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SETI has made ET contact
video.google.com — "On May 9, 2006 in Toronto, Steven M. Greer said that SETI had made contact with extraterrestrials, and that the signals were being jammed by either the NSA or NRO." Check out http://www.disclosureproject.org for more info.
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- sungam3D, on 10/12/2007, -375/+26Ohh no wait sorry, it was just dust on the lens.
- peregrine, on 10/12/2007, -33/+164OKay sir your intelligence shines here. The seti project is radio signals. NOT lens.
and personally I wouldn't doubt this....it was only a matter of time till they did make contact with someone. Whats very interesting is that is being jammed...but why? :) - daveddd, on 10/12/2007, -18/+55http://www.disclosureproject.org
- r0ck3tm4nn, on 10/12/2007, -63/+36This is the kind of stuff that my crazy sister-in-law's uncle talks about. Break out the tin foil hats...
- Cyrusman, on 10/12/2007, -43/+25The government is listening just as much as the people in the SETI project. They're probably trying to prevent some sort of mass hysteria caused by alien contact.
- imperium2000, on 10/12/2007, -21/+209What a load of crap. SETI is a private scientific community. If they had found something, they would've announced it.
- BevansDesign, on 10/12/2007, -7/+142I think Mythbusters (or something similar) found that wearing a tinfoil hat will actually AMPLIFY, not block, electronic (ie: brain control!) signals.
- wabbiteh, on 10/12/2007, -16/+54Question: how would they jam the radio signals? Put a satellite directly over every radio satellite, following where they point all the time, and beam down radio signals of the correct frequency to mask an alien signal...? Seems a little far-fetched, unless I'm missing some much simpler method of interfering with radio telescopes. : /
And I believe it was some MIT students who figured out that tinfoil hats amplify many signals. - sanman, on 10/12/2007, -30/+81ROFL, it shows what the quality of diggers is, when they're all giving +diggs to conspiracy theorists, and digging down the skeptics.
Just remember, controlled nuclear fusion power has already been discovered and harnessed, but it's just a secret govt conspiracy that's keeping it away from the public. ;P - stoops, on 10/12/2007, -24/+63The aliens are probably just trying to tune into Apple's next conference feed in 2007. Nothing to see here folks, please move on...
- Bartman818, on 10/12/2007, -2/+39Quote from the video: "I'm not going to give the name (of the source) yet because we're trying to coax this guy out of the closet."
- node3, on 10/12/2007, -10/+77Steven Greer is a nutjob (the polite way of saying "charlatan") who has absolutely nothing to do with SETI.
The only people who should listen to him are psychiatrists. - baxtermaddux, on 10/12/2007, -23/+16"controlled nuclear fusion"
its true. some kid made a working Fusion reactor in his parents basement..... - podcoder, on 10/12/2007, -44/+31I, for one, welcome our alien overlords
- siodine, on 10/12/2007, -1/+30I remember seeing a documentary on the SETI project, and they specifically said that if they found evidence of alien life, no government would be able to censor them due to the way their organization is built.
- raphKoster, on 10/12/2007, -22/+3oh you STUPID SON OF A BITCH.
- arkmtech, on 10/12/2007, -11/+28@ "the aliens have been downloading Metallica mp3's and the RIAA is now jamming their signal"
No ***** metal-rock for Xenu! OH NOES!! - harrygibus, on 10/12/2007, -5/+44Bartman818-Quote from the video: "I'm not going to give the name (of the source) yet because we're trying to coax this guy out of the closet."
So this means Tom Cruise works for SETI? - sockpuppets, on 10/12/2007, -3/+37Quote from the video: "I'm not going to give the name (of the source) yet because we're trying to coax this guy out of the closet."
I had no idea Tom Cruise joined SETI. This explains everything- they've made contact with Xenu. - MiddleGirth, on 10/12/2007, -12/+5Nuts.
- WestDC, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13I think it's time to put paper bags on our heads and lie down.
- dukrous, on 10/12/2007, -11/+31Does the term "biggest crock of ***** I've heard all day" mean anything? Buried as inaccurate.
- Tiak, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19As stupid as that comment was, it seems like that's more or less the equivelant to what probably occured...
He happened to be talking to someone from SETI who said they found a couple signals they thought could be extra terestrial with no confirmations as of yet, but it was frustrating because they couldn't be confirmed because some of their antenas in alternate locations were "being jammed" (i.e. some other radio signal bounces off the ionosphere consistantly covering that patch of sky and spectrum)... If they could only find a signal in one location, they can't prove it isn't coming from earth. That or they have found "extra terrestrial" signals, which only means that radio signals that don't come from earth... But these signals only consist of noise and are probably caused by some astronomical phenominon.
Chances are though, they really have found some sources that COULD POSSIBLY be extraterestrial signals, and really are being "jammed" though probably unintentionally. - MiddleGirth, on 10/12/2007, -23/+4podcoder said "I, for one, welcome our alien overlords"
You know what makes that even more funny? When it's not used in every thread. I, for one, welcome our bury button overlords. - asteron, on 10/12/2007, -3/+20When the presenter disclosed the reception of an extra terrestrial signal I was expecting to hear gasps or some commotion from his audience. And yet everyone was quiet, as if they heard this stuff frequently.
A light went off and I realized I was listening to a nutbag talking to other nutbags.... and I felt shame. - aragami, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4controlled nuclear fusion is nothing special, its getting more energy than you put in that is the difficult part as only then will it be a viable power source :p
- diggthisman, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1@sanman
it just means most diggers are educated and intelligent people. - maj0rm0j0, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3All your signal are belong to us.
- fauxXenophanes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Why do the nut-jobs always have to be old, white guys? We need a new "conspiracy" demographic.
- peregrine, on 10/12/2007, -33/+164OKay sir your intelligence shines here. The seti project is radio signals. NOT lens.
- Artifez, on 10/12/2007, -5/+28If true it would be the stupidest conspiracy ever, while also being the best by the sheer size of it.
- nogami, on 10/12/2007, -30/+105The US government can't even win a war in a 3rd world country - what makes anyone think they're even remotely capable of blocking signals from extraterrestrials...?
N. - KayinNasaki, on 10/12/2007, -8/+31Cleary the only reason we're losing is that it's an intentional, sinister plot by George Bush. Clearly you underestimate the might of our tyrannical government!
........... - JimXugle, on 10/12/2007, -27/+13@nogami
because radio signals aren't trying to kill each other based upon their frequency or kill our servicemen and then shout "BOOM HEADSHOT IN THE NAME OF ALLAH!!"
Sure... Iraq didn't go as planned... but if the Iraqis would stop blowing each other up, we could actually get something done. - gardnert1, on 10/12/2007, -6/+15"The US government can't even win a war in a 3rd world country - what makes anyone think they're even remotely capable of blocking signals from extraterrestrials...?"
Well its not a war the government is trying to win. They are trying to force a certain very western mindset on people and the people are naturally resisting. The problem is that they are ironically trying to do that in a relatively nice manner and with combat troops. They will never succeed. Blocking signals... not as tough for the government. I'll believe this theory when they can prove it. - maiku00, on 10/12/2007, -7/+10why would they want to "win" and have this war over with? do you have any idea how much money the people who are sitting at the tops of this administration are making off of this conflict? they are profiting enormously.
- Tiak, on 10/12/2007, -8/+18Erm... For the record, at least before we invaded, Iraq was a first world country...
- broomett, on 10/12/2007, -12/+4gardner...oh...my...god...tell me you are not still holding onto the fact that the people fighting the US in Iraq are your average every day Iraqis just trying to "resist" the evil US government.
I mean, there is NO WAY you could be that stupid and still know how to breathe oxygen.
Tiak...Iraq has not been anything CLOSE to a first world country since the Iran war. - t0mmmmmmm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2poor JimXugle, stop the civil war in iraq so that we can win hah!
- cptn_cardboard, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Theres only one thing to do...
...kill paul allen. - klaymen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@nogami
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- nogami, on 10/12/2007, -30/+105The US government can't even win a war in a 3rd world country - what makes anyone think they're even remotely capable of blocking signals from extraterrestrials...?
- fluffypancake, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16I'm ready:
http://zapatopi.net/afdb/- Thex1138, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Helmets of the gods...tin foil hats
- bjtitus, on 10/12/2007, -4/+67SETI has said multiple times that there is no way that the information could get "jammed" by governmental interference. There data is spread around the world and analyzed by multiple sources multiple times. There's no way the government could track down all this info and keep everyone quiet. It's not like in the movies where one guy is sitting there and hears the sound, the signal is analyzed all over the place and then the data is sent to multiple databases to be analyzed by scientists, who THEN make the call and publish their findings so that the larger community can debate.
- Miyazaki, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15And by movies, you mean Contact and The Arrival?
- SkeletaLlama, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18I think they're saying the interference is with the signals, not with the disclosure of the information. It still doesn't make sense why SETI wouldn't just come out and show the information they have to the scientific community and the public at large unless they doubted the authenticity of their findings and wanted to avoid another WOW! signal fiasco. Having two false alarms would really turn the public off of the SETI program and funding might get cut.
We just need more info on this. There's not enough to go on here about the nature of the "contact" or the "interference". - Konrad9, on 10/12/2007, -7/+3I think the most potential for problems lies in the person who makes contact.
Personally it'd be the most difficult decision of my life, to inform the world or not. Would the world fall into chaos, or unite ala First Contact? - Phatt138, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I agree that there's not enough here to make any judgement besides one of extreme skepticism.
Nevertheless, I can think of at leadt one reason why SETI wouldn't have come out with said information: simply put, it'd be the biggest news EVER, and if they had recieved multiple contacts but been unable to confirm everything about them, they (like any good researcher) might hold off on actually disseminating the discovery.
After all, what if they found something that seemed communicative and structured, but had a natural explanation? Pulsars (neutron stars) anyone? From Wikipedia:
"When pulsars were first discovered, the fast time scale of pulses (about 1 s, uncommon to astronomy in the 1960s) was half-seriously considered to be caused by extraterrestrial intelligence, later jokingly referred to as LGM-1, for "Little Green Men." The discovery of many pulsars, spread all over the sky with different rotation periods quickly excluded this option."
The last thing that researchers at SETI (who already have enough trouble with funding and public relations) would want is to jump the gun on extraterrestrial intelligence.
I still think this is probably nonsense, but it's not so inconceivable that, HAD they discovered some signals but been unable to confirm origin or content, you wouldn't have heard about them. - StarCrusher, on 10/12/2007, -7/+5"And by movies, you mean Contact and The Arrival?"
Not to mention "Debby does SETI". - djlosch, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2Debbie Does SETI is a little too tame though... this is more like Backdoor Sluts 9: SETI Takes Two
- bjtitus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@ Phatt
That's true, but the video specifically says a government agency is holding up progress on releasing the signals.
- SkeletaLlama, on 10/12/2007, -2/+63This is a hoax, right? There's just no way this is real and it's slipped under the media's radar since the middle of November. This would be the biggest story in human history if true.
- bluemeep, on 10/12/2007, -5/+67Aliens? A big story? Pshaw! We're much more interested in Britney's rapid-fire cooter exposures than anything like *that*.
- Kniggit, on 10/12/2007, -7/+16Conspiracy is the religion of the paranoid. All of this "jamming" nonsense is just part of that paranoia. THAT is why you won't see this in the mainstream media.
- floodyberry, on 10/12/2007, -2/+83http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_M._Greer
"According to a 2003 interview with Steven Greer by Paula Peterson, Greer saw his first UFO in 1963 and has since learnt how to make contact with alien space crafts. He says that a spiritual level of consciousness is required to make the inter-dimensional contact with extraterrestrials." - SkeletaLlama, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8They didn't say the interference was intentional or a part of a conspiracy. It's possible the "interference", assuming it exists at all, could be unintentional. The military tests technologies all the time that have unintended consequences. Think of the Navy's sonar signals that caused whales and dolphins to beach themselves and die a few years back. That wasn't a conspiracy, it was an accident.
- Calypsoaf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7By "Since the middle of November", you of course mean "Since the beginning of May" when the conference in this link actually took place?
- treelovinhippie, on 10/12/2007, -9/+6Well just say we did have solid 99.9% proof that we had evidence of ET signals... and thus almost certain that life existed elsewhere (which is most definitely true considering the probabilities). What people would want to disclose this information from the greater public? ... for starters all the world's governments (esp military) and also any religious person in the world (as proof of aliens basically reduces the credibility of religious texts to less than nothing).
But yeah I think in this case it's just coming down to uncertainty about the signal. As there are many different cosmic bodies (planets, stars etc) that emit their own EMR and signals often at regular intervals making the message appear to have come from an intelligent source. - captjc, on 10/12/2007, -4/+44@treelovinhippie
"as proof of aliens basically reduces the credibility of religious texts to less than nothing"
Please, Aliens know that the Judeo-Christian-Islamic God is the one true god. Why do you think Aliens visit earth? Earth is the Holy Land of the galaxy. Jerusalem is the Holy land of Earth. Therefore, it is the holiest point in the Universe. We know it. The Gelgameks know it. The Joozians know it. The Answer to the old question "What does God need with a Starship" is to make sure the REST of the universe knows it as well.
Onward valiant leader. God not only wants you to spread freedom to the middle east, Jesus wants you to spread it to the universe. It only takes one letter to liberate E from T. That is W.
/ Hopefully it is not necessary to say the above is satire.
// I have no idea what "to liberate E from T" means, but it sounds Republican. - Konrad9, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3But it's still a valid question... what *does* God need with a spaceship?
I always thought it was the photon ***** torpedos. - GoatJuggler, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@captjc
You need to either adopt me quick or meet me someplace for a drink. Best comment I've seen around here. Cheers! - catdriver, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2@captjc
Wrong! No human or god can match Nature's simultaneous 4 day rotation in 1 Earth rotation. No human has a right to believe wrong - for that would be evil thinking. Ignorance of 4 days is evil, Evil educators teach 1 day. 1 day will destroy humans.
Singularity god is EVIL as Creation reigns as Opposites. Educators, and You - ought to be killed for ignoring the fact that "Earth is Cubed". (ignored and suppressed by EVIL educators) NASA's Moon Landing was far less of an achievement than Time Cube discovery, for I have Cubed the Earth, with 4 simultaneous corner days in 1 rotation of Earth. (singularity belief scientist can't comprehend T.O.E.)
God SINGULARITY and the academic taught singularity constitute great evils in the Cubic World of Opposites - Opposites hemispheres and Opposite sexes of humanity. The Universe is composed of Opposites - existing only as Opposites - with a zero value existence - cancelling to nothing as a singularity.
/ So there... ;) - KingMoses, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"According to a 2003 interview with Steven Greer by Paula Peterson, Greer saw his first UFO in 1963 and has since learnt how to make contact with alien space crafts. He says that a spiritual level of consciousness is required to make the inter-dimensional contact with extraterrestrials."
1963. That's telling. - captjc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1time cube lol...still funny
- Dantetheinferno, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17If aliens do exist, i wonder what they'd think of all the crap (Radio waves, Television waves, WiFI, etc.) we broadcast out into space?
- jcapogna, on 10/12/2007, -5/+17They probably think its gibberish since they don't know how to decode it.
- extratired, on 10/12/2007, -2/+91wifi? in space? I'm 2 stories above my router and I can't even get a decent signal!
- SkeletaLlama, on 10/12/2007, -3/+29They're probably wondering if QVC delivers to Alpha Centauri. They saw a great sterling silver bracelet for their girlfriend the other night after that informercial about the Ab Lounge.
- treelovinhippie, on 10/12/2007, -4/+46I bet they've given up watching LOST. Stars will form and die before that series finishes.
- DarthNuts, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Ummmm, they wouldn't have received Lost yet, since the nearest star is 4.3 light years away. They are probably watching "Malcom in the Middle" I think the little brother on that show was an alien.
- adml_shake, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13"wifi? in space? I'm 2 stories above my router and I can't even get a decent signal!"
Their freaken aliens man....I'm sure they have some sort of giant ass pringles can-tenna... - MajinZero, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14They're upset that the broadcast of Single Female Lawyer cut out.
- rbanffy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2@jcapogna,
Once you notice the analog signals fall into a specific timing pattern (as analog TVs do), the rest is pretty easy to decode.
As for digital TV or radio, well, that would be far harder. Still, Earth being such a bright radiation source on the FM spectrum certainly indicates there is something funny going on in that rocky planet with an oxygen-rich atmosphere.
And, with adequate radio-telescopes, one could see it clearly from, say, 50 light-years now. - klaymen, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1@rbanffy
i didn't know radio waves traveled as fast as light.
but then again, i have no idea how a radi-telescope works, so i could be an idiot - Figs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@Klaymen
Radio waves _are_ light.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_radiation
- r0ck3tm4nn, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Wait, wasn't the prospect of contact with intelligent life via radio signals thrown out the window due to digital compression? I mean, the assumption is if an extraterrestrial civilization was as advanced as us, they would be compressing their radio communications digitally. Digital signals are impossible to decipher from background noise.
- Pandorr, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12Heres an even more important point, rocket,
Who's to say that even if they ARE "aliens" that they have developed just as we have?
It's possible they have completely different types of technology that are either equal to, less than, or greater than our own?
You assume that the aliens are using the same means of deep space communication as us, which could be false, then again, I myself could be false.
What i'm trying to say is :
We're attempting communication through our own means
It's possible that other life forms have done the same, but their own means, we just can't decipher it, meaning that there are two distinct forms of communication. Then again, that's just how It hink. - bob645, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Even though it is digital and compressed, wirless transmissions AFAIK always are carried on an analog radio wave.
The carrier is probably the only thing that would survive such a long distance, very little content would be there. - imperium2000, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14SETI is trying to detect artificial signals in the background radio noise, not communicate with ET. If they detect an artificial source then they may attempt to decode it.
- foolfromhell, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6"It's possible they have completely different types of technology that are either equal to, less than, or greater than our own?"
Radio is part of the electromagnetic spectrum.
Any alien civilization as advanced as us or even more advanced would have used radio for communication at some point or another. - rhinopig, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4I thought recently 'they' 'decided' (realized) that any alien civilization more advanced than us would be using visible light or higher frequency EM waves. Radio waves are just a stepping stone to denser bandwidth waves. Sure radio waves would be a stage they passed through, but for how long? 50 years? maybe a few hundred tops? and what are the chances that the range of time they where using radio waves falls in the range of light years in distance they are from us? My guess would be not very good.
- Pandorr, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1"Radio is part of the electromagnetic spectrum.
Any alien civilization as advanced as us or even more advanced would have used radio for communication at some point or another."
That is true, but I have to edit what you said to this:
Radio is part of OUR electromagnetic spectrum
We have technology, but it isn't perfect technology. There can be even more to the spectrum that we may not realize.
The point I'm trying to make is that there is a chance they don't use the technology that we do. How likely is it that on another world, you see a completely different alien race with an am/fm alarm clock?
Just consider this as one thing:
Just because we developed one way, does not mean all species do as well. - foolfromhell, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2We have tested the electromagnetic spectrum.
We know the different ranges, and so far, only radio is viable for long-range communication.
Any civilization, even alien, would use radio at some point or another, so its not a matter of technology, its a matter of language, and decoding.
We could never pickup radio transmissions from aliens AND decode them without a reference, and so far, radio is the only method for searching for ET life forms, so we use it.
Also, someone theorized when talking about the Drake Equation that most civilizations would not go much farther than our level of technology because of weapons capable of destroying worlds. So, the chance that an alien civilization we meet will use radio is high.
- Pandorr, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12Heres an even more important point, rocket,
- Mossman85, on 10/12/2007, -44/+4i had seti software on my pc. it was lame.
- m1ss1ontomars, on 10/12/2007, -4/+22no; i think you're lame.
- Calypsoaf, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18I always considered Folding@Home to be a better allocation of my extra processing power.
- Dugg2Death, on 10/12/2007, -11/+14Wow, we need an article is total ***** button. If this were true.. can you say "breaking news" on CNN within... hum... 30 minutes.
- Abatrour, on 10/12/2007, -7/+25CNN is a joke now.
- Horseshoe, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10look at whats passed off as news lately?
- ngc1976, on 10/12/2007, -8/+5I doubt anything would happen.
Even if Bush spent the next state of the union address saying that he and his government caused the 9-11 attacks, are bringing back the draft and are hiding aliens in Mt. Rushmore nothing more than protests and a few riots would end up happening. - diggthisman, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2@ngc1976
yeah, because no one believe what george ******* bush says anymore
- AegisGFX, on 10/12/2007, -39/+5It would be the most boring ***** in human history.... is more like it
There is no intelligent life on earth, I have said this repeatedly in the past. But lets say we do find a signal thats 1 million light years away, that means the people who sent it were extinct about 900,000 years ago!
This is a pointless endeavor, waste of money/time/effort. The government doesn't have to cover this one up because its *****.- imperium2000, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16Right. Discovering an intelligent lifeform that developed 900,000 years ago AND developed radio technology is really lame. (sarcasm)
- SkeletaLlama, on 10/12/2007, -7/+25Just because there's no intelligent life in your home, doesn't mean the rest of the world doesn't have any. You're an ***** and I'm glad pricks like you aren't in charge of science funding in America... oh wait...
- bdrydyk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13In other news, science has proven that people who repeatedly say things like "there is no intelligent life on earth" are much less clever than they think they are.
- AegisGFX, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2-33 diggs proves my belief that denial aint just a river in Egypt. All you people are idiots and you prove it every time you refuse to admit it.
- Calypsoaf, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14This is great, unfortunatly until there is proof from SETI itself, this will be treated (and should be treated) as nothing more hearsay.
- flamingmb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Why isnt this in the videos section.
- zephc, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Because the Videos section doesn't get nearly as much posting and viewership than the front page does (at least that's been my own usage experience)
- TortfeasorTO, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13What utter, unadulterated, unmitigated ***** this is. Not that it wouldn't be terrific if true. But what utter nonsense.
- subtle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13Steven, this is your mother. I want you to stop watching X Files reruns and take up origami or knitting or something, mkay. Hugs and kisses.
- Narpas, on 10/12/2007, -0/+54I hate to be the guy who just cries, "burried! title inaccurate!" so I'll give the full explanation.
When I saw this, I didn't think to click the link. I just put seti.org into my address bar asap. I kinda figured a headline like, "Holy *****. A computer at the University of Kentucky's CS department got a positive read." I got, "How Much Does SETI Require Robots? by Adrian Brown". Confused and disappointed, I checked the actual link. It's a buncha conspiracy nuts who think it's their duty to make big announcements for other organizations.
And that's why I bury. - cybersnafu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7I feel sorry for the poor bugger sitting at the table. He seems so lonely. :(
- adolfojp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I want to believe.
No, really, I do! - enemyofstate430, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Um, may I be the first to say who the ***** is this guy? I guess some people know, but as far as I'm concerned, it might as well be Art Bell talking.
But seriously though, I heard from someone real high up in the government that this is true too! I'm not gonna name names, but it was someone who works in the Oval Office and his name starts with a B and ends with a...go to www.sendmeyourmoneyandi'llgiveyouabridge.com for more information.....we take Visa, Mastercard, and Vepscitron (if you're a member of the Grey race and use galactic credits). - zapped33, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1This isn't the first time SETI has claimed to have a possible ET signal:
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn6341- wabbiteh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12Except that time, it was SETI stating that there was a strange reading from a telescope, and that there is a very small chance that it could be an alien radio signal.
This time, it's a bunch of conspiracy nuts, including a man who states he can communicate with alien space ships, stating that they found alien signals and the government is trying to hush them up. - angryredplanet, on 10/12/2007, -6/+9@wabbiteh
"Except that time, it was SETI stating that there was a strange reading from a telescope, and that there is a very small chance that it could be an alien radio signal."
And this was confirmed or refuted?
"This time, it's a bunch of conspiracy nuts, including a man who states he can communicate with alien space ships, stating that they found alien signals and the government is trying to hush them up."
If you think the US government tells you about everything it knows about ETs and other advanced (ET?) technology it possibly has buried deep within it's black ops arsenal, then - with all due respect - who's the nut? I think there's little doubt that the Roswell incident - 50+ years ago - was a botched cover-up by the government. To think that it was the only time we have been visited is really quite improbable. I'll concede that S.G.'s treatment of, perhaps under-investigated facts lends itself to criticism but at the end of the day, the question I ask about him is what would he have to gain by sticking his neck so far out on the chopping block? Some evidence would help him with credibility in this case though.
I personally think we have been and continue to be visited. It's like any territorial dispute, knowing your opponent puts you in better stead for any potential confrontation, and to say that we are the only species in the universe posessing *OUR* level of technology or better is both arrogant and ignorant. If we could do recon missions to other life-harbouring star systems, I dare say we would do it. Our problem is we are each others' enemy, and so don't pose as much a threat to any ET species to the same extend we do ourselves - that's laughable.
We really should start thinking as a universal species, not just a global one. - escheriv, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6@angryredplanet
I'm so torn about what to do with your response. You're a conspiracy theorist (albeit an articulate one), and I want to dismiss almost everything you had to say. However, I get to the end and I can't help but agree one hundreed percent with "We really should start thinking as a universal species, not just a global one."
So, despite rambling paragraphs about government cover-ups and Roswell, digg up for you, sir. - angryredplanet, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@escheriv
As much as I dislike the lable "conspiracy theorist" I fall neatly into that box as you coin it. I don't think we are being told the whole truth - the only thing we ever hear from government is that which helps them look good and get re-elected. If you choose to believe that you know as much as there is to know then, as much as I want to ask you to take a step back and look at the bigger picture, that's fine with me too.
"The only thing it takes for Evil to triumph is a few good men to do nothing" - Edmund Burke
- wabbiteh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12Except that time, it was SETI stating that there was a strange reading from a telescope, and that there is a very small chance that it could be an alien radio signal.
- xshaisu, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1Pics or it didn't happen.
- Cyrusman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8http://yipyipyip.ytmnd.com/
- mercurysquad, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Stop digging it, this is nonsense. I know people wish this were true, but it's not until it is confirmed by a reputable source. And even if true, all it means is that they have "received" signals from an ET source.
And that statement sounds very ridiculous to say the least. - neom, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11Isn't Steven Greer the same man that said KFC secretly put mind control devices in our chicken?
- captjc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I thought that was an old Scottish man who looked strangely like Mike Meyers...
/"Oh I hated the Colonel with his wee beady eyes and that smug look on his face. 'Oh, you're gonna buy my chicken oooh'" - computerdude33, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3The Colonel told me to digg you down.
MUST RESIST
- captjc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I thought that was an old Scottish man who looked strangely like Mike Meyers...
- michaelb1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Diggers listen. It was my computer that actually decoded the signal that lead to the discovery of life on other planets.
I know this because there was a trail of Reese's Pieces from my computer to the shed out back. - spartan777, on 10/12/2007, -9/+2haha. more hippies with conspiracy theories. back to smoking the pipes at SETI I see.
- kurrupt96, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Color me cynical, but I would at least expect the SETI webpage to have a full length disclosure of this. Dugg down.
- foxymcfox, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Can I mark this as inaccurate AND lame? No? Just inaccurate then.
- Mihai12345, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2And don't forget wrong topic. It should be in the video section.
- dpatrickb, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I'm betting Steven made a mistake and it was actually Santa Clause.
- kmk2006, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Rightttt...
- Mysk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11Unfortunately this guy is full of it. He began making these claims on Coast To Coast AM, who then had the SETI folks on the show to confirm or deny these claims. They denied them and were very confused about the claims.
Last I read SETI is damn near broke, as in they may have to shut down SETI@Home some time early 2007. They would love nothing more than for this to be true because then the donations would be rolling in. Heck, even something like the "wow signal" would be good for them at this point, let alone knowledge of actual contact.
This is no different than me saying that I _KNOW_ that Digg is going to sell to Yahoo because some "high level person" at Digg has told me so, but he can't get the message out on his own and I can't tell you who it is. It's BS.
I would love for this to be true just as SETI would very much like for it to be true. It just ain't happening. :-/- OsakaWilson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4To make the comparison complete, you'd have to sell videos about it on your website.
- sifr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0SETI and SETI@Home are two separate projects.
One is real-time, dedicated sky observation run by the organization out of Mountain View, CA that used to receive Congressional funding. The other is non-realtime sky-observation piggybacked on various other projects at Arecibo, run by some folks out of UC Berkeley.
- zephc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I *wish*... but as the saying goes: wish in one hand and ***** in the other, and see which fills up faster.
- Voxxov, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Now, I'm all for believing, but communication with any civilization outside of our solar system (I'm just assuming they are) would be effectively impossible. RF communication (and any and all EM signals) travel at the speed of light, and if I'm not mistaken, the closest solar system is some 4 light years away... making getting a reply taking a minimum of 8 years. Maybe we're getting signals, but theres no way we're talking!
(Now I'd love to hear about some crazy faster-then-light "subspace" communication or something... that would kick ass....) - JimXugle, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Raw data and a digital signature from SETI or it didn't happen!
- jeffbarnett513, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7It's being jammed by the NSA or NRO? We must have some intense jamming equipment to degrade a signal from reaching anywhere on planet earth as it rotates and revolves. The logistics of a claim like that are preposterous.
- Shorties, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Thes seem fake... maybe part of the Transformers Viral Campaign.
- neom, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Ah yes, I forgot about the commonly accepted and well known fact that anything out of the ordinary posted on the internet these days has to be part of either a) a Viral Marketing Campaign or b) an ARG.
:|
- neom, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Ah yes, I forgot about the commonly accepted and well known fact that anything out of the ordinary posted on the internet these days has to be part of either a) a Viral Marketing Campaign or b) an ARG.
- nurvus, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3They've also spotted Elvis..
- kmk2006, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3and 2pac
- WhyTwoKay, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1And Santa
- InfinitySnatch, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0This is fake. I can tell from the pixels and from hearing a lot of radiowaves in my time.
- daweyo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1A note to sanman... actually they have controlled nuclear fission, a kid even did it in his garage....currently it just takes more energy to create it than the total energy harnessed. Think before you speak, or just speak facts you can back up.
- cprincipe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Me
they chose me
And I didn't even graduate from @#&*ing high school. - abaddono1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1How does junk like this get on the front page? Seriously folks.
- dorkino, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Sounds like the SETI project was facing funding cuts or shutdown altogether. Kind of like how we "find" and "kill" supposed terrorists from time to time to make it look like what we're doing is actually fruitful and necessary. Why can't we find Osama? Because then we'd have to put away our toys.
- osearth, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2it should be said that it's not hard to jam the signal.
that's not to say i beleive anything coming from Toronto. but it might be one of the best area's for aliens to contact. not sure why .. - grinin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Its rather naive and ignorant to think that we are the one freak accident in the universe of infinite space and time..... no?
- victor85, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I wanted to heaer the aliens too...Marry Christmas.
- crashflow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_M._Greer
ufologist, not the kind of guy I'd take seriously, ufologists are one of the main reasons SETI gets all kinds of flack.
if SETI finds ET, SETI will tell us they found ET. - spanner, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3You tube version
http://youtube.com/watch?v=WuXW3WugGxA - neeyo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7I love how it's "WE FOUND ET WE KNOW IT BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE TRUE BUT NOW ITS BEING JAMMED!" and not that the original signal was a fluke due to interference and now that the interference is gone... no signal.. OH IT HAS TO BE THE NSA AND CIA AND KGB WORKING TO GET MEH!!! Big deal.
Gratuitous movie quote: "The radar's been jammed" "RASPBERRY! Only LONESTAR has the balls to give me the raspberry!"- burkay, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1you will soon be dugg down, but I just wanted you to know that I am with you :)
- tfaz1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Windows Media Player required to view video on disclosureproject.org...? Clearly no intelligent life there.
- burkay, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"Prepare your defenses you puny earthlings! We are coming at the speed of light to demolish your civilization!"
- bennyboy371, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Aliens? Wouldn't surprise me.
Government conspiracy about it? Wouldn't surprise me.
This situation? Load of *****. - RedXlll, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I can't say that there is or isn't some advanced species out there, but when looking out into space it's just infinite and mysterious, and you can't help but wonder the possibilities. I do believe that something like this would be shunned and muted, even it there is clear evidence. The government would first(if not knowing already) put it through vast testing and try to validate whether it's false or not, then draw out plans in which they can manipulate the situation and use it to some sort of advantage. Then, depending on their intentions in using this contact they would decide whether or not to keep it secret or confirm the information to the people, which of course would be carefully planned out as not to be alarming to the people.
Something like this is truly a powerful statement and it would be something that would change history forever if it were to be true. It's not likely that a bunch of idiot nobodies would be the ones to announce such information, as they have a great potential of being wrong and held with dire skepticism.
...Just a few thoughts... -
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