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- ranon78, on 11/14/2008, -6/+23I think that it's a shame that Google does not have high resolution pics of India. If this can improve this, it has my support.
- stutimandal, on 11/15/2008, -3/+18To all the armchair experts ...
ISRO has earned more than $1 BN in past projects for itself. When ISRO develops technology it manages to sell it (and not as ammunition/warfare but as technology). ISRO's launching pad has been used by European satellites in the past. When ISRO earns money from past projects, it SHOULD invest this money into future projects.
It is not ISRO's job to fix roads and sanitation in India. Municipal bodies exist for that and if they are corrupt, that does not brings responsibility to ISRO. For example, NASA does not builds roads and drains in US. NASA exists for a different purpose. Similarly ISRO exists for space and satellite missions. As long as it is earning enough money, let them do their work.
On a different note -- Kudos to scientists for thinking an ambitious project which is beyond what others (on earth) have done. - inactive, on 11/15/2008, -2/+14then so should america, russia and every other space-faring nation.
actually, let's all stop drinking good wine until every last starving child on earth has been fed and given a college education.
***** idiot. - prabjot, on 11/14/2008, -15/+27Dugg for India :) !
- indraneel24, on 11/15/2008, -3/+14Well, in a little over 60 years, they've risen from a British colony to a world power.
That's pretty good, imo. - virtualonliner, on 11/16/2008, -1/+12Every country has problems. US has lot of problems too, like health care, homelessness and all. That does not, and should not, stop anyone from doing more advanced research, especially in science. And what does the term "fix" really mean? It assumes some acceptable level of solutions. If we wait till everything is "fixed" it will be too late. There are lot of reason India should do it before they "fix" the usual problems that are cited. Here are my guesses.
There are side effect benefits for lot of space tech (Just an outrageous example, think of Temper-pedic).
India can actually make money by doing this. In this mission alone, they are carrying payload from other countries. They can launch satellites for other countries. They can sell satellite data. All this money can be used to "fix" the usual problems.
Note: I am Indian and proud to be so. - sanman, on 11/15/2008, -2/+13http://www.sundayherald.com/international/shintern ...
"Last year, India's satellite launches brought in more than $500m in revenue, about 75% of that from foreign clients."
Not bad, considering their low operating budget relative to everyone else. This lunar mission was only $78.9M (USD), and even that was the total cost of 10 years of work, including $40M spent on building large dish-antenna ground stations for ISTRAC and DSN, which will be used on future missions. So a future Indian mission to Mars would cost even less than this mission to the Moon. - poogy21, on 11/15/2008, -1/+12Let's see if they off-shore their development to the U.S.!!
- FaithclubDotNet, on 11/15/2008, -4/+15Google Moon
- prashantpawar, on 11/15/2008, -0/+11And the last time you went to India was??
Back in early 1990s, Americans used to ask Indians whether they send their kids to school by hanging them on one side of the row of trees and letting them swing through from one branch to other branch like in Jungle Book. - NarutoRamen, on 11/15/2008, -2/+12Yeah, because America, England, Japan and other Developed nations don't have ***** up roads, currupt governments, homelessness and other issues.
Wise people say if you don't know something....then shut the ***** up. - brianpeiris, on 11/15/2008, -1/+11I suspect the ISRO (Indian Space Research Organization) budget is peanuts compared to the Indian government's other expenses, just like NASA's budget compared the US government's.
To be honest, I don't know if these stats are meaningful but I think it helps make my point:
ISRO Budget: $1.3 billion
Indian GDP: $2.965 trillion
Ratio: 0.000438
NASA Budget: $17.3 billion
US GDP: $14.334 trillion
Ratio: 0.00121
(Sourced from Wikipedia) - inactive, on 11/15/2008, -3/+12Why? Space research is a lot more important than whether or not some dirt road connecting two podunk villages in central India has too many potholes
- Uddhav, on 11/15/2008, -1/+10Don't talk out of your ass! The space organization earned $500m in revenues(1), out of which 75% came from abroad. If armchair critics like you run India, I doubt that India will be able to progress.
(1) http://www.sundayherald.com/international/shintern ... - dartmanx, on 11/14/2008, -11/+19We need a United Nations space agency for stuff like this. All of the astronauts could wear blue helmets, we could dump massive amounts of money into it for very little results, we would elect an agency head based on bribery, and all of the charter members could sit around passing resolutions against Isreal's space agency while accomplishing little else.
- inactive, on 11/15/2008, -0/+8Just most of the 1st world nations. :-)
But I agree, space programs are an asset for economies. - mycoplasma, on 11/15/2008, -0/+7"But critics argue that India should address the poverty at home before competing with space leaders including China and Japan."
And all these years I thought USA and Russia were the space leaders... - jayvisaria, on 11/15/2008, -1/+8India is actually making a ton of moolah with its super cost-effective commercial space program. That money will end up helping the infrastructure development in the country. As far as the government goes, how many countries have actually fixed theirs?
- sachingarg, on 11/15/2008, -0/+6I dont believe this is waste. It is a future investment. When you have technology people respect you. Example 123 agreement(nuclear deal). If we had not got the n-bomb would US had signed the agreement with us. They would have forced us to sign the CTBT.
- brianpeiris, on 11/16/2008, -0/+6repeating my reply to nurbsenvi below:
I suspect the ISRO (Indian Space Research Organization) budget is peanuts compared to the Indian government's other expenses, just like NASA's budget compared the US government's.
To be honest, I don't know if these stats are meaningful but I think it helps make my point:
ISRO Budget: $1.3 billion
Indian GDP: $2.965 trillion
Ratio: 0.000438
NASA Budget: $17.3 billion
US GDP: $14.334 trillion
Ratio: 0.00121
(Sourced from Wikipedia) - amolhshah, on 11/14/2008, -13/+19dugg for India and dugg for science
- BossKey, on 11/15/2008, -0/+5Yeah, technology couldn't possibly help in those areas, so they should ignore advanced technology...
- newman8r, on 11/15/2008, -2/+7The article says India has 'conquered the moon' but that's pretty much bs... they sent an unmanned probe. The US has sent many unmanned probes to mars but I wouldn't say that the US has 'conquered mars'
- mycoplasma, on 11/15/2008, -0/+4Can dirt roads even get pot holes?
- ashwinmudigonda, on 11/15/2008, -2/+6Considering India's gnarly and congested roads in big cities (and the lack of any in the rural areas), there won't be any turn by turn navigation systems in the near (or distant future). However, such detailed maps will have obvious benefits for infrastructure development, etc. And if the turnaround time from satellite launch to complete hi-res maps is only a few months, I can see how it can be used to monitor progress (or the lack of it) in important areas like rural infrastructure development, highways development, etc. Of course, this might also pave the way for location aware information technology. Exciting times for Indians!
- frieddonuts, on 11/15/2008, -3/+7I'm conflicted...digg for science or bury for Daily Fail?
- WNW3, on 11/15/2008, -0/+4Nah, big jungle. See Indy Jones and the Temple of Doom.
- ortucis, on 11/16/2008, -0/+4Usually those 'critics', aka, Chinese media are busy spreading ***** about these missions from Day-1 (they even said it was a failure few days ago).
- protodon, on 11/15/2008, -0/+4That seems kind of backwards
- TheHim, on 11/16/2008, -1/+5Time for India to thrive. The Indians i've met so far are exceptionally well behaved and educated people - the locals here could learn a thing. This gives me hope they can build up an exceptional modern country.
- palehorse864, on 11/15/2008, -1/+4It would be cool if they launched a higher res satellite than what is allowed by US companies. I would love to see some ultra high res stuff.
- legendxx, on 11/15/2008, -2/+5If they want it to work hopefully they won't use their own coders
- omjeremy, on 11/15/2008, -2/+5SCOTT MCINTYRE: The man responsible for all of the DailyMail spam on the front page. I wish I could block his submissions.
- atomic811, on 11/16/2008, -1/+4you sir are untouchable. :-)
- diggpandit, on 11/16/2008, -1/+4idiot
- ortucis, on 11/16/2008, -0/+3"But when those feats of technology are achieved by depriving funding to other critical needs"
You are a retard, you know that? Government spends ten times more on programs on literacy or spreading 'awareness' in villages. Spends ten times more on military hardware (which is a must as well). What ISRO gets is even smaller than a piece of pie they deserve.
So yeah, kindly stfu.
EDIT: Oh I see, you are an NRI. Typical, have no idea what's going in India but know everything about it. I think you should stick to imagining how we are all living in huts and have cows roaming in every corner of the city just cause western media said so. That will make you feel better. - diggpandit, on 11/16/2008, -0/+3lol are you from mars? India has only one desert that too a small one in comparison to the size of nation, that is in southern borders of India-Pak, the Thar desert.
- loopyloopy, on 11/16/2008, -0/+2the "list goes on" comment always lights up my ***** meter
- houndeyex, on 11/15/2008, -0/+2Blame NavTech. Google gets all it's images from other companies.
- chirt, on 11/16/2008, -0/+2Dugg for truth
Science ftw - ortucis, on 11/16/2008, -0/+2Armchair critics like him can be found in people like Raj Thackrey causing riots. So his views are important.. so that you can ignore them.
- itsradBrad, on 11/15/2008, -0/+2Not all of them.
http://laudontech.com/GISBlog/wp-content/uploads/2 ... - inactive, on 11/24/2008, -0/+1I think alot of Indians recognize that corruption is wrecking India.
- Vallsurf, on 11/17/2008, -0/+1@ Everyone ^^
I lived in India for two years between 2004 and 2006.
I was a high school student at an American international high school, taking economics classes from American professors analyzing Indian issues. I lived and learned the day to day perks and faults of India's social and economic developments, and while i do not condemn what they are striving for, their extremely ***** up and disgustingly corrupt governmental problems will eventually be India's downfall if not fixed. All of the technological and economic improvements and growth are great, but its all just candy coating on the shaky foundations of the country. The country need a complete overhaul of government to fix essentials, but unfortunately their extremely democratic and corrupt ways will most probably prevent it for quite some time.
/rant to diggers who always think they're better informed - nurbsenvi, on 11/15/2008, -11/+12Shouldn't India invest in infrastructures first?
- ortucis, on 11/16/2008, -0/+1My guess is 'conquering the ____ ' (your fav planet) means that India has conquered the knowledge required to be with the big guys up there? It can also mean that media likes to use words like 'conquer' for a third world country which is sending advanced probes up their at less than half of the cost required in the first world.
- Vallsurf, on 11/15/2008, -17/+18Maybe India should fix their roads, poverty and extremely corrupt government first.
Just my two cents though. - stutimandal, on 11/16/2008, -1/+2"" Space-hungry India is planning to launch an improved version of Google Earth using its own satellite system ""
You missed the word improved. - ortucis, on 11/16/2008, -0/+1Well, many people from NASA (among other agencies) are sending their resume to ISRO after this launch last I checked, so anything can happen. :P
- inactive, on 11/24/2008, -0/+1@ortucis: Oh god I hate Thackrey.
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