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- jaybol, on 05/14/2008, -2/+93it looks like 5 year olds did the artists' renditions
- chsbrgr, on 05/14/2008, -0/+37Clever aliens! A hovering craft with skis for landing gear.
- utdrew182, on 05/14/2008, -2/+23Looks more like an engineers field sketch, we're not the most artistically gifted.
- ChuckIT, on 05/14/2008, -2/+22kinda reminds me of this: http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=ir ...
- Kapitaine, on 05/14/2008, -5/+23In all seriousness, you'd have to be stupid to believe there is no life in this Universe other than that on Earth. The moment we're born, all we know is what is in the room at the time, then, slowly as we get older, we venture out and discover new and more unimaginable things. What makes Space any different?
I'll bet that space has so many more planets with life that we can't even comprehend. - Shakermaker, on 05/14/2008, -1/+15What a fantastically craptacular set of pictures.
- noots, on 05/14/2008, -1/+15no one is questioning the existance of life elsewhere in the universe.
Believing alien species' are advanced enough to detect life here and then travel thousands/millions of light years to come visit us, only to then have to hide in bushes to watch us (and then be detected with their pants down) is pretty outlandish tbh. - burketo, on 05/14/2008, -0/+14a hand drawn doodle complete with dimension lines... looks like the work of an engineer to me!
- BelatedHero, on 05/14/2008, -0/+10So the aliens just come here to go skiing. Cool.
- cygnus2112, on 05/14/2008, -1/+12As much as I would want to cheaply criticize the depictions, I'm sure I couldn't do much better with my stick figures and rocket ship drawings that I do for my 3 year old. Most common people do not have artistic talent any better than they were a kid.
- o6uoq, on 05/14/2008, -0/+9google 'Disclosure Project'
- pleiadianagenda, on 05/14/2008, -9/+24This galaxy and universe are teeming with life, and on many dimensions. You might as well believe the earth is flat if you believe we're all alone in this INFINITE SPACE.
The fact "man" is so convinced of his own superiority just goes to show how primitive he really is. - br0ken1128, on 05/14/2008, -2/+13This UFO debate is always amusing, people tend to make so many assumptions..
We assume that traveling that far and that fast isn't possible, why? because our science hasn't discovered a way yet.. why does that mean another civilization elsewhere hasn't? we used to think the earth was flat.. we got schooled! and we'll be schooled again.. we're still relatively young folks.
Also people say why would they come all this way to "hide in the bushes" .. etc .. Maybe they are attempting to study and observe, maybe they are intergalactic tourists browsing around? maybe we can't be saying we have a clue what their motivations would be.
Bottom line .. 1. We don't know alien capability, 2. We don't know we're even dealing with alien life and 3. It's quite foolish to assume our scientific laws are unbreakable or absolutely correct. 4. It's absurd to assume we could understand why they behave in the way they do (assuming it's alien life) - cygnus2112, on 05/14/2008, -0/+7It must have been Winter
- Spyder2k, on 05/14/2008, -4/+12I want to Believe
- nobodyreads, on 05/14/2008, -0/+7if they're not on my facebook, myspace, friendster,twitter, linkedin accounts they don't exist. so poke me if you're out there
- Findeton, on 05/14/2008, -1/+8Well, sir flashback99, i have to contradict you because ME MYSELF have seen one of those UFOs, so i have to agree with cococooky: UFOs do exist, that is Unidentified Flying Objects (that we don't know what they are doesn't mean they are aliens).
I'm from Spain, and i was very reluctant to all the UFO thing and so, but we were in vacation in asturias (north of Spain) somewhat 5 years ago druing what's called here 'San Lonrenzo Day'. We (9 people) had stopped in a seaside town and were just about to enter a restaurant when a 10-meter-radius ball appeared out of nothing in the middle of the bay, about 50 meters above the sea. It had a very shiny and changing color and it went through the 5km bay in about 3 seconds, in a ascending trayectory, then it made an impossible turn to go straight to the clouds and dissapeared. It lasted less than 5 seconds but left everyone that were watching the bay at that instant with our mouths very opened.
You can believe me or not, but truth is that i saw it, and it was an UFO: Unidentified Flying Object. I don't think it was an alien ship or something like that, just an UFO, something i can't explain but that certainly has an explanation. I mean, egiptians believed the Sun (Ra) was god, i won't make the same mistake: it's science who should deal with UFOs, not crazy believers in aliens. - DemonWasp, on 05/14/2008, -1/+8*sight
- feshmania, on 05/14/2008, -0/+6I heard that an alien ship dressed as a human won the downhill event in Lillehammer in the '94 Olympics.
True story. - RealmDown, on 05/14/2008, -0/+5Actually, that's the Jupiter 2.
- cococooky, on 05/14/2008, -10/+18Everyone's a skeptic until they have seen one with their own eyes, and while I'm sure some are hoaxes and the delusions of psychotics, some are definitely genuine UFO sightings.
There are a multitude of pilots, air traffic controllers and police officers who have filed reports, but that barely scratches the surface of sightings that go unreported. I know quite a few people who have seen objects in the sky that cannot be explained - as I have myself.
Just last week I was talking to a local farmer, who said on more that one occasion he had seen lights moving about above his land, then like a bolt of lightening they accelerated out of site. - DemonWasp, on 05/14/2008, -1/+8Yes and no. Both are based off of assumptions, but there's then the question of which assumptions are more reasonable:
Belief in God:
- Requires assumption that a god exists. Not terribly reasonable, by most standards.
Belief in Aliens:
- Requires assumption that we are not unique. More reasonable, given evolution and the laws of statistics over the essentially-infinite universe. - dOOBiEx213, on 05/14/2008, -4/+10Pilots, lawyers, politicians, etc..? You're right... a bunch of Quacks. Have you ever considered the number of sightings that have gone unreported? Perhaps for fear of ridicule? You're forgetting one simple thing: UFO = unidentified flying object, NOT alien spaceship. So unless you've been able to identify every single thing you've seen in the sky, you too, have seen a UFO. Now slash your wrists.
- feshmania, on 05/14/2008, -0/+5the best caption on there is "Ding Ding! Here comes the *****-mobile. I've never seen a fire truck that needed to be shaved."
- Kapitaine, on 05/14/2008, -0/+4They come here for our slopes! Loving the snow plow :)
- LeRenard, on 05/14/2008, -1/+6You are overlooking a big problem with believing UFOs to be extraterrestrial. There are a fair amount of very learned people who would agree with you that extraterrestrial life is not only possible, but probable. Dr. Drake figured the odds quite famously: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_equation However, those figures are for our own observable galaxy. Our nearest neighbor, Proxima Centari, is 4 years away at the SPEED OF LIGHT. As far as we know super-luminal travel is not possible, which means the likelihood of any alien life being able to reach us in any reasonable amount of time on the human time scale is quite low. If they were here, they certainly wouldn't be zipping here and then back home, either.
- rayraym0fucka, on 05/14/2008, -3/+7You kidding? Someone would have castrated him for that.
- RealmDown, on 05/14/2008, -0/+4That proves their intelligence more than any argument I've heard so far.
- Frostek, on 05/14/2008, -1/+6I doubt anyone is saying that. What most people think is that whilst there may be life elsewhere in the universe, none of it has come and visited us.
- hakz, on 05/14/2008, -1/+4I need to go to the. Toilet!
- fantasticjon, on 05/14/2008, -0/+3Good points, but I am going to assume that the known scientific laws (or our understanding of them) hold up until there is some overwhelming proof otherwise. You can make wild speculations, and it is fun to imagine "what if?", but arguing that there are phenomena that cannot be explained by science is no different what religion does.
- Metman, on 05/14/2008, -0/+3Exactly - I do not argue that statistically speaking we are probably not the only life forms in the universe. I argue that they would come to this planet get caught 'watching' / crashing / landing and have every government/agency/organization covering it up effectively. While I certainly can believe that at some point 'aliens' may have visited this planet - not at a rate of 450 unique sightings a year (in the US alone).
- DemonWasp, on 05/14/2008, -0/+3No. I'm going to explain this very thoroughly now, so hopefully I can dispel this notion entirely.
"Faith" refers to "a strong belief in a supernatural power or powers that control human destiny". "Science" is a process, and an accumulation of knowledge arrived at through that process, which allows us to make testable predictions about the world. You may have noticed a similarity here: faith believes in a supernatural power, while science "believes" in a set of "powers" (forces, mechanics, what-have-you) instead. In that sense, faith and science are related, but you have to realise that there is a fundamental difference between the powers in faith and the powers in science.
In Faith, this power takes the form of some (generally benevolent) deity, who will grant miracles, and lead his (her?) followers to a blessed afterlife...unless they sin, in which case damnation. The activity of the power is dependent on your faith and prayer, and even then the capricious deity may elect to not grant you that much-needed miracle.
In Science, these powers are the eternal rules of the universe. They are not changed (though our models and descriptions of them are), in time or space or orientation (i.e. we can form rules that describe any situation in space-time; this is symmetry). The powers are rules, tenets of the universe, not a being or creation. But the biggest difference, really, is that our understanding of these powers is known to be faulty, and we constantly seek to improve our understanding - to question which powers are fundamental and which are merely byproducts. The difference may seem subtle to you (my wording might not be the best), but rest assured the difference is staggering.
The quest to change and challenge the existing belief is a major part of what distinguishes science from faith. In faith, you are told to believe, and that "God works in mysterious ways". In science, you are told to question, to learn and understand, and that there are no mysteries we cannot unravel in time (because, after all, the universe is predictable, and we are clever).
I may not have done a particularly good job arguing the difference here (and I'm sure some killer point will come to me at about 3am), but I hope I've at least shown you one. If you've got a counter-argument, please post here, I will read replies to this comment. - SystemError51, on 05/14/2008, -1/+5It is no longer just a belief when you have personally seen something that cannot be explained with conventional methods. Like I have seen something. And since this is Digg, I won't go on any more detail on my sighting.
- berkeleyblue, on 05/14/2008, -0/+2I liked the skis on the bottom of the UFO. So that's why they come to our planet -- for the great snow skiing. Global warming could ruin this space tourist attraction. ;-)
- grayscaler, on 05/14/2008, -1/+3When it comes to UFOs it feels like April Fools Day all year long.
- MrFurious2k, on 05/14/2008, -1/+4I got my tinfoil hat ready.
- Zoltair, on 05/14/2008, -0/+2There is no doubt there is other life in the universe, to believe otherwise is naive, to believe that there is any near by enough to visit, is just plain dumb...
If we can not communicate with others due to their distances, then we may as well be alone..... - flashback99, on 05/14/2008, -3/+5it's difficult to draw from your own imagination.
- d4ftpunk, on 05/14/2008, -1/+3UFO in thumbnail = hellicopter...
- inactive, on 05/14/2008, -1/+3I'm not suprised at all that you add nothing of value to this thread.
- Logicexe, on 05/15/2008, -0/+2feshmania, what you're missing here is that all scientific laws and theories are subject to revision. If we gained further compelling evidence that contradicted past evidence than the theories would have to be thrown out a remade in light of the new evidence. Scientists test out their own theories all the time, nothing is taken on faith.
- Yoness, on 05/14/2008, -0/+2Put that back on the refrigerator with the rest of your kid's drawings...
- inajeep, on 05/14/2008, -0/+2This is not about belief this is about proof. Those drawings(made by Simon or not) don't prove anything.
- brundlefly76, on 05/14/2008, -2/+4Yeah its pretty clear that these would get the A-OK for declassification.
They are like the deleted scenes from a bad DVD abotu UFOs. - Troy64, on 05/14/2008, -0/+2The don't want to violate the prime directive.
- Logicexe, on 05/15/2008, -0/+1How do you know it cannot be explained by conventional methods? Have you done any serious research into the what it could have been? Have you explored all possibilities? Have you accounted for possible optical illusion or hallucinations? There are thousands of ways a set of lights in the sky can appear to be moving as if it were a alien spacecraft, just because you don't have an explanation, doesn't mean we should default to anything as radical as "alien spaceship!"
- differentangel, on 05/14/2008, -0/+1More Dr. Jacques Vallee about important findings in UFO phenomena
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFguBv8unrQ - feshmania, on 05/14/2008, -0/+4I totally agree with you--it's more or less what I meant.
But it brings me to a question I've had for years: is science essentially nothing more than a faith based off observation? - feshmania, on 05/14/2008, -0/+1Adam West knows he's being watched
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