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- sundancekid503, on 10/12/2007, -0/+23"So if you go the edge of the universe, and you go past it, what is there?"
According to this poster, a Firefox toolbar is just beyond the edge of the universe. - Knightfall, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17@Xarou
I'm going to show my geekiness here and I hope I am remembering things correctly from reading the Star Wars books. The Kessel Run was in fact measured in distance. They had to navigate around a cluster of black holes to make the run thus greatly increasing the distance. To make it in the mentioned 12 you had to have a spacecraft fast and powerful enough to skirt closer to the black hole event horizons than most other transport ships. The beloved Falcon was the only ship that could indeed do it in such a short distance.
Damn .... that was too geeky even for my. My apologies :-) - cocoamix, on 10/12/2007, -5/+22There is no location listed for the Kessel Run. I know it's around 12 parsecs.
No DIgg. - thcobbs, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15Yeah, I believe that is called "logarithmic".
Go get a slide rule you geek! - Torx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10This ***** depresses me.. brings it back to how we're wasting time and money killing each other when we could be exploring and propagating ourselves to other regions of the universe..
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12You assume it was created because, due to your experience is a human being, your mind can't wrap around a concept that differs from that assumption.
And we do comprehend most of the basic elements of it. It's just that the more we discover, the more we see that there's more to discover. First we learned about cells. Then we learned about atoms. Then we learned about protons and electrons. Then we learned about quarks. The deeper you go, the more there is to see. That's the beauty of knowledge. - pjleonhardt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10One of the secret projects during the Cold War was to construct a ginourmous mirror outside of our galaxy so we could take a picture of the mirror, making it SEEM like the picture was taken from outside of the galaxy...
now I must kill you before they get to me. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Torx:
If this is enough to depress you, I bet you'd commit suicide after reading this:
http://www.bigskyastroclub.org/pale_blue_dot.htm - PLUMCRAZY, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10As part of the universe, you can't go beyond the edge of the universe. Anywhere you are or go to IS the universe.
"No matter where you go; there you are." - lockfist, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9I forget how beautiful PSR B1620-26 (M4) can be on a clear night.
- Akaji, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11Keep in mind that the further out you go, the smaller the scale is. So Saturn is NOT 2 km away from Jupiter :P
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7This is not a map. It's a graph that shows distance. For distance, all you need is the starting point (earth) and the ending point (everything shown on the graph).
If you want a 3-dimensional view of the universe, download Celestia:
http://www.shatters.net/celestia/ - lostradamus, on 10/12/2007, -12/+19Too small to read. Please upload 1:1 scale version. Thx.
- VeryBoredNow, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8the begining of the universe
- macaddct1984, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Well, it should be further noted that the scale can't be used to find the distance between other things.
For example in the universe:
8.................O................X
with O being earth
is going to look like:
O.................8X
on the scale - crombie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6@ Knightfall
Ok, you're my new hero, and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter. - SimianSamurai, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Reminds me of the introduction to Contact where the camera begins by looking at Earth and zooms out until the whole universe is flying past and then...
A GIANT EYEBALL!!!
AAAAARRRGGGGHHHH!!! - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6monergism:
Bad analogy. You imply that the universe has a boundary, like glass around a fishbowl. There is no boundary around the universe. There is no end. No edge. No limit. There can be nothing "outside" that which has no "outside". - MrMysterious, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11Kinda like your girlfriend?
- flibby, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6It is the latest X-ray Observatory. http://cxc.harvard.edu/cdo/about_chandra/overview_cxo.html . It compliments Hubble and the other NASA "Great Observatories" program. http://www.nasa.gov/audience/forstudents/postsecondary/features/F_NASA_Great_Observatories_PS.html
- lostradamus, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9...maybe I should have been more clear with my sarcasm.
- radigan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Couldnt agree with you more. Actually I registered on Digg just for this thread because I wanted to say something on this.Obviously not everyone shares the same view on this. I know its a mouthful to comprehend but apparently the more important thing for humanity right now is making war with other countries, pollute this planet to death, being consumed with the wonders of capitalism, and I could go on. People as a whole dont have ambition in doing the right and necessary things anymore, they just live out their meaningless lives on a spec of dust in this universe and its sad that most people never stop to think whats beyond the great beyond. Where is the curiousity?
- channelx, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Yeah we should be out trying to make it with hot alien babes. "Because that what man dreamed of when he first looked up at the stars?" - Zat Branigan
- AncientTV, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I swear to god if I ever see that flash pop up again I'm going to shoot somebody. It's complete pseudoscience ***** babble, the dude even states that it isn't the commonly accepted theory amongst scientists.
- adml_shake, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5this map.....printed on black paper and white ink! Where everyone has a evil gotee!
- neave, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4This doesn't depress me, it humbles me. There's a difference, it just depends on your point of view ;) Wonder in awe, don't worry in despair...
- neave, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4You mean M4, The Closest Known Globular Cluster? http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap000523.html
- Xarou, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6And there they used parsec as an increment of time, rather than an increment of distance. BIG ERROR
- pjleonhardt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4There is no "other side" to the edge of the universe. The universe itself is the bounds of space-time. To ask what is outside of it is a nonsensical question. It just happens to be a result of our definitions of the universe and our coordinate systems.
- ICSU, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Where is the Romulan Star Empire?? Marked as inaccurate.
- triscuitbiscuit, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I have learned that thinking about all this stuff makes my head hurt alot.
It's unfair that all this was created yet we humans can't even comprehend the most basic elements of it. :( - Xarou, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3You do realize that, from this image, the edge of the Milky Way is about 10 parsecs away. If you don't understand how big a parsec is:
1 parsec = 3.085 x10^13 km away or a little over Pi light years away.
1 AU, which is the distance between the Earth and the Sun, is 4.85 × 10^−6 parsecs
It took the Voyager Deep Space Probe 27 years to get to 4.6 × 10^−4 parsecs away. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8Thats cool
- lburgguy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Contact was an even better novel if anyone reads anymore.
- bightchee, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Wait... if we don't have a satellite outside of the Milky Way then where did we get a photo of the galaxy for that "You are here" poster?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Asking about the edge of the universe is like asking how big infinity is.
- sonicdevo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4solar observatory i believe
- Xarou, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@Knightfall
Very well Knightfall, I didn't know that. Too bad you probably won't read this to see that you taught me something. I guess I'm going to go get the books and learn about Star Wars that isn't in the movies. - sonicdevo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2No... more similar to your astronomical literacy. :)
On a more serious note; direct versus indirect observation of a celestial body (or group thereof) is a HUGE deal in terms of being able to claim said body is actually there. - pediddle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"Bleh, methinks it would be much better if the image was circular"
While you're at it, go ahead and make it 3D so you really have an idea of direction. Do you have any idea how large that would be?
Regardless, the point is to show all the equidistant things in the universe on the same horizontal line. This is about distance, not direction. - jimbob666, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@ilyag:
The article and pictures you posted are very, very moving. Makes you put everything into perspective. Thank you. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Quick! Send an angry e-mail!
- PDelahanty, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3That's where they're keeping the Wii that you don't have yet.
- jebudas, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I dont like this map bc/ it doesnt capture this amazing fact!
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After the sun, the closest star is over 4 light years away. So if there’s one inch between the Earth and sun, it’s 4 miles between us and the nearest star (paraphrasing Stephen Hawking).
+ - SEN5241, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Since the plot is 2D (with distance and RA coords), I'm guessing it shows the planets at their current position and distance.
- SakisRakis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Mind the logarithmic scale.
- kravex, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@ Ramtech
Yeah, with the title 'E.T. on his way home' :-) - sonicdevo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Agreed. No _direct_ observations have confirmed its existence.
- baxtermaddux, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5you get unlimited access to the ocarnia of time
- hybridcreation, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Well done, Knightfall.
I now know that my Star Wars geekiness has an equal. :-) -
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