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- IphtashuFitz, on 08/08/2008, -1/+101I think the best proof that we made it to the moon is the fact that the Soviet Union never challenged the claim. We first made it there smack in the middle of the cold war, and you can guarantee that the Soviets were watching with their optical telescopes and listening in with their radio telescopes. If the USSR could have embarrassed the USA in front of the whole world by proving that we didn't go to the moon they would have done so in an instant. The effect of showing that the USA was a bunch of untrustworthy liars would have been huge as far as the USSR was concerned. There's no way we could have faked the actual trip to the moon, all the telemetry, radio, and tv broadcasts in such a way that the Soviets would have believed it came from the moon if it was actually coming from a sound stage in Hollywood (California or Florida).
- juniorb, on 08/08/2008, -3/+97Why dedicate a whole episode to this ridiculous topic?
Damning proof that we went to the moon before 1970.
1. Laser range-finding retroreflectors left on the moon. Anyone with a good enough range finder in 1970 could measure the distance to the moon.
2. Radio enthusiasts all over the world tracked the Apollo communications all the way to the moon and back. - revjustin2, on 08/08/2008, -1/+87What's totally f'd up about this comment is that I really do have goblins under my house AND they are indeed, invisible.
- sgiffy, on 08/08/2008, -2/+66Not sure how you could bust that. I mean if I told you there were goblins under my house the only way to could bust it would be to go under my house, but its pretty hard to do that regarding the moon.
Plus I could just say the goblins are invisible. - Blue7Alien, on 08/07/2008, -9/+63Looks like its going to be a good episode but not very scientific.
- Reaktor5, on 08/08/2008, -8/+49So what are they going to do with the rest of the 59 minutes?
- sindex, on 08/08/2008, -3/+43Sooo... kind of like Mythbusters, then?
- sgiffy, on 08/08/2008, -0/+34You can pretty much patent anything. That's not saying much. And sure you can generate hydrogen and use it as a fuel in cars, but you don't get anymore energy out as you are just breaking and reforming bonds. The problem with doing onboard is that you might as well jsut use the electricity to run the car.
- jkoski, on 08/08/2008, -0/+33Don't you realize that EVERYONE who knows the truth is keeping the secret and ALL those enthusiasts are lying? (Sarcasm for those not paying attention)
Juniorb the only way to keep your head from exploding over the stupidity of moon landing conspiracy theorists is to ignore them and move on..... then push them off a cliff when no one is looking. - directedition, on 08/08/2008, -9/+40I'm still waiting for them to do the existence of God episode.
- Smokeydabear, on 08/08/2008, -0/+28Yeah, I want to break my dryer.
- thall, on 08/07/2008, -6/+32What about the myth that, even though we did go to the moon, there were unexpected artifacts found already on the moon?
- flipmeat, on 08/08/2008, -1/+25The clip is just a taste of what's planned, the 'Busters had extensive NASA cooperation for the moon landing episode. Adam's model lander looks excellent. Still, it's unfortunate that this issue should get any more attention.
- robomoo, on 08/08/2008, -0/+24Here's why I'm glad they've dedicated a whole episode to this topic.
Far too many people still think that the moon landing was hoaxed.
Far too many. - Smokeydabear, on 08/08/2008, -1/+24I watched the meat tenderizing episode last night. I want to try the dryer full of ball bearings method.
- JackSrenton, on 08/08/2008, -0/+22the tycho monolith?
- EvilBadger, on 08/08/2008, -2/+23As long as Kari plays the sexy moon vixen.
Wow, even I disappointed myself with that one. - inactive, on 08/08/2008, -1/+21oh, ok.
- EBFoxbat, on 08/08/2008, -2/+22Hyneman / Savage '08!!!!
- macslut, on 08/08/2008, -0/+19By "retroreflectors", do you mean the alien lander beacons?
- NeoCortex, on 08/08/2008, -1/+18I don't really watch Mythbusters to learn about proper scientific method. I get that all day doing research for my degree.
I watch Mythbusters to see them blow ***** up, plain and simple. - Rollic, on 08/08/2008, -1/+17Man, I love this show. And, granted, this isn't one of their pure science episodes, but it reminds me a lot of the Alcatraz escape. Color me excited.
- juniorb, on 08/08/2008, -0/+161. You need to position those reflectors (not lasers) by hand. You think the Russians wouldn't announce they were the first to do it?
2. There was no conceivable way to fake a transmission coming from the moon in 1969 without putting a radio source on the moon. And if you could put a transmitter on the moon, you could put a couple people there.
Who needs more proof besides crackpots for whom there is NO proof that can't be assimilated? I present legitimate evidence, and you weave more webs of conspiracy. That sort of unfalsifiable theory is the furthest thing from science. - maximallimit, on 08/07/2008, -1/+17Can't wait to see it live...it is bound to be atleast interesting :-)
- robomoo, on 08/08/2008, -0/+16No, the flag is not visible. Sure the moon is close, but to have high enough resolution to see the flag is practically impossible from earth. You can mathematically determine this. The primary mirror would have to be over 350 feet wide. At this size you would not be able to resolve the flag on earth still because of the turbulence in the Earth's atmosphere (This "turbulence" has effects even the smallest scopes. As you are looking through so much atmosphere it can be hard to get sharp images with all that 'wobbling' about. It looks like the distortion when you look through hot air above the surface of a road). I understand actually that there is/was a satellite/probe that would have been able to see the flag but it does not fly along the correct latitude. Not sure about that though.
- inactive, on 08/08/2008, -1/+16you want to break your dryer?
- juniorb, on 08/08/2008, -0/+15"If the hubble can see far away galaxies than the lander on the moon should be a breeze."
Hubble can see far away galaxies because they're ENORMOUS and VERY VERY BRIGHT.
There is no camera or telescope in the world that has the resolution to see a bus-sized lander from a quarter of a million miles away. - bagboyrebel, on 08/08/2008, -1/+15the show hasn't even aired yet, what are you talking about?
- notmtwain, on 08/08/2008, -1/+15The problem is that they've already done all the good myths. They're running out of gas.
Did you see that one where they tried to jump over the shark? - Guvante, on 08/08/2008, -1/+15Watching them blow up model skyscrapers would be good times, but I doubt the average viewer would approve.
Too likely to get the station sued over "Making fun of the deceased", it is a much better idea to work with an idea that didn't involve thousands of deaths. - Merendino, on 08/08/2008, -1/+14While I'm unsure if what I think you said is true, I don't believe it was a hoax... but you used MICROSCOPE instead of telescope, and I had to completely disregard your statement.
- BossKey, on 08/08/2008, -0/+13The huge problem with your theory is that you keep saying it was Nixon alone. Nixon didn't even get into office until 1969, AFTER Apollo 8 had already orbited the moon!
There are so many other errors in your thinking...like why would they bring a massive a zoom lens capable of photographing distant stars, when the lens size and weight required would not have been worth it given the difficult fuel/mass limitations of the main mission of getting to the moon? It was a much better deal to simply hoist a large space telescope into Earth orbit instead of trying to get it all the way to the moon. You get the benefit of no atmosphere either way, so why spend extra to put it on the moon? That's why we have the Hubble space telescope, which has been such a success. Certainly there were all kinds of interesting scientific ideas brought to the table when the moon plans were announced, but like probably 99% of all the scientific ideas that were proposed, "hey, let's take pictures of stars instead of the never-before-seen moon geology under our feet" did not make the cut for reasons that are SOOO obvious...
You forget how expensive the space program was. It was killed because it simply cost too much money to be sustainable with 1960s technology. The point was not that we could do it, but how long we could afford to keep doing it. We had a long, sad, expensive war to fight at the time.
In general, you seem to think it was easy, cheap, and instant (since you forgot that they had to start back in the Kennedy administration...Nixon wtf?)
All you did was help prove that all you moon conspiracy theorists are completely nuts. - SineCurve, on 08/08/2008, -0/+13Dude, they have... About 8 months ago. :)
Here you go:
http://mythbustersresults.com/episode97
and
www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSBFQOfas60 - SchmuckofNI, on 08/08/2008, -6/+19To quote my old Anthropology Professor Taft, "Science can neither prove nor disprove the existence of God."
- MattNF, on 08/08/2008, -1/+14Right, because scientists never make mistakes. Ever.
- kbir007, on 08/08/2008, -8/+20...or the flying spaghetti monster (hallowed by thy name).
- inactive, on 08/08/2008, -0/+11I want to know if Karis boobs float in space.
- FroTheWin, on 08/08/2008, -11/+22You could use that same argument for religion.
- Coyote47, on 08/08/2008, -0/+11no telescope in existence is capable of resolving a discernible picture of the LEM much less a boot print
- scarwars, on 08/08/2008, -0/+11good point
- tito13kfm, on 08/08/2008, -0/+10"The moon? The moon moon? Wow! I'm going to be a hero, like Neil Armstrong and all those other brave guys no one ever heard of." - Phillip J Fry.
Also another quote from that episode that has nothing to do with the moon, but one of my all time favorites.
"Yeah, well... I'm gonna go build my own theme park, with blackjack and hookers. In fact, forget the park! " - edd17, on 08/08/2008, -0/+9Actually 'all those government tests' showed that it's a fraud..
See i can just make ***** up too, in fact 'all those government tests' showed that you're a moron and i slept with your wife. - balthisar, on 08/08/2008, -0/+9What are "ALL government test"? The government doesn't even do tests. Unless it's for a lunar lander. that type of stuff. This is the stuff that industry would be doing, not Uncle Sam.
- molotovcat, on 08/08/2008, -0/+9Is there really such a crayon?
- juniorb, on 08/08/2008, -0/+9It's ridiculous to believe that the thousands of people involved in the Apollo project who would HAVE to know about the hoax in order to pull it off have kept silent all this time. People aren't like that. Produce one credible member of the Apollo project who admits it was a hoax, and I'll give them an honest listen.
As for the "facts" that it's a hoax, there are none. Non-believers only have some half-baked theories about shadow angles and prop letters to go on, and spend most of their time coming up with counter-arguments for the believers' mountain of evidence. "But look at all the other conspiracies," is not a valid argument. If it were, than ANYTHING and EVERYTHING is a conspiracy.
The space race was a giant pissing contest. Coordinating the largest conspiracy in history to win said contest is as nonsensical as using a machine gun to kill a mosquito. The level of detail, planning, and flawless execution required to pull off such a conspiracy makes strapping a couple test pilots to a rocket and pointing it at the moon seem EASY!! - Fordi, on 08/08/2008, -0/+8Dugg up for knowing how chemistry works!
- cawpin, on 08/08/2008, -0/+8Don't speak of people being smart or not smart. It doesn't suit you.
*they're*
Also, I'm not denying that I've seen a couple of things that they said weren't possible that I KNOW are. The prime example in my book is shooting through a counter sniper's scope. They said it wasn't possible, but it is documented to have happened. Carlos Hathcock was the inspiration for the scene in Sniper, the movie. - IphtashuFitz, on 08/08/2008, -0/+8I'd rather recreate the final space shuttle scene between James Bond & that female astronaut in Moonraker with Kari.
- morogolus, on 08/08/2008, -2/+10I used to really enjoy Mythbusters but the show's gone from using real scientific method to test different myths to just constantly blowing things up and the build team testing boring myths that no one cares about. Adam's turned into a complete retard with his stupid impressions all the time and Kari's become completely useless except to look hot. I think the last good episode they did was the Hidenburg one. Although I have hope that there may be redemption in this episode.
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