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- FrameWraith, on 06/18/2009, -0/+23I guess I'll have to say it. Greased lightning.
- asgardshill, on 06/18/2009, -0/+13Thunderbolt and lightning, very very frightening ...
- brokeswagen, on 06/18/2009, -1/+9Did I ever tell you I was struck by lightning seven times? Once when I was just walking around on Mars.
- nitsuj, on 06/18/2009, -1/+9Say what you like about Miller-Urey, it was done with conditions that they thought were representative of the early Earth. Now we think that Earth's early atmosphere may have contained less reducing molecules. Nevertheless, it was a useful exercise in creating the conditions to synthesise amino acids. Still useful because (from the wiki): "Published in October 2008[6], a re-analysis of material from the experiments showed 22 amino acids rather than 5 were created in one apparatus.[7]" That's noteworthy.
Try this for more recent progress pertaining to synthesis of RNA molecular components:
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/tag/rna/
Quite how you can talk about 'junk science', 'assumptions' and then 'inaccurate assessments' whilst linking to creationist BS videos is a remarkable show of rational, logical and reasoning fail. - cuoops, on 06/18/2009, -0/+7source - http://www.ns.umich.edu/htdocs/releases/story.php? ...
- ApokalypseNow, on 06/18/2009, -2/+9@DavidNiven
The formaldehyde ***** has been debunked for years. Cyanide and formaldehyde (both created in Miller-Urey) are necessary building blocks for important biochemical compounds, including amino acids. the Miller-Urey experiment *did* produced amino acids. They are not toxins in this context.
Abelson, P. 1996. Chemical events on the primitive earth. Proceedings of the National Academy of Science USA 55: 1365-1372.
Kawamoto, K. and M. Akaboshi. 1982. Study on the chemical evolution of low molecular weight compounds in a highly oxidized atmosphere using electric discharges. Origins of Life 12(2): 133-141.
Schlesinger, G. and S. L. Miller. 1983. Prebiotic synthesis in atmospheres containing CH4, CO, and CO2. I. Amino acids. Journal of Molecular Evolution 19(5): 376-38
Try looking to real science rather than "creation science", which isn't scientific in any sense of the word. - imomo, on 06/18/2009, -0/+6if theres lightning, there's zeus!
- 4321234, on 06/18/2009, -0/+5If there's Zeus, there's a good chance of Mars.
- failtrain, on 06/18/2009, -0/+4Slightly moist lightning.
- digitalArtform, on 06/18/2009, -0/+4They found a smoldering pair of little green boots.
- law1ess, on 06/18/2009, -0/+4Ruf.. just like your mother likes it, Trebek!
- solboldi, on 06/17/2009, -0/+4I dugg...but a little short on content.
- asgardshill, on 06/18/2009, -0/+3"Dry lightning"? Is there any other kind?
- inactive, on 06/18/2009, -1/+4That wasn't lightning. The Martians were shooting stills for net porn.
- Inaktivist, on 06/18/2009, -1/+4AMAZING! Oh wait, that's not what I mean. What's that thing that's the opposite of amazing? Oh yeah... meh.
- vsujohn2, on 06/18/2009, -0/+2She also likes it dry, so be prepared to deal with the unfortunate chafing afterward.... :/
- AzzX, on 06/18/2009, -1/+3It's a god-awful small affair
- crossmr, on 06/18/2009, -0/+2Yup.. if you don't die right after you get off the spaceship, you can look forward to dodging lightning as you walk around and admire the scenery.
Up next: Turns out there is a corrosive poison in the air that only eats the glass that they use on astronauts helmets..guess how they discover it - generaleet, on 06/18/2009, -0/+2Wow, I just got distracted by the 100 meters per gallon hummer.
- Dylson, on 06/18/2009, -0/+2http://img.moronail.net/img/8/6/1386.jpg
- Nydendarin, on 06/18/2009, -0/+1Shocking!
- rednaxela825, on 06/18/2009, -1/+2I could digg you up twice if I would, but I can't, so I'll award you with 12 internets.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_j67VosWlR8 - blorc, on 06/18/2009, -0/+1*Evidence of lightning found on Mars.
- inactive, on 06/18/2009, -0/+1Or jupiter...it all the same.
- SwedishPirate, on 06/18/2009, -0/+1Great! An already unlivable planet, and now it has lightning?!
- inactive, on 06/18/2009, -1/+2I'm not sure if you're the world's best Troll, or the world's stupidest Human.
- DekarCorvus, on 06/18/2009, -0/+1makes sense since mount olympus IS infact on mars...
- Dylson, on 06/18/2009, -2/+1GIGGIDY. Not sure why.
- Koeuz, on 06/18/2009, -0/+0Awesome coincidence that there happened to be a completely unrelated picture of lightning at that link to use as a thumbnail.
- twictae22, on 06/18/2009, -0/+0There is a little more detail here: http://www.ns.umich.edu/htdocs/releases/story.php? ...
- Benjerama, on 06/18/2009, -1/+0The thumbnail got me all excited for nothing.
- inactive, on 06/18/2009, -2/+1Isn't that amazing just as amazing that almost all the other planets have lightning. Venus, Jupiter, Saturn,Uranus, and Neptune. (not to sure about Uranus...)
- cuoops, on 06/18/2009, -5/+3source - http://www.ns.umich.edu/htdocs/releases/story.php? ...
- ganymede2010, on 06/18/2009, -4/+2Water+Oxygen+Lightning=Life! With those conditions being present i'm surprised we haven't found anything other than bacteria on Mars.
- russianmike, on 06/18/2009, -4/+1First no oxygen then no water... Now lightning? Now we're never going to Mars
- DavidNiven, on 06/18/2009, -5/+1FTA: "It affects atmospheric chemistry, habitability and preparations for human exploration. It might even have implications for the origin of life, as suggested by experiments in the 1950s," said Professor Nilton Renno of the university's Department of Atmospheric, Oceanic and Space Sciences.
Bullcrap. Junk science. The "experiments of the 1950s" is most assuredly referring to the Miller-Urey experiment trying to see if pre-life organic material, particularly amino acids, could randomly have been created by natural processes including electrical discharge.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller-Urey_experimen ...
However, this Miller-Urey experiment was full of junk science, assumptions, and inaccurate assessments, both in the way life-giving chemicals form and ideas of the early Earth atmosphere. This experiment resulted in formaldehyde which is antagonistic toward viable pre-life organic materials, not good for trying to create life.
https://www.csm.org.uk/expo1.php?PHPSESSID=donjmka ... (not that I agree with everything the Creation Science Museum says, but...)
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/687932/molecular_col ... - brokeswagen, on 06/18/2009, -9/+2Double post my bad!
This kids a newb fag



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