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- rald84, on 10/29/2008, -3/+26too bad it was electricity. if it was oil, we'd be there by the end of the decade.
- kcdstudios, on 10/29/2008, -2/+23Takes Juan to know Juan
- saleem, on 10/29/2008, -2/+17Not life, but electricity sparked organic amino acids:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller-Urey_experimen ... - StigNordas, on 10/28/2008, -1/+15Who's going to be the first billionaire in 2020 to make the trip?
- blobrana, on 10/28/2008, -2/+15Lightning discharges were observed during the Voyager 1 flyby of Titan in 1980
- analogkid01, on 10/29/2008, -0/+13@takamalak...you don't need an exorbitant amount of fuel to reach anywhere - you just need enough to get a good constant velocity, and then you just put "Isaac Newton in the driver's seat." If you want a constant *acceleration*, then you'd need to be continually burning fuel.
- inactive, on 10/28/2008, -2/+14wake me when they find the Sirens...
- fwertz, on 10/29/2008, -3/+14Cocaine is a hell of a drug.
- WordsnCollision, on 10/29/2008, -0/+10"As of now, lightning activity has not been observed in Titan's atmosphere," said lead author Juan Antonio Morente of the University of Granada in Spain.
You callin' Juan a liar? - chililili, on 10/29/2008, -0/+102 more years until they find the monolith and we get a second sun and world peace!
- Screwy1138, on 10/29/2008, -0/+8Short Circuit.
- suckanucka, on 10/29/2008, -0/+7I would volunteer for a one way trip without hesitation.
- cgibbo, on 10/29/2008, -0/+7Ahahaa SPARK. I see what you did there.
- jmkiii, on 10/29/2008, -1/+8I'm not even sure what you are trying to say, therefore I have dugg you down.
- analogkid01, on 10/29/2008, -0/+6That's without a female companion, remember. You sure?
- slvrbullet87, on 10/29/2008, -0/+6You dont seem to understand what a hydrocarbon lake is do you? There are lakes of oil and liquid natural gas on Titan
- norman619, on 10/29/2008, -0/+6For all we know there may be life there. We seem to only be concerned with life as we know it here on Earth. Life out there on a planet that is NOT like Earth may support life unlike anything we are familiar with and as a result it would most likely go unnoticed by us.
- wunksta, on 10/29/2008, -0/+5lightning could be a catalyst to the right compounds in the right conditions, helping to form the basis of life, which has actually already been shown.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller-Urey_experimen ... - WeirdNGilly, on 10/29/2008, -0/+5Lightning was not seen by Voyager, and it hasn't yet been detected -- only evidence of ELECTRICITY (which is a good sign, but still not lightning, per se). From a 1990 issue of the journal Nature:
LIGHTNING is known to occur in the atmospheres of Earth and Jupiter1, and there is strong evidence of lightning on Saturn2 and Uranus3. Based on its extensive atmosphere, the presence of aerosols and the deposition of significant amounts of solar energy at its surface, it has been calculated that Saturn's largest moon, Titan, may produce lightning with an energy dissipation rate somewhat less than that at Earth4. An opportunity to search for evidence of lightning at Titan occurred during the Voyager 1 encounter with Saturn on 12 November 1980, when the spacecraft passed within 4,394 km of Titan's cloud tops. Because optically thick cloud and haze layers prevented lighting detection at optical wavelengths, we have searched for lightning-radiated signals (spherics) at radio wavelengths using the planetary radioastronomy instrument5 aboard Voyager 1. Given the maximum ionosphere density6,7 of approx3 times 103cm-3, lightning spherics should be detectable above an observing frequency of 500 kHz. Failing to find any evidence for lightning-associated spherics, we infer an upper limit to the total energy per flash in Titan lightning of approx106 J, or about a thousand times weaker than that typical of terrestrial lightning. The level of lightning activity on Titan has implications for the production of certain hydrocarbons in its atmosphere and for the design of instruments on spacecraft such as Cassini, which is scheduled to arrive at Saturn in 2002.
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v343/n6257/ab ... - protogenxl, on 10/29/2008, -0/+5ALL THESE WORLDS ARE YOURS EXCEPT EUROPA. ATTEMPT NO LANDINGS THERE.
- Akronos, on 10/29/2008, -0/+5Because humans were able to create a complex modern society with cars, planes, computers, xboxes, skyscrapers, atomic bombs, etc. all within a week, starting from scratch...
Please. I don't see anyone who said or even implied that lightning would create a fully fledged organism immediately. Scientists actually believe that DNA wasn't even created first and wasn't the first molecule to hold genetic information. It was an early form of RNA that later evolved into DNA. Read up on the RNA world hypothesis. Really, is the idea of evolution and slow growth and increasing complexity all that hard to grasp?
But I don't even know why I bother with you. I would tell you to go get an education but you're just another troll in the army of ignorance (A.K.A. fundy Chrisians). - rodrigo74, on 10/29/2008, -0/+5Frankenstein's monster.
- wunksta, on 10/29/2008, -0/+5Hmmm, I wonder what's on Europa...
- 0260, on 10/29/2008, -1/+6did you just watch "expelled" or something?
- DiggzDE, on 10/29/2008, -0/+4Put me on that short list....
Now I just have to figure out how to become a billionaire. - andyd273, on 10/29/2008, -0/+4Although, it seems like that would settle the question about life being there...
I don't think you can get oil without some kind of decaying organic matter. - caracter2, on 10/29/2008, -0/+4It's Aliiiiive! It's ALlllIIIIIVE!!!!!
- mr0nine2five, on 10/29/2008, -0/+4Watch this ---> The Origin of Life - Abiogenesis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6QYDdgP9eg
and if that doesn't get your attention, then here's something that will;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0 - lornefs, on 10/29/2008, -0/+4"Seriously folks?"
What do you have against scientific curiosity?
Don't be so quick to dismiss life out there. Even here on Earth there are organisms that live in conditions that you could never survive in.
There are places in Saturn's atmosphere that are very hospitable.
BTW, there is no way that this gorgeous planet can sustain unlimited population growth. - jmkiii, on 10/29/2008, -0/+4If you are going to make up words you have to be clever about it.
Spoken like a blocked idiot that I don't have to listen to any more. - Nightlurker, on 10/29/2008, -0/+4Its entirely possible to not have a religion and still NOT believe in life being created by some random acts of electricity..
I believe life was created by cake, or possibly a really big spoon. - Narcism, on 10/29/2008, -0/+3It takes ~half a year to get to Mars, never mind Saturn... that's a long field trip.
- mgenovese, on 10/29/2008, -10/+13And at what point have we ever observed life created via electricity...?
- WalkAroundMe, on 10/29/2008, -1/+4....so your creationist little mind knows your white anglo Jesus did it?
- inactive, on 10/29/2008, -0/+3Although there is now evidence of electron conductivity, there is no direct evidence of lightning so far.
ESA website:
"No terrestrial-like electrical discharges were observed by Voyager 1 during its fly-by in 1980. This, however, does not rule out discharges with a magnitude, repetition rate and characteristics different to those known on Earth." - inactive, on 10/29/2008, -2/+5first we would need a reason to bomb the ***** out of the moon though
- inactive, on 10/29/2008, -0/+3"Neverlutionists are so desperate to prove their unprovable theory."
Why would anyone be "desperate" to prove that lightning assisted in the development of the first microorganisms? Good scientists follow the available evidence, not their personal desires. - Tbyrd073, on 10/29/2008, -0/+3Final Answer?
- WalkAroundMe, on 10/29/2008, -0/+3Thank you for adding substance to the discussion of a very important scientific event and the subsequent validity of the recorded observation of the phenomenon.
It is however sad to find so few educated responses in this thread.
Gigg is still filled with, what I like to call the 'funny, one line people' -- don't really possess the intelligence to field a reasonably rational response -- who just pop off with the first half-cocked non-sequitur that pops into their small brains. - Tbyrd073, on 10/29/2008, -0/+3I thought that the Prothean Technology was discovered on Mars, and the Mass Effect relay in this system is beyond the planet Neptune. Unless I am not remembering correctly.
- Fallout911, on 10/29/2008, -0/+3Hello!!!
Ancient Prothean technology! - kcdstudios, on 10/29/2008, -0/+3dude, you don't even know, lightning is the *****.
- Markers, on 10/29/2008, -1/+4Raiden.
- KaiUno, on 10/29/2008, -0/+2Sure. But you'll have to leave immediately. So no spending it.
- jordanlgta, on 10/29/2008, -1/+3No.
- caracter2, on 10/29/2008, -1/+3Trees are orange.
- blobrana, on 10/31/2008, -0/+2My mistake, there was no direct evidence of lightning from Titan seen. it seems to have been from Saturn and only speculated to occur on Titan.
- Nightlurker, on 10/29/2008, -0/+2(The bible does disprove evolution, atleast in humans.. How else could Adam and Eve be the first humans?)
Spoon and cake I tell you, thats where its at. - DelMonte, on 10/29/2008, -0/+2"too bad it was electricity. if it was oil, we'd be there by the end of the decade."
I heard that Saturn has weapons of mass-destruction! - inactive, on 10/29/2008, -0/+2he cant elaborate because he's an idiot.. Also there is no such thing as a redneck atheist.
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