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- adrenaline33, on 06/04/2008, -3/+14I don't think bringing up ***** that happened 300 years ago is very relevant. It is also pointless considering just about every big country now has skeletons in their closet if they existed that long ago.
- whatdotcolor, on 06/04/2008, -4/+15Sichuan Earthquake: Chinese Government responds within 24 hours, Premier Wen personally flies to disaster site.
Katrina Hurricane: Bush celebrated McCain's 71st Birthday.
Yup, you're absolutely right, China doesn't about its own citizens. - Brian48216, on 06/04/2008, -0/+11If there's anything China cares about. It's being seen as an equal. They want to be seen as a superpower like the US. We've been setting a rather crappy example to emulate though.
- inactive, on 06/04/2008, -1/+11In nominal terms they are already the 3rd largest, in real gdp terms they are 2nd largest. In just 5 years in real gdp terms they will be the largest, and in 20-25 years they will be the largest economy in nominal terms. If they obtain half the development of south korea or japan, they will be 2x larger than the united states in economic terms. Thus their military spending could easily surpass the us.
The dragon is slowing waking. - whatdotcolor, on 06/04/2008, -3/+12Considering the United States' military spending is about 25% higher than the rest of the world combined, Americans have no right to point their fingers at anyone
- manzplan, on 06/03/2008, -1/+10China is getting stronger and every time we buy "Made in China" products we are allowing it to happen..
I am not against China personally, but just stating an economic fact.. each country has the same rights to be armed against each other - casspa, on 06/04/2008, -0/+8They'r supposed to surpass Germany as the 3rd largest economy in the next few years, there's no stopping it
- Prathik89, on 06/04/2008, -0/+7I don't see any problem with a country arming itself. Its this weird hypocrisy in the world. The US really cant point a finger at anyone lest the fingers start pointing to it.
- Hangly, on 06/04/2008, -0/+7Yes we are.
- Hangly, on 06/04/2008, -0/+6You've never been to China and you're completely full of *****.
- Hangly, on 06/04/2008, -0/+6This is part of the Chinese doctrine of the shashoujian (杀手锏), or "assassins mace."
The idea is, rather than try to match global rivals dollar for dollar and missile for missile (and go broke trying) they will make an end-run around their rivals and invest in technologies and weapons that negate their rivals' advantage. A shashoujian is something that makes the enemy's military obsolete.
That means building submarines instead of carrier battle groups (China believes carriers are obsolete) and it also means investing heavily in space. The perception is that the US's greatest advantage is spy satellites and GPS technology that it uses to coordinate forces on the ground. By weaponizing space they believe they can negate this advantage. - sockpuppets, on 06/04/2008, -3/+7My housekeeper moved to China. Now she's maid in China, too.
- Wrangler76, on 06/04/2008, -0/+4I love how the blog only quotes 1 word from entire sentences: Chinese military bigwigs have warned that an arms race in space is "unstoppable". Last month, Brigadier General Jeffrey Horne, from the US Strategic Command, told a congessional advisory group that China was "aggressively" developing its ability to shoot down satellites, technology he predicted could be used in a future showdown over Taiwan.
Right... Taiwan-China relations have improved recently and he's already predicting space warfare over Taiwan. - whatdotcolor, on 06/04/2008, -1/+5Umm, most economists agree that China is currently a capitalist state.
- Hangly, on 06/04/2008, -0/+4Only 10% of China's exports go to the US. Boycotting them won't do much.
- inactive, on 06/04/2008, -1/+4Yesm but China isn't reknowned for quality and anything they do make is going to have the famous "Made in China" sticker on it. The US is decades ahead of China with its military technology and funding.
- Hangly, on 06/04/2008, -0/+3That's what we said about Japanese products in the 60's.
China's an emerging economy, and they're getting better.
Remember that China had exactly jack ***** for industry just 30 years ago. - soinie, on 06/04/2008, -0/+3Throw a wrench in China's military escalation in space; stop buying at Walmart.
- Mordecaiwalker, on 06/04/2008, -0/+3Didn't the USA shoot down a satellite from some boat in the Pacific a month later?
I think I remember the news spinning it as, "America Saves World by Shooting Down Deadly Satellite" instead of, "Dialogs Between America and China Have Now Gone Ballistic." - ronar, on 06/04/2008, -0/+3And it was the same that was said of German products in the 1850s. Every economy goes through that phase of producing cheap crap. That is the way they acquire basic industrial skills. Later, R&D will set in and the products will improve dramatically.
- whatdotcolor, on 06/04/2008, -1/+3You get what you pay for, China produces goods with high quality to price ratio. And is renowned for their world class engineering grads.
- dannylewis, on 06/04/2008, -0/+2I was just thinking yesterday about how there needs to be a new branch of the military: Space Force!!!
*pew* *pew* - inactive, on 06/04/2008, -0/+2Look out for the spy...
- inactive, on 06/04/2008, -0/+2The US shot down a satellite at an altitude of 120 miles. If it hadn't a large tank of frozen Hydrazine would have reentered in an uncontrolled fashion and survived to impact the surface, potentially causing injury or loss of life. The Chinese hit a weather satellite at 530 miles altitude. The debris will remain in orbit for 100s of years. In one shot the Chinese increased the amount of spacejunk by 20%.
- ontain, on 06/04/2008, -0/+2the iraq war and the treatment of detainees without trial seems to be more current.
- ics3djc, on 06/04/2008, -7/+9I find it incredible that everyone is so against China. I find it even more incredible that people like the Americans and the British can so easily dub China as human rights abusers when the crimes the US and Britain (among other countries) have committed against their own people and outsiders is infinitely worse than anything China is yet to do.
Native Americans anyone? The so-called Land of the Free first had to suppress and destroy an entire native people before they set up their wonderful country! Talk about an elephant in the room!
Just because the Geneva convention hadn't been written, doesn't mean it isn't human rights abuse! - blast_flame, on 06/04/2008, -0/+2Silly nationalism. Free trade helps parties on both sides of the equation so while China may be a little weaker so would america.
- Hangly, on 06/04/2008, -0/+2Carriers were dominant in WWII before missiles were around. Any kind of large slow ship is just a big floating target nowadays.
I know a lot of people disagree with that, but we won't know for sure until there's an actual war. - whatdotcolor, on 06/04/2008, -0/+2well then you heard wrong.
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1739 ...
he flew there on the same day. - datastorageguy, on 06/04/2008, -0/+2Here we go again with the skewed statistics for engineering degrees. China and India pump out many more engineering grads than the US, but their quality is far less than ours. When they invent some new technologies, let me know.
- inactive, on 06/04/2008, -0/+2I guess time would tell.
- PigGeneral, on 06/04/2008, -0/+2I would get behind the fact the US has amazing battlefield intelligence and a coordinated combined arms because of satellites, and negating that would be a harsh blow.
I do not see the logic in submarines > carrier groups however. - dancingdeer, on 06/04/2008, -1/+2I wonder how some of the kids like joeanon get their crazy ideas? are their parents talking such nonsense?
- valkyries, on 06/04/2008, -0/+1that was just one of the ways we tried to bankrupt the USSR.
- Hangly, on 06/04/2008, -0/+1The military responded immediately. Since the roads were damaged and the area was too cloudy for helicopters the PLA sent in paratroopers.
- datastorageguy, on 06/04/2008, -0/+1Wrong. We send our low paying jobs that don't require higher education to them. We, in turn, replace those jobs with high paying technical service jobs that require degrees.
- Eezyville, on 06/04/2008, -0/+1This is true. American engineers are definitely high quality and so are alot of European and Russian engineers. But Americans are #1. :)
- valkyries, on 06/04/2008, -0/+1my sentry?
- Eezyville, on 06/04/2008, -0/+1Have you ever seen Independence Day?!
lol j/k
We can better protect, monitor, and spy in space. We can have nuke silos in space, laser cannons, anti-spy satellites, and information satellites in space which will be useful come WW3. - valkyries, on 06/04/2008, -0/+1done and done
- inactive, on 06/05/2008, -0/+1Throw a wrench in China's military escalation of space; throw 'em a Chinese wrench.
- timisondigglol, on 06/04/2008, -0/+1Err never mind actually. For some reason I read that whole article as "space race" and not "space arms race". Yeah bury that comment.
- valkyries, on 06/04/2008, -0/+1thats why those big slow ships have a very large defense system setup around itself, from other ships to other subs to helo's and aircraft.
- starmanjones, on 06/05/2008, -0/+1>China is getting stronger and every time we buy "Made in China"
>products we are allowing it to happen..
if you were them and the fearless cowboy leader of the worlds superpower was militarizing space would you not try to counter that? to secure a piece of it for your society?
i mean... they can see how it works. we want to get rid of all the nukes. we are ready to blow the hell our of iran... maybe even use nukes on them... if they don't get rid of the nukes we think they might have...
but, we will keep our nukes.
same thing... everybody can see how it works. - Lavarock, on 06/04/2008, -1/+2Yeah. The quality is jack ***** and so is the price! Wonderful! I love China for selling me a $10 bottle of pills made of chalk!
- blast_flame, on 06/04/2008, -0/+1What exactly is so special about putting weaponry passed this imaginary line where space begins?
- starmanjones, on 06/05/2008, -0/+1now if we could just get everyone degrees in a society where about as many people don't graduate from high school as do... then that plan might work.
i've noticed that people who push that idea are against free education and other social programs that would be necessary.
the answer to my complaint points out that this is just social darwinism rehashed again... again... - hendrixiloveyou, on 06/04/2008, -1/+2Quite possibly the worse digg comment
China is better prepared than america for any financial crisis, they actually have a trillion dollar currency reserves
theyve created a huge middle class which is also now having a effect on world food prices as thiers a demand in dairy and more meat products.
and in the face of rising energy prices...well theyre actually acquiring deals from oil producing countries by staying out of their affairs and occasional building project.
Their space program is behind but it'll catch up as the USA doesnt seem so concerned about theres, heck on the digg comments theres the usual 'what a waste of xbillion dollars' no matter what news item it is.
Yes India is also up and coming but its china thats emerging to be a dominant force.
And the USSR was a direct threat to USA in terms of industrial capacity, armed forces, technology and number of nuclear weapons, hence it being quite a scary time in the cold war. - rushjaycarr, on 06/04/2008, -0/+0I still think Reagan's "Operation Star Wars' is the way 2 go...
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