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- CamZak, on 10/12/2007, -3/+98"They estimate the possibility of accidentally destroying the planet as extremely low." now that's comforting. Okay, I suppose the odds are technically higher for me to suddenly pass right through the chair I'm in and fall to the center of the Earth...but usually when a project mentions accidentally destroying the planet I get a strange feeling.
- xtmno3, on 10/12/2007, -1/+74* To do this they will smash protons together at huge speeds along a 27km tube known as a particle accelerator.
* They hope to create tiny black holes or find extra dimensions in the universe.
Ah, science! If you can't figure something out on paper, smash two things together as hard as you possibly can! - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+64 Baby Bang? Sounds illegal and pornographic
- Anrkist, on 10/12/2007, -2/+43First Pluto and now earth.. these scientists must be stopped!
- violentgreen, on 10/12/2007, -2/+38This really sounds like the beginning of a bad science fiction movie
- sockpuppets, on 10/12/2007, -0/+36You're AOL user 711391, aren't you?
- coheedcollapse, on 10/12/2007, -2/+37"a 1 in 10,000,000,000,,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 chance"
Ok, well if I'm going to die of something that's at an impossibly improbably low chance, I might as well be sucked into a black hole with the rest of humanity. It's a hell of a lot better than slipping on ice and breaking my neck. - aphonik, on 10/12/2007, -3/+35If they do destroy the planet I'm going slap them with a comically large wet fish.
- sockpuppets, on 10/12/2007, -3/+35Where's Gordon Freeman when you need him?
- Mejogid, on 10/12/2007, -0/+29You don't need to 'close' black holes. According to quantum theory (and assuming black holes exist) we currently believe that hundreds of quantum black holes actually pop in and out of existence every second. It's a bit sketchy, but a black hole isn't necessarily a huge planet guzzling Apocalypse.
However, it does bring into question - if someone tests a theory that could be potentially devestating and even threaten humanity, should they be allowed to contunie and under what conditions? - chicken101, on 10/12/2007, -3/+31...everything? :D
- florin, on 10/12/2007, -3/+26Yeah, I was always wondering what the Moon is good for. Now I know.
Take it to the Moon, guys. - Araxen, on 10/12/2007, -3/+26imagine the lawsuits if they destroy the planet.
- Slovenian6474, on 10/12/2007, -1/+21Don't Panic
- LucasVB, on 10/12/2007, -4/+24Yeah, but what if the black-hole is created in another dimension and destroys a big part of a major civilization over there? We wouldn't notice a thing, but they could get really pissed at us, and suddenly we'd be in the middle of an interdimensional war!
- Urusai, on 10/12/2007, -2/+22According to Dr. Ian Malcolm's "chaos theory" bad things are guaranteed to happen, such as high tension terror and exciting chase scenes followed by insipid sequels.
- bertilak, on 10/12/2007, -2/+22Will this be The Best Bang Since the Big One?
- pumacub, on 10/12/2007, -2/+20That's what Dr. McKay said about destroying the universe last week.
- sockpuppets, on 10/12/2007, -5/+23Ask him at the top of a tall staircase, you're more likely to get a more truthful response.
- Langford, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17I +dugg you for humor, but seriously, on paper it's all just fancy math, untill an experiment is performed.
- swilber1579, on 10/12/2007, -4/+19At least the guys at Union Aerospace Corporation had the smarts to perform these experiments on Mars! Get the marines ready...
- CKR600, on 10/12/2007, -4/+18Well, if by any chance these baby bangs end up being only 0.0000000001% of the actual big bang. It wouldn't matter if the experiment was done on Earth, Mars, Pluto, Andromeda.... we'll feel it.
- MehYam, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15>we'll feel it
Actually, in that circumstance, we wouldn't feel a thing.
Makes you wonder, though - if intelligent life on other planets is a statistical inevitability, and yet we've received no radio signals from such life, then maybe it's an experiment like this that snuffs out a planet soon after it's intelligent life starts trying to understand particle physics, extra dimensions, etc. Hey... is that a black helicopter hovering outside? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16I'm terribly afraid of this.....
I want Stephen Hawkings opinion first. He's definitely the Go-To guy on this type of stuff.
If he told me gravity doesn't exist, i'd believe him. - mrnitrate, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15The risk is calculated at about 10 to the minus 40 - a 1 in 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 chance. but there just guessing
- doublebackslash, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13I don't know where to find this, but in order to reach a 'critical mass' of sorts to destroy the earth the black hole will have to have a mass about that of Mt. Everest to absorb enough material fast enough to suck the earth in. Even then it will take millions of years due to the small size of the black hole. Of course time falls exponentially if the mass is larger than that, but they deal with trillionths of a gram of material in those accelerators, not nearly enough. At those masses the black hole is so small it is smaller than an electron, finding matter to absorb is a bit of a problem at that point.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+15Prediction: Switch is thrown. Lights will dim in a 20 mile radius. Scientists' hair will rise off their head for a second or two... then....
nothing. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13demons will leave the lawyers alone out of professional courtesy.
- 4degrees, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12they are waiting for you gordon... in the test chamber.
- LucasVB, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9On a serious note, that are at least two major concerns I'm aware of that were considered in previous experiments:
1) Maybe the experiment could create a stable black hole. This could happen if Hawking radiation is making wrong predictions to the sort of black holes involved, so they don't evaporate as predicted. Some theorized that strange matter could catalyze normal matter and create more strange matter, which would gather into a high-density object that eventually turns into a black hole.
2) The experiment could create a bubble of false vaccuum, which would expand at the speed of light. Inside this bubble, laws of physics would be drastically warped due to a different vacuum ground-state energy. If this were to happen, the planet would be destroyed in about 50 miliseconds.
The thing is, we detect particles (cosmic rays) all the time with much higher energies than the ones that will be involved at the LHC, so scientists aren't very worried. If these stuff were to happen in these conditions, they should had happened long ago. - BaylorDawg, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11"We wouldn't loose a planet, the sun would get a new asteroid belt."
Unless they did create a black hole that they couldn't control or wouldn't evaporate and it ate everything up in solar system -- including the sun. I suppose then another galaxy would be formed... that's not a bad way to go out. Hi my name is Tom, I helped create that new galaxy over there. What do you do? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12Anyone else see Event Horizon?
- LucasVB, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Psh. Yeah, because we all know Dan Brown invented particle physics.
- ahhell, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10What could possibly go wrong?
- sockpuppets, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11It would just send the remaining batch of lawyers to hell, where it would be business as usual.
- LucasVB, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7,,,,,,,,,,,,,,...............
Just thought you might be out of them. - diggduggjoe, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Well, probably nothing will go wrong, literally with odds that low. However, this may explain where all the intelligent life in the universe went. Poof! ;)
Well, this experiment contains a lot of energy in human terms, but compared to the actual Big Bang it is nothing. People should relax a bit. I would say there is far greater risk just living as we do. Humans seem quite capable of destroying themselves without physics experiments. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9As long as they don't these experiments at the Black Mesa Research Facility (or on Mars) I think we should be ok.
- locojones, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10According to Wikipedia (and thus, take it with a grain of salt), the Large Hadron Collider cost an estimated $8 billion US dollars. That seems like a very wise investment on behalf of these European countries, allowing them to take the lead in areas of particle physics, cosmology, etc. in order to better probe the nature and existence of the universe.
With projects like this, it makes one wonder what America could've done with the several hundred billion dollars it has spent bombing brown people in Iraq. - anonatron, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9Mmmmmm... pan-galactic gargle blaster
- Karnbeln, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Most educated people of Columbus's day were very much aware that the world is round. That whole "Columbus sailed to prove the world was round, because everyone thought he'd sail off the edge!" thing is a myth. Why we teach so many myths is grade school, especially when it comes to American history, I'll never know.
- threemagic, on 10/12/2007, -10/+15the odds are extremely tiny of something going wrong. Just think of all the greatness that could happen?
The could open the gates to Hell itself and end the Jesus speculation forever! - elnerdo, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9Because the only things that can possibly survive the world exploding are politicians, lawyers and cockroaches.
- UnglueD, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7This could be like 9/11 times 10 to the 40th power
- jonathono2000, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4According to Discovery magazine the odds of destroying the planet (actually the universe) are as little as calculating how many subatomic particles have ever been ejected from any star ever and then realizing that none of those have ever caused the universe to collapse so why would doing it a couple times extra by the hand of man be any different? Or something like that. I can't recall exactly what they said but the odds are so little that guy who replied first does actually have a better chance of falling through his chair and into the center of the earth.
- manicdvln, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6 "They estimate the possibility of accidentally destroying the planet as extremely low."
Anyone found this quote to be amusing? Or rather troubling. - Tenlow, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8I always knew child pornography would cause the end of the world.
- Ramble, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5It's called Hawking radiation for a reason jackarse.
- dclowd9901, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Does anyone know if this is a String Theory experiment? The way he was talking about right-angle dimensions, it sure smelled like it...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7FYI, a black hole would not cause the planet to explode into a million pieces creating an asteroid belt. The black hole (if it doesn't evaporate) would plummet to the center of the earth and oscillate back and forth until it had engulfed the entire planet. A process that would probably take weeks and would cause huge earthquakes, etc before the planet finally folds into a small dot of nothingness. The resulting black hole would do nothing to our sun and just hang out in the solar system in the earth's current orbit. The space station, all satellites, the moon, etc. would stay in their current orbit. All the while, the cockroaches feasting on Twinkies on the moon would be laughing their little indestructible heads off at us.
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