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- inactive, on 03/24/2008, -3/+34If god made Earth just for us, what/who did he make all these other empty planets for?
- Chaoticfist, on 03/24/2008, -2/+33Pretty amazing. I am willing to be that by the time i die (i am 19). We will have discovered thousands if not hundreds of tens of thousands of planets. And hopefully we will develop the means to travel there as well. BTW. Right now using nuclear propulsion technologies (dropping a nuke behind a space ship to push it) We could reach Proxima Centarie in a few decades. Pretty cool *****.
- inactive, on 03/24/2008, -1/+21Its not that cool, I have been there and its the same touristy ***** you find everywhere else.
- JlmAWP, on 03/24/2008, -2/+22We'll manufacture a reason once we get there, don't worry. And if we don't, then we weren't meant to do it.
- AaronSTL, on 03/24/2008, -1/+13When we find a planet inhabited with intelligent life I hope we have the following conversation with them soon thereafter:
"Help us settle a bet. Have you ever heard of Jesus or Mohammed? No? Didn't think so." - DrDragun, on 03/24/2008, -1/+12Let's get a Voyager probe enroute to Alpha Centauri already. It's 2008 sheesh.
- dfdub, on 03/24/2008, -0/+11I wonder how much longer we will putter around our solar system on chemical rockets. Lets bring back project ORION and go find some cool *****!
- inactive, on 03/24/2008, -1/+9*ahem*, we evolved from a common ancestor to chimps and humans, not from chimps... k?
- nblsavage, on 03/24/2008, -0/+8http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Orion_%28nucl ...
- garryw, on 03/24/2008, -1/+9and the terror alert color levels
- purplehaze420, on 03/24/2008, -0/+8I already went to all of those places, and killed hitler.
- Chaoticfist, on 03/24/2008, -2/+9i meant hundred of thousands.
- garryw, on 03/24/2008, -0/+6277 out of 1 trillion. We have work to do.
- Godlike, on 03/24/2008, -2/+8You included.
- pianomahnn, on 03/24/2008, -2/+7Yea, that would be awesome. Except humanity seemed to stupid, as a whole, to do much more than waste resources killing each other.
- docbob84, on 03/24/2008, -0/+4Nah, even in the nineties we could have sent a probe there in a hundred years or so, plus transmission time of 4.5 years. They designed Project Longshot, among others, using existing technology at the time. There were others using supposedly-near-future technology (ie Daedalus) that would try to make the trip even shorter. It's not warp speed or whatever, but better than just waiting around until things are perfect before we even start.
- staxofmax, on 03/24/2008, -1/+5At our current level of propulsion technology it'll take over 50,000 years for the probe to get there. Or we could wait a mere couple of centuries until we get the technology to get there in person, assuming we don't blow ourselves up or starve to death first.
- asskicker32, on 03/24/2008, -2/+6He didnt. The other kids in his Middle school science class inveted them for the state science fair too.
- subterfuge, on 03/24/2008, -6/+10KEEP YOUR ROSARIES OFF MY ASTRONOMIES
- Godlike, on 03/24/2008, -1/+4No, you are so wrong, god made WOMEN to confuse humanity.
- somespecial, on 03/24/2008, -1/+4None that they can SEE though, they are just guessing there are planets because the sun wobbles
- zelig, on 03/24/2008, -0/+3I saw a lot of this stuff on "The Universe" on the History Channel.
- RickyBarnes1960, on 03/24/2008, -0/+3Here's hoping we learned at least ONE thing from visionary Gene Roddenberry - the principle of non-interference. Here's hoping it is not we who become the invading space aliens who eat the inhabitants. Here's hoping we approach such exploration with deep humility born of principled respect born of authentic wisdom.
- garryw, on 03/24/2008, -0/+3They dont even see the stars wobble to be exact. They see change in electromagnetic frequencies ineterpreted as wobbles.
- yikiad, on 03/24/2008, -3/+6didn't I see you at the starbucks?
- Godlike, on 03/24/2008, -0/+2Generally, the attitude amongst those who take a LOT of time to consider such things is as follows (in my experience with educated theologists)
Gods other creatures are not under our purview. God created the heavens and the earth, and gave dominion over the earth to Man. This means all of the earth and it's animals, NOT all of Gods creation - which would not include those living elsewhere, meaning that anything done by us in the solar system in Gods eyes is skating on thin ice - I.E. we would be totally out of bounds with God for starting any ***** or sinning.
Now, travel and communication aren't really that frowned upon but God has a 'divine plan' for us here on Earth, on EARTH - and it is not out somewhere in the cosmos for us to discover like curious little apes. "He put us here and made it so hard to leave for a reason" I was told once.
Also, I have read that Jesus died on Earth for our sins, and as this is our firmament and the place where God intends for us to be, that sins committed outside of the earth are not 'covered' by such an atonement - though they take the earth to mean the anachronistic view of the waters, orb, sky and 'void' of very-near space. The atonement was for MAN and not anything else - i.e. aliens have to pay for their own sins.
Basically the pie-in-the-sky view of things is that we belong on earth and that while God created everything else too, his plan for US is here and we shouldn't interfere with what else he has planned.
DON'T SHOOT THE MESSENGER! - DrDragun, on 03/24/2008, -1/+3Yeah like everyone is saying, the craft could use an Orion-style pulse drive with mini nukes.
- JlmAWP, on 03/24/2008, -2/+4That'd be like shooting a peanut out of the main gun of a battlecruiser.
- Brad324, on 03/25/2008, -0/+2but still, I can see his point. It's not like there's a compass in space. There's no north, south, up or down. There's just stars, everywhere. We know the way things move relative to earth, but landing on a different planet could make calculating the path to earth incredibly difficult.
- matt510, on 03/25/2008, -0/+2"Except humanity seemed to stupid, as a whole" Define irony.
- Godlike, on 03/24/2008, -0/+2(that's in the bible, too)
- inactive, on 03/24/2008, -1/+3Ho many have had oxygen discovered in spectrographic analysis of their atmospheres? How many Earth-sized ones have been detected by space telescopes watching planetary shadows traverse the parent stars? Let's check back next year when the Kepler goes online.
- LoreleileeLong, on 03/24/2008, -1/+3Brilliant work by brilliant scientists.
- fracktica, on 03/24/2008, -0/+2I think @aaronSTL brings up a good question - how would religions "spin" life on other planets (especially intelligent life)? If *insert deity here* created everything and provided us with the guidance of *insert holy prophet here* on earth, then surely he would do the same for other intelligent beings on other planets, right? Well, what if that's not the case? What kind of blue pill would religious people have to swallow to "stay in the matrix"?
- enigma2275, on 03/24/2008, -1/+3Have we learned nothing from Star Trek: The Motion Picture?!?
- McReynolds, on 03/24/2008, -1/+3"Help us settle a bet. Have you ever heard of Jesus or Mohammed? No? Didn't think so."
"May be you earthlings can also help us settle a bet of our own, have you heard of Xenu?"
Holy *****. - KamikazeeDriver, on 03/24/2008, -0/+2------------------*the joke*------------------
-------------------*you*---------------------- - npcabral, on 03/24/2008, -1/+3I'm sure we'll "teach" them the "truth".....
- yaddayaddayoda, on 03/24/2008, -1/+2"My parents went to Alpha Centauri and all I got was this lousy T-shirt."
- OptimismPrime, on 03/25/2008, -0/+1I propose an archaeological dig in egypt to get the damn stargate. problem solved....
- MrSlumberjack, on 03/25/2008, -0/+1Thanks!
- carpespasm, on 03/24/2008, -1/+2they also don't "see" the gravity that holds us to the ground.
- inactive, on 03/25/2008, -0/+1Let's all just pretend the big rock candy mountain planet exists too, while we are at it.
All this hoopla over these distant "worlds" seems silly to me when we are sitting on the only real world humans will ever likely inhabit. In my mind this research is nothing more than a luxury, often at tax payers expense, and will be until the time we better secure this world. - matt510, on 03/25/2008, -0/+1If you can calculate the way to get there, you can calculate the way back. The math doesn't change, just your starting position.
- inactive, on 03/24/2008, -1/+2I believe it was the disney store, but yes.
- matt510, on 03/25/2008, -0/+1There's more than one error there... buddy. Unless both are typos of course.
- Godlike, on 03/24/2008, -2/+3Yes it does.
- somespecial, on 03/24/2008, -1/+2Right, but whether they 'see' gravity or not, "or if it exists" there is something holding us down, in which we call 'gravity'. I was just pointing out there could be other reasons for the changes in electromagnetic frequencies, since our only example is our solar system.
- Zoophagous, on 03/24/2008, -0/+1No, we do not have to travel faster than the speed of light to colonize these planets. We just have to plan for a multi-generational one way trip.
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