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- Cenobite, on 12/20/2007, -1/+52"Dr Gerhard Neukum, chief scientist on the spacecraft's High Resolution Stereo Camera (HRSC)"
I wonder if his nickname is Duke. - DrivinWest, on 12/20/2007, -1/+22Mars has an atmosphere.
- DrivinWest, on 12/20/2007, -4/+23More imaginative people at NASA!? You do realize that these are the people who design, build, and operate spacecraft that go to other worlds. What far-out and imaginative thing have you done other than changing the color of your Second Life avatar's pants?
Science needs scientists, not science-fiction authors. - Snowspot, on 12/20/2007, -9/+27There probably is water on mars... I mean, until humans get there, there's no way of knowing... but for a long time I've thought scientists are way too close-minded about where life can be found. I would say I am 100% sure there is some form of life on mars... I mean, it's a huge planet... do you really think there aren't some secluded places with moisture still around? Even caves underground could conceal an environment teeming with life... we need more imaginative people at NASA if you ask me .
- noahhoward, on 12/20/2007, -3/+21I'm not even sure we should be assuming that water is a necessity. Why does earth's life have to be the only life?
- DrivinWest, on 12/20/2007, -0/+10Oh, and asteroids are rocks - they can't evaporate. You're likely thinking of comets which are a collection of ice, rock and dust.
- BigManOnCampus, on 12/20/2007, -3/+11No, if you make something cold enough you can keep it solid in a vacuum with very little transpiration. If this were not possible, then asteroids themselves would also evaporate.
- daivos, on 12/20/2007, -2/+10If martians don't stop polluting the atmosphere of the red planet....this will be gone soon.
- MarkOfTheDead, on 12/20/2007, -3/+11Sure would be funny if someday we found out our ancestors came from mars after destroying it and raping it for all it was worth.
- inajeep, on 12/20/2007, -0/+7Interesting flow.
For some reason I want a coffee w/ cream. - davewelsh79, on 12/20/2007, -1/+7What do you mean? There is water, in the form of ice, on Mars and we have known that for years.
"The polar caps at both poles consist primarily of water ice. However, there is dry ice present on their surfaces." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars#Climate - brstilson, on 12/20/2007, -0/+6Actually, Mars' ice caps consist of frozen carbon dioxide, not water.
- akise, on 12/20/2007, -0/+5a) Poke around hoping to find *something*.
b) Looking for things we already know.
Pick the one that makes more sense with a limited budget in mind. - JonTheGoose, on 12/20/2007, -0/+5Screw glaciers. Where's the Mass Relay?? I KNOW IT'S THERE SOMEWHERE!!!! GET ON IT NASA!!!
- agorstan, on 12/20/2007, -1/+6Mars has polar water ice caps, so if they haven't evaporated, thats reason to think that ice anywhere else on the surface, if cold enough also wouldn't evaporate.
- sorensilk, on 12/20/2007, -0/+5"probable" - likely to occur or prove true. Example - He foresaw a probable business loss. OR - A probable active glacier has been identified for the first time on Mars.
- glasnostic, on 12/20/2007, -0/+5wow.. so Total Recall was really on to something.. we need to vaporize that stuff and get some greenhouse gases going.
- Snowspot, on 12/20/2007, -2/+7If I'm not mistaken, most of today's technology was predicted long ago by science fiction authors. I think you're being pretty close-minded.
- Tebixan, on 12/20/2007, -0/+4BREAKING: Fossilized Hummer found on Mars!
- nirav72, on 12/20/2007, -4/+8Well chemically speaking..water is required for any biological compound to form. It is a universal solvent. That means, Many chemicals have parts which are attracted to water and parts which are repelled by it. Its like Newtonian laws - you can't escape them regardless of where you are in the universe. As deadmann said above - "everything is made of the same elements and within the same universe" You suddenly can't prove an idea that life or biological organism can evolve from ammonia or liquid methane. Because physically its an impossibility.
- hoosierplew, on 12/20/2007, -1/+5I heard Dr. Neukum's been working on an AWESOME new version of the HRSC for the last ten years or so. Wonder if he'll ever finish it?
- Heni905, on 12/20/2007, -0/+4I've actually had that same idea!
- MacGeekGuy, on 12/20/2007, -0/+4Science, life and everything is all a game of probability. To stop reading something because it's "probable" is asinine (no offense).
- Gir53457, on 12/20/2007, -1/+4It amazes me that in the last ten years we have made so many strides in aerospace. We've assembled space stations, sent satellites to Saturn, found ice on Mars, landed TWO probes on Mars and all in less time than it takes to made a Duke ***** Nukem Game.
- gn0stik, on 12/20/2007, -0/+3As an RP supporter, Stop... Just stop.
- njection, on 12/20/2007, -3/+6Get Your Ass To MARS
- Gir53457, on 12/20/2007, -2/+5We can compromise between the two if we could actually convince congress to give NASA more.
- steviedoodle, on 12/20/2007, -1/+4SUMMARY: Duke Nukem discovers glacier on mars.
- DrivinWest, on 12/20/2007, -1/+4"Science," the over-encompassing term you've used, does not rule out the possibility of life on the planets we know of. All it does is wait for the evidence to accrue. At this point there is no evidence for life off of Earth (with the possible exception of ALH84001). It is disheartening to read about armchair exobiologists here on digg who are "100% sure" that there is life on Mars and others who fail to understand why scientists accumulate evidence rather than make wild guesses. The scientific method has served humanity well over the last few centuries - let's not backtrack.
- Haecceity, on 12/20/2007, -0/+2Right, because evidence isn't even worth considering unless it's a "slam dunk."
- MadAce, on 12/20/2007, -1/+3Fake. That comment has clearly been photoshopped. The shadows are all wrong.
- hudef, on 12/21/2007, -0/+2You can send NASA a donation, if you like.
- miakeru, on 12/20/2007, -1/+3Yeah, I'm not a big fan of the fact that science mostly rules out the possibility of life on the planets we've discovered only because "life as we know it" would not be able to survive there. Why must all foreign life be "as we know it"? Isn't the fact that it's not our planet enough to make it *not* like we know it and therefore open up a slew of possibilities for other ways life may exist?
- bubba9999, on 12/20/2007, -1/+3Jesus Christ - let's get up there and start the warming before it's too late!
- Sinudeity, on 12/20/2007, -1/+3The water is not looking for signs of life.
The water is for us. - Gir53457, on 12/20/2007, -1/+3OK, show me your plans to make a centrifuge that can be powered by solar arrays, Stand up to the damage of space born debris and maintain a a stable orbit while still being a giant ***** gyro scope. Also you have to be able to assemble it in space and split it up into small bite sized chucks that can be placed into shuttle crafts. Do that and I'll hook you up with NASA and US Army engineers.
- MacEnvy, on 12/20/2007, -0/+2In geology we frequently refer to anything that's happened in the last 100,000 years or so as a recent event. Planetary timescales are mind-boggling.
- beerden, on 12/20/2007, -0/+2Mars' ice caps consists of frozen carbon dioxide AND likely a lot of frozen water at other, deeper layers. Sometimes the CO2 could sublime away and reveal the layers water ice, especially at glacial edges. Also because Mars does have an atmosphere, although at very low pressure, this probably helps prevent water from subliming into space too quickly.
Glaciers of water are probably the easiest water in any large quantities that we could detect from space, but there is likely more water frozen just beneath the surface, locked into the layers of rock and dirt. - Tippis, on 12/20/2007, -0/+2Ah *****, ya got me, I ain't even married...
- osbjmg, on 12/20/2007, -0/+2So if you had a reasonable assumption and limited funds, what would you do instead? Something smarter? Not look for water? Not send rovers?
- fieserfettsack, on 12/20/2007, -0/+2actually, it is...
- d03boy, on 12/20/2007, -0/+2Snowspot is right. Haven't you seen The Terminator?
http://www.ric.org/aboutus/mediacenter/press/2007/ ... - Rippleeffect, on 12/20/2007, -0/+2"That means it is an active glacier now. This is unique, and there are probably more" Since when does unique mean more than one?
- inactive, on 12/20/2007, -1/+3You're not mistaken, in fact it was a science fiction writer who invented the communications satellite. It was a science fiction writer who first talked about us going to the Moon. Oh and BTW it will be science fiction writers who will first write about, and then inspire the people who invent the technology we'll be using tomorrow.
Closed-minded....buddy that's an understatement. - Tebixan, on 12/20/2007, -0/+1"we need more imaginative people at NASA if you ask me"
Then why don't you get a job there?
Seriously, both the public & congress would go ape-***** if NASA started doing anything risky or imaginative. The people there would probably love to do some far out experiments, but there isn't the funding for it, and the government wouldn't let them do anything unproven anyway. - Haecceity, on 12/20/2007, -0/+1You think Genghis Khan was a long time ago? How long's your attention span?
- acdcfanbill, on 12/20/2007, -1/+2help help, my ice comets are sublimating!
- SteveTheSultan, on 12/20/2007, -5/+6I just like the guys name: Neukum. Major street cred in the gamer community with that.
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http://hyipnews.freehostia.com/hyip - Sinudeity, on 12/20/2007, -0/+1Pack your bags Martha! Where going to mars!
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