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- guywhodoesstuff, on 10/11/2007, -4/+137I thought this was just another Linux-esque OS, then I realized it loads in my ***** browser...
Label this some thing like "OS that loads in your ***** browser". - Philodox, on 10/11/2007, -3/+85For the love of god, it's not an Operating System. At best you could call it a desktop environment, and more realistically it's an application suite.
- etnu, on 10/11/2007, -1/+61AWESOME! NOW I CAN FINALLY BROWSE THE INTERNET, FROM MY WEB BROWSER!
This is exciting innovation! Previously I was only able to browse the web by launching a desktop application -- now I can do it from any web browser! No download required! Awesome! - kjm16, on 10/11/2007, -7/+67Pretty cool.
Only one question... Why would I need it when I'm already on a computer? - trghpy, on 10/11/2007, -2/+44EyeOs WebSite: http://eyeos.org/
Demo Site: http://demo.eyeos.org/
Damn nice if my opinion matters. - nubnub, on 10/11/2007, -1/+42Thats your browsers scroll bar, not theres. I laugh at you now.
- japostoles, on 10/11/2007, -0/+33Most of you guys are missing the point. It's built using a traditional OS model. There is a micro-kernel, and the applications are using libraries and pre-built widgets. This means to develop an application for eyeOS you can use the libraries and not have to worry about the sometimes-complex interactions that make up a web-enabled application. The window management is also taken care of for you, as is the session management. Someone could theoretically write an application that runs on eyeOS using the libraries and it will run along side the other apps just like with your current OS. I haven't had a chance to look at the SDK yet, but assuming it's well thought out and well written, this is actually a very exciting project.
For you linux people, think of the eyeOS kernel as the linux kernel, and it is currently running an X server with a window manager over top of it and some sample apps.
For you windows people, think of the eyeOS kernel as the windows kernel with explorer.exe running and some sample apps on your start menu. (sorry if that's outdated, it's been a while :-P )
Just like the quote mentioned in the summary said: "the importance of eyeOS 1.0 isn't in its look or in its apps, but in its core." - Scatropolis, on 10/11/2007, -2/+33yay...everything starts with "eye" so I don't get confused and think I'm running real applications.
- drakethegreat, on 10/11/2007, -4/+28Wow I think KDE and Gnome need to take some notes because that UI is better then two of them combined in terms of cleanliness and unity.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -3/+24It's awesome... if you like the feel of using Remote Desktop over dial-up.
- Rhino2, on 10/11/2007, -11/+26""magine having access to any application you used on a regular basis from ANYWHERE""
uh... SSH + VNC (and/or RDP).
My setup:
FreeBSD firewall that runs SSH server. I ssh in and then tunnel VNC though the ssh connection. I then use VNC from the FreeBSD over to my WinXP workstation.
SSH->VNC-VNC
It works well. On windows workstations I use Putty for SSH and TightVNC for VNC.
Both of them are Free. TightVNC is OSS, not sure about putty though.
Both can be run from a thumbdrive or downloaded from the internets
It works fast even over a cable modem and you can set it to '8-bit' display for even faster.
SSH can compress data streams and also TightVNC can compress also. - Y0tsuya, on 10/11/2007, -0/+13@drakethegreat
There are other things, such as emulators, that fall under your description. We don't call those OSes. - Murdats, on 10/11/2007, -1/+12just think, your history wont be saved on that public machine.
you wont be subject to the limitations imposed by the sys admin - jtwyrrpirate, on 10/11/2007, -0/+11Rhino2...not everyone puts on their robe and wizard hat before they do a remote login.
- Philluminati, on 10/11/2007, -0/+11I love moments like these
- axiomflash, on 10/11/2007, -2/+12so you have universal access to these apps because they are on the internet. isn't that what google provides with their web-based applications? what is the purpose of the 'OS'?
- ekso, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9Does it runs Beryl??? :D
- Scatropolis, on 10/11/2007, -3/+11I could see myself using this if it had a mobile version.
- DeathJux, on 10/11/2007, -8/+16kjm16, imagine having access to any application you used on a regular basis from ANYWHERE. Your friend's house, the library, anywhere. You wouldn't even really need to own a computer if it's done right, just memorize a password and have easy access to public Internet access.
I think it looks awesome. - skinjester, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6That's a great explanation and thanks for sharing it. As a software project it seems pretty damn cool, but I'm left wondering what would I use this for on the desktop? Quite possible I'm missing the point but don't feel like I'm missing out on any functionality by NOT using it.Not clear at all what I'd use it for other than development and there's no shortage or frameworks or mature tools on the systems I'm already using.
Mobile devices rather than desktops would seem to benefit more, at least for application usage and communication rather than development. Or maybe not - the folder metaphor is exactly the same as the desktop we've known and loved for 20 years. - newstart, on 10/11/2007, -2/+8Try YouOS its also good and 100 times faster than eyeOS
http://www.youos.com
Its a university funded project. They've been at it for quite a while and its quite mature now. - darfvader, on 10/11/2007, -4/+10FFS! "Why the ***** would I need that!? I just set up suchamishmashofapps and hey presto!"
Well it's not ***** meant for you is it? You expect Joe Public to set up his own BSD server and SSH logins? Or run multiple simultaneous desktops from the same server? If your grandma can't do it, its not ***** easy is it?
I'm not just flaming you Rhino, there are some similar posts below.
It's not meant to replace your desktop OS, it's more like hotmail+google apps+online bookmarks+web storage+whatever all in one place. Let's assume for a second you don't have your own Linux server at home and you're off backpacking around the world and you'll need to sort all your ***** out from tinpot internet cafes in the middle of the jungle. That's where this will come in handy.
Or imagine a sort of roaming profile that works on all OSes with a web browser. Anyone who's encountered the concept of virtual learning environments (used in my work's case in special education) will see exactly where this will be useful. - vaserv, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7Open EyeNav and you have a browser in your browser
- BigFloppy, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7@deathjux
But it's not anywhere, just anywhere where i can get an internet connection. What am i supposed to do in the millions of places i can't?
@drakethegreat
It's not an OS at all. An OS allows us to easily communicate with and use the hardware inside the computer. This does nothing of the sort. It is, as stated, more like an application suite. - ericesque, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6no, I can't. but I can help you define the word 'smug'.
- else, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Please stop visiting, I wanna be able to use the demo :-)
- spyrochaete, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Too bad it's 100% hosted. I want to run my own OS on my web server!
- spyrochaete, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4It's a version 1.0 proof of concept, not version 5.0 for enterprise. Give it time.
- timjbart, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6so it's basically a fancy ftp client
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5i feel sorry for their host.
- lopla, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4I don't get it, i open eyenav and bring up digg.com and it shows me logged in. If this were an independent system why would it do that? On eyenav if i try to visit whatismyip.com it's my ip. Shouldn't it be the ip of the machine hosting my session? Where does it store files? How long before someone can hack everyone's file folders, etc? I don't get this thing.. If it were like a VMWare session running on a machine somewhere else that might be cool, but this looks like smoke and mirrors..
- pengu, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6@nreisan
>good for poor people and uni students
so you mean good for uni students and uni graduates?
hehehe! - Unavoidable, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3I think the eyeOS browser is simply another instance of the browser you're using to run eyeOS. I was using Firefox, and it had all my Firefox cookies and preferences saved on it. So they didn't really make their own browser, so to speak.
- AnteChronos, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3"Open EyeNav and you have a browser in your browser"
...which you can then use to browse to the eyeOS website. Infinite recursion FTW! - qishi, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3This is an operating system in the same way that tweaking Firefox makes you a hacker.
Or knowing PHP makes you a programmer. - Philluminati, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4If I was travelling the world this would be great. I could pop into an internet cafe in china. Recognise enough of windows to decipher the chinese to open a web browser and within seconds I could be checking my mail, writing my memoires etc, swapping music between my ipod and online storage?
Ehh...no I couldn't.
I'd much rather rent a linux server and set up X and VNC and blunder my way to that - to get a real desktop at the end of it. - AkshayGenius, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2I really like the animations that place for ex in maximizing and minizing a windows. Pretty neat for a webOS
- japostoles, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Well luckily it is open-source and it's freely distributed, so honestly, I think it is up to us (the community) to find the best use for it. You could host it on your own server somewhere so you don't have to worry about who the company is on the other end that is in control of your data. I'm perfectly comfortable with Google owning all of my email / calendaring / etc, but I know some people have a problem with that. Assuming someone wrote an email and calendaring program (the calendar app in there now is similar to google calendar) they could host it themselves.
You're absolutely right though, in order for the true value of this to really shine through, I think it needs some great apps for it. That's probably one of the goals for this project, I would assume.. getting developers to use the SDK to make apps (that's a big reason why Windows is so successful).
Also, if the session management works as well as it seems to, it'd be nice to be able to "detach" from my web desktop and "reattach" somewhere else and have it be exactly as I left it.
Ideally we could all carry around a USB stick and pop it in any computer, reboot, and boot our favorite OS with all of our files and settings. I think this is that same idea without the USB stick (and, of course, without out the choice of OS) :) - Baku, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Personally I see this "OS" as a way to transfer anything, to any PC anywhere... be it at work, in an internet cafe, at a friend's house etc.
Its useful for transferable storage if you don't have access to things like VNC, or Logmein.com (which if I have any traces of either on my PC at work, I get sacked...).
If you want a true web-based alternative to this, and you wouldn't get bollocked... logmein.com is great. VNC is preferable though. - thomas, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Looks cool but it doesn't have any have anything I can't already get from Google.
- s1oan, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3I just don't get it...
Why would anyone use this "OS" inside a browser, inside a REAL OS ???
Wouldn't it be much better and safer to boot Damn Small Linux from a pen drive? - pyrates, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2The hell? This is NOT an OS. Stop calling it an OS. This is what happens when marketing takes over.
- Unavoidable, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Wouldn't having more system hooks defeat the purpose of having a portable OS?
The problem I see right now is that with something like Google Apps, everything eyeOS is trying to accomplish has already been accomplished. The fact that it requires a browser to run already limits it to certain tasks, and I don't think a desktop environment is one particularly well-suited for browser windows... - metallikop, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2You fail at humor.
- spyrochaete, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1VNC connects you to another real world machine. EyeOS is an OS with its own apps and storage residing on someone's web server.
- spyrochaete, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1EyeOS has nicer integration than Google Apps. The only thing tying Google Apps together is a couple of blue hyperlinks at the top of the page. With EyeOS you can drag and resize windows to see them at the same time.
- VinceNoir, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1This is rather fuzzy. It's not an OS in the classic sense. But since Joe Average or even Joe "know nothing" Geek today thinks of a desktop as an OS, it's a lost cause trying to get the terminology right. Beyond that, this isn't really an OS OR a DE (Desktop Environment). It's something different. I just loaded it onto my internal Apache server for the home intranet at my house. From what I can tell, it's a set of AJAX apps embedded within a desktop-like interface. If you make your browser go full screen (and it can REALLY go fullscreen like Firefox with the Fullerscreen plugin) it does feel like a desktop. But I tried an experiment with the "browser" they provide. I pointed it at one of the "what's my IP" sites and instead of the IP of the web server at home I got the IP of my employer here at work. So, it's not truly running things on the web server. The web server is merely the "file system" to an extent. The applications are running locally, using the web browser's Javascript interpreter. The data is being shuttled back and forth between the client and the web server as needed and that data can be anything from the files you put on your web desktop or the XML that is used to coordinate Javascript UI calls with backend elements. Very neat, but limited in functionality. I don't expect it will amount to much until we all have gigbit connections to the net and REALLY fast processors on both the server and client ends.
- timjbart, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1as you well know, what I was getting at was adding documents to folders is a lot like uploading something to your web space.
- VinceNoir, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I use OpenVPN to access ANYTHING I have running at home. My intranet, my music collection, my streaming audio server, live DirecTV via Xine (thanks to my video capture card at home), VoIP, remote desktops, e-mail, etc... The problem is that Joe Stupid and his wife can't do the same thing. We real techs can do it easily, but until Joe Stupid and his wife can do it with a point and drool and still be guaranteed of complete security and stability, it will be a non-starter. eyeOS looks like a middle step.
- beerbarron, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I agree with you to an extent, but web 2.0 is a great step forwards. I havn't used word for ages, I don't need it, google docs has done me well so far...its true to say most people don't even use 10% of the full capability of most boxed software, so why pay for what you don't need?
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