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- randovaro, on 10/12/2007, -5/+77Really nice gallery. Pretty much satisfies my curiosity for now.
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Fight! - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -23/+51Looks like a skinned version of Xp.
come on microsoft - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -10/+37How can you look at Purble Palace, and not want to experience it?
- ThinkFr33ly, on 10/12/2007, -17/+37For the BILLIONTH time, Vista is a LOT more than a pretty face: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Features_new_to_Windows_Vista
- TenebrousX, on 10/12/2007, -6/+26"Dell recommends no less than 2G of RAM in order to run Vista!!!!!"
that's because of all the ***** Dell crams into every machine they sell - TenebrousX, on 10/12/2007, -3/+22the same people who don't have gmail accounts
- Gryffydd, on 10/12/2007, -11/+29Shhhhh, it's supposed to be a secret!
- carpespasm, on 10/12/2007, -6/+19hmm, they updated freecell. now we know what took them so long to finish it.
- mikelieman, on 10/12/2007, -5/+17Shiny? Check.
Paint? Check.
Minesweeper? Check.
Wordpad? Check.
Wow, that's a great selection of applications to bundle with the o/s, isn't it? - wolf08, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12The funny thing is that at the moment, vista is much more of a driver hell than the mainstream linux distros (ubuntu, fedora, etc... even gentoo). ESPECIALLY if you are dealing with x86-64
- cathars1s, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13Considering that Apple just used the GNU Chess engine, I don't think all the Steve Jobs magic in the world can convince rational people that Apple is responsible for the Mac's win. Of course, the Microsoft Chess game will probably be more fun for people, since GNU Chess on it's highest difficulty level is unbeatable for most casual players.
- Uruviel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11They didn't even make the WordPad controls shiny. They are still the same as in Windows 95
- superyounan1, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12i dont feel like i'm mising much
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+16You know, it's funny. I dare say 90% of the people who are bashing Vista are only doing so because they see 'Microsoft' in the title. I actually USE Vista for day to day professional needs and I can confirm, it really kicks ass. No, switching to OS2/Linux/BeOS/OSX/ReactOS/whatever-weekly-flavour isn't an option. At the end of the day, I want to be able to use all of the applications I need and play all of the games I want. It's a huge step forward from XP, it doesn't crash (for me - I do know how to properly set up Windows) and it looks great. It has a near-perfect backwards compatibility layer - heck, even old DOS games work flawlessly for me. You mileage may vary but to be honest, I've never bought a (fully) legit copy of windows and this is the first time I will actually do so. I'm just that impressed. I still find little things in day to day use that make me go, 'Wow, that's smart'.
- skymt, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13@Ratteler "I would rather rule in hell, than serve in Vista."
So Vista is heaven? Interesting... - zakangelle, on 10/12/2007, -6/+15That green/blue gradient is hideous.
- kidjay, on 10/12/2007, -6/+15does microsoft just not get it when it comes to text? make the window look as fancy as you want, if the text still looks like garbage...there's no point. it looks like a skinned version of XP...or 2k...or 98. because they all have the same awful text.
and don't tell me about cleartype, its horrifying. - Uruviel, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11The configuration window still is a horrible mess. A terrible and horrible mess. Did I say it was not proper? It's a mess.
How on /earth/ am I supposed to find the correct preference if it's hidden under layers of ambiguously named items, clodded tabbed windows and abbreviations i've never even heard of.
The cardspace screenshot was horrible. It made my mouth fall open.
It also makes my geek heart cry to see windows still uses a filesystem that requires defragging or at least doesn't do so on the background.
I still fail to see how so much transparency would add to usability, or at least justify the usage of system resources.
Did anyone notice that all the apps had the "Windows" prefix ... personally I believe that's worst than the i prefix in iLife.
The wallpaper is horny. They've fancy-fied minesweeper. - novaworks, on 10/12/2007, -13/+21Vista - 6 years and 6 billion $ to create a sub par OSX rip off.
Remember when Win 95 was launched - you would have thought MS had found a cure for cancer, fast forward to 2007 and.....nobody is much interested. Most people will get vista when they buy a new PC = practically no additional revenue for MS. Vista will be a flop for MS there is no doubt. They'll quote how much revenue Visat brings in but the reality is 95% of that revenue they would have gotten anyway.
MS just don't get it - they spend all that cash but still they haven't figured out that having 20 different versions makes no sense.
I've always been a windows user & a few months back got a mac as a 2nd computer - it's amazing just how much better mac OS is than windows. - rauz, on 10/12/2007, -10/+18"Experience Vista" just like Europe "experienced the black plague in the mid-14th century"?
- ialan2, on 10/12/2007, -5/+12lets see who has the better AI! Steve or Bill?
- OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11[quote="Yarnage the Microtroll"]The ONLY additional DRM built into ***** Vista is part of the HD-DVD/Blu-Ray spec [/quote]
This has already been explained numerous times. Either you somehow managed to miss it repeatedly, or you are lying.
Vista's "DRM" is on all the time. It is a security system that also manages driver signatures, document permissions in Office, hardware identification and encryption ( like Bitlocker). Thus the comment above about not being able to turn it off without crippling Vista.
If you have a TPM chip, Vista's implementation of the Trusted Computing iniative (formerly called Palladium by MS & Intel) can use it to create a sort of digital ID for your system so that it can be used to verify your identity--or to track you and your documents.
People should stop calling this system in Vista DRM and call it what it is: "Trusted Computing."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trusted_computing
https://www.trustedcomputinggroup.org/home
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protected_Video_Path
http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.txt
http://www.schneier.com/crypto-gram-0208.html - Vokas, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8***** you, Bea Arthur kicks ass, and could probably kick your ass!
- thomas, on 10/12/2007, -9/+15No matter how much you polish a turd it's still a turd.
- KingLeo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Sounds like hours of fun...
- liquidc0w, on 10/12/2007, -9/+15@ estvir
While Microsoft recommends 512M, most blog sites and reviews of Vista beta testers are recommending NO LESS than 1.5G of RAM....
I dont know about you, but I find this to be absurd! C'Mon, the OS needs 1 - 1.5G of RAM for you to NOT notice it's running?!?!?
It's a HOG! - fleetskeet, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9Thread over, we have a winner.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Tho you can candy coat it and say it is a large candy and people will eat it.
- nwoolls, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Guess it just shows you how much these images don't show you:
"How on /earth/ am I supposed to find the correct preference if it's hidden under layers of ambiguously named items, clodded tabbed windows and abbreviations i've never even heard of."
By typing into the search box.
"It also makes my geek heart cry to see windows still uses a filesystem that requires defragging or at least doesn't do so on the background."
It is done in the background.
"I still fail to see how so much transparency would add to usability, or at least justify the usage of system resources."
The GPU is used, so you actually get a more responsive environment because the CPU is no longer being taxed. To each their own on opinions on the look & feel. I personally like it. - qcfb, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8"Not I," said the penguin.
- mfratt, on 10/12/2007, -10/+16"Or those who don't want to experience it!"
This was me for the longest time. Then I tried it, and its been my primary OS since November. - jxdx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I speak from experience, I've had my Powerbook G4 since Feb 2006, my computer has never crashed, haven't gotten any viruses, photoshop hasn't ever chrashed, and safari, safari just crashed today! and what's funny is that it crashed while I was trying to open BIll Gate's Webcast. Try it on your PC, see what happens.
I would post what's on the forums where people post problems they have on Windows, but I would spend 1/4 of my life on it, and it really isn't worth it :) - KingLeo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5No reasonable person can claim that Mac OSX is perfect... yet for my own experience (and many will concurr), I find OSX to work a lot better FOR ME than Windows ever did (or ever will for what I see).
You listed some legitimate problems people have with their Macs, yet if we list the problems people have with their Windows PC's... we'd be here forever.
JMHO - RobotKing, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Solitaire looks phenomenal. What? No picture of notepad?
- bkraft, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8Wait, are you telling me I can have the same look and functionality of Mac OSX without the stability or reliability?
I'm switching - justnick, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7On behalf of the people who use Linux I would like to apologize for Rattelers ignorance and just plain being a dick.
Thank you. - bkraft, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6nwools, thanks for telling us the main feature of the new Apple III series of computers.
- jsusanka, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5don't we have to agree to a EULA and sign an nda before we look at these pictures?
- Aaryn015, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I havn't even glimpsed what Vista looks like. If that makes me so behind the times in geekland, I'll take that as proof that I do still indeed have a life. Thanks for the gallery.
- benguild, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7I agree. There are a lot of kinks that I can see by just looking at the screen shots. Definitely not smooth like they say.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5almost buried, but I still dugg. haha made me laugh
- Timit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4"By typing into the search box." Having a functional search system does not mean you can have a mess of a interface. Plus user need to know what to search for in the first place.
- jxdx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6They are trying too hard to at least look like MacOS.
- quamb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I think people are bashing it here purely based off those screenshots - ie, it looks pretty ugly and a mess. Not on how it actual feels and operates.
- sfacets, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5So ugly...
- RedLion, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Ratteler: the DRM hurts performance only when playing protected media, you forgot to said that, and it's also required to play hd-dvd and blu-ray content. Let's see when your beloved Apple, that is actually backing blu-ray ( http://apple.slashdot.org/apple/05/03/11/1217236.shtml?tid=174&tid=1 ), will implement DRM in OS X too to get blu-rays to play: I'll be there laughing.
- jeffgtr, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Looks like windowblinds to me. Maybe someone will come up with a skin or something to make it look better.
- AReallyGoodName, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Yarnage,
It will be a lot more difficult to pirate anything in Vista.
All kernel mode drivers on 64bit Vista must be signed, even an administrator can't install unsigned drivers in Vista 64.
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060201-6098.html
Kernel mode is the only way for one thread to edit the memory of another thread. Game loader executables load the game in memory then edit it's code in kernel mode to remove the CD-Check without changing the executable file itself. This will no longer be possible in Vista 64.
Any drivers that fake a CD-drive must run in user mode, making it very easy for programs to detect them as a fake cd drive.
You won't be able to mess with kernel mode drivers while in user mode either, so no more hacks into 3rd party drivers to do fancy things or anything like that.
Lastly open source users won't be able to write custom kernel mode drivers anymore. - aknowles5139, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7I've been runnnig Vista for a cupple months now.. running it right now.
Although Vista runs fine with 1GB... it feels like running XP with 512MB. If you use high-end programs or games, go for 1.5-2GB. Thats based on Vista Ultimate. Im running your average number of prgrams and my 1GB of RAM is sitting at 66%.
Basically you can live with 1GB...
And to all the people that say its just a pretty XP, your very wrong. Its much more than that. My only problem is that iTunes and QuickTime arent doing good with Vista... kind of odd being Apple apps. Im sure its because they were made for XP... not Vista. - iamcool, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3And I'm supposed to be impressed?
Here is the low down. Lot's of people will think it's cool, lots of geeks will buy it, and it will ship with new PC's. Give it 6 months to a year, and it's right back to square one. Because, it's not just about looks, it's about looks AND usuability. But fret not, your new copy of Vista will come complete with a system registry, and dll's.
For those that want to go into the future, try Mac OS X 10.5, and for those in know, it'll let you go back in time, with time machine :P -
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