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- tazamore, on 10/12/2007, -8/+151It's even easier if you use Microsoft Shortcut Remover Pro Enterprise Edition which includes a shortcut delete wizard, it's own scripting language, and 234 page user manual. The next version is rumored to also allow you to rename files!
- Bitruder, on 10/12/2007, -10/+149It will make viruses easier to install since people will become so used to clicking "Confirm" boxes that they will stop reading them.
- threepio, on 10/12/2007, -27/+149My Windows computer came with a Trash folder on the drive already
C:Windows
Hiyo! - rastan, on 10/12/2007, -10/+131@mlwarrior
It's not news, it's just funny. The fact that you have to go through 7 dialog boxes just to delete a shortcut is humorous, and thus worthy of my digg. - baltakatei, on 10/12/2007, -5/+89People will just click right on through these system pop-up messages since they will be desensitized from their sheer numbers.
Install screensaver? -- Yes *click*
Are you sure? -- Yes *click*
Really sure? -- Yes! *click*
Positive? -- Just install already! *click*
Install Safe Browser? -- Yes! *click* ... ... ... Wait what? - TiMMY8765, on 10/12/2007, -23/+103The "It's beta" excuse doesn't apply here. That only works with complaints over memory leaks, crashes, bugs, etc. This looks like it was intentionally put in by the developers.
- ani-pockdotnet, on 10/12/2007, -23/+100Man thats confusing!
I'd just put everthing I wanted to throw away in a folder called "Trash" on the desktop.
Cuz its inevitable that you'll have to wipe your drive cuz of a Windows error/security hole... - TiMMY8765, on 10/12/2007, -12/+88it will be easier for viruses to install because everyone will get tired of confirmation messages and just click through them without reading.
Edit: Bitruder beat me to it - hisjap2003, on 10/12/2007, -6/+80Did you guys hear about the Microsoft Shortcut Remover Pro Enterprise Edition Plus! ? You can skin your wizard along with adding plugins. Of course you need a DX10 video card to install :(
- Takteek, on 10/12/2007, -4/+75Hah! You're still using that old thing? I have the new Microsoft Shortcut Remover Professional Team Edition with Plus XP Service Pack 9. It lets schedule shortcut deletion and has integration with Microsoft Outlook. Also, it lets you warn everyone else in your office 10 minutes in advance before you delete a shortcut in case anyone else is using it.
- Shizlak, on 10/12/2007, -14/+84This build is a few months old as evidenced by the "Step 5" screenshot (In newer builds the screen around the conformation box is darkened, in the screenshot this isn't the case)
Vista no longer acts like this. And even when it did, it wasn't mandatory. (the beta excuse is very relevant here. They are tuning the user interface and will do more tuning after beta 2 goes public and they get feedback.) In current builds shortcut deletion will work just like xp if you want it to.
All the annoying message pop-ups are from User Account Protection. ***You can easily turn it off in the control panel.*** (just like you can turn off the recycling bin, the firewall, and almost anything else you find annoying)
I'm not a Microsoft fanboy, just someone who has actually USED vista and is passing out some facts. - elpayo, on 10/12/2007, -4/+64But if you want a truly powerful shortcut remover try Microsoft Shortcut Remover Elite Enterprise Edition for Vista Service Pack A. It has a built-in spelling and grammar checker to confirm the dialog boxes are formatted correctly.
- beejay, on 10/12/2007, -11/+56I only use Windows because school/work require me to. Vista makes me want to drop out/quit.
- ViRaZ, on 10/12/2007, -3/+45How many times will you have to confirm installing Vista?
- TheComputerMutt, on 10/12/2007, -3/+42...
You can use the command line under OS X too, you know. - dorkafork, on 10/12/2007, -1/+39Unfortunately, Microsoft Shortcut Remover Elite Enterprise Media Center Commercial Special Edition for Vista Service Pack C3PO has a criticial vulnerability whereby a person can take full control of your computer by looking at it. This vulnerability, among other things, allows them to delete shortcuts immediately.
- zweben, on 10/12/2007, -7/+43"How will confirming something 5 times make virus installation easier?"
Because people will either click through the verify boxes without reading them, or find a way to disable them.
If it were just one box though, people would probably read it and any important information it may hold. - CypherXero, on 10/12/2007, -4/+35Recursive! Are you insane!? For God's sake, I hope you don't do that as root...idiot.
- slicedoranges, on 10/12/2007, -9/+39For schoolwork, use OpenOffice.org. It is a very good of Microsoft Office alternative. It can also save your document files as Microsoft Office files. You can get OpenOffice.org for Linux and Mac, too. Go to http://www.openoffice.org for downloads. Of course, it's entirely free and open source.
- greatclare, on 10/12/2007, -8/+38Yeah, and both Canada and Apples are better and more friendly than the US and PCs :)
- Urusai, on 10/12/2007, -1/+30Sounds like making yourself a full access administrator will be more popular than ever.
- Pogue_Mahone, on 10/12/2007, -3/+32If you can wait until Q2 2007, Microsoft Shortcut Remover Elite Enterprise Media Center Edition for Vista Service Pack B1 (Beta), you'll be able to set up a wizard that will create an RSS feed for your blog of every shortcut you delete. WGA product activation will be required though.
- brentcore, on 10/12/2007, -6/+34My eyes are tearing up and I'm laughing my ass off at you guys! XD funniest comments in digg history! Gold star for each of you!
- brentcore, on 10/12/2007, -4/+32Does anyone remember those old Amelia Bedelia books back in elementary school? Where Amelia would take advice from people and take it way overboard, totally misunderstanding the point of the advice? Sort of reminds me of Microsoft's response to the security community. sorry for the nostalgia.... :( to be young again....
- dono169, on 10/12/2007, -36/+63How will confirming something 5 times make virus installation easier?
And, Windows, also, allows dragging to the trash.
fanboys... - ProphetSix, on 10/12/2007, -6/+32Microsoft - You're got questions, we've got dancing paperclips.
- snooo, on 10/12/2007, -10/+34The solution to this would be...
Click "Delete shortcut"... Dialog box politly notifies that the shortcut was owned by the system, and to be deleted will require authorisation in one go. Give authorisation. Done.
But, as a Ubuntu user, one hopes they keep the merry go round... - TheNik, on 10/12/2007, -7/+30It's because it's a system shortcut. If you have a shortcut for a game or text file on the desktop and try to delete it it works fine.
- ZombieNixon, on 10/12/2007, -3/+25I guess this is what passes for 'secure' in Vista.
Of course if people find it to annoying and turn it off Microsoft can turn around and say its not their fault the OS isn't secure. - stoanhart, on 10/12/2007, -2/+23best... comment thread... ever!
- stealthboy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+22Remember, Windows 95 was more secure than 3.1 because it asked for a password. It must be secure!
Anyways, people will get so sick of these things they'll just keep clicking OK until they go away. Yeah, that's a great way to build in security and safety for the user.
/Mac user
//Linux user - cpmoser, on 10/12/2007, -3/+21This vaguely reminds me of when, back around 1996 or so, Microsoft placed a shortcut for IE on the desktop named "The Internet". Putting the shortcut into the trash promptly brought up the dialog, "Are you sure you want to delete The Internet?"
- kimos, on 10/12/2007, -4/+22Anyone who says they're switching to mac is a liar?
Guess I'm a liar too. I dropped windows, but wasn't ready to have a linux only household. I'm typing this from my brand new MacBook Pro! You should try it. Best computer decision I've ever made... - zetsurin, on 10/12/2007, -7/+25HOW THE HELL DID YOU GET OUT OF YOUR CAGE? BACK YOU GO.
- zweben, on 10/12/2007, -6/+24So you think bringing up the command line, typing rm -rf + the path and name of the file is easier than just clicking on it and pressing Command + Delete in OS X?
I hope you were being sarcastic. - mateo60, on 10/12/2007, -4/+20Well, I happen to be typing this on my spanking new MacBook. It's my first ever Apple computer. (I was a loyal Dos 4.0 through Win XP user until now)
- cecil_t, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16Why would you do a recursive delete on a single file? rm -rf is for removing directory trees. If you're using a linux desktop you could also just select the shortcut on your desktop and press the delete button and watch it go directly to trash, or shift-delete with one confirmation to permanently delete. No need to open a terminal.
- elpayo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17Well, you can rm -rf in the OSX Terminal app if you want as well.
- nrbelex, on 10/12/2007, -4/+19If you do it right the first time (i.e. - don't install it), none...
- deadbaby, on 10/12/2007, -3/+17This is a great example of why an operating system must be developed with security as a main goal from day one. You cannot go back 15 years later and duct tape on some security wizards and dialog boxes and expect a high level of security OR usability.
- eosp, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15No, you still have to go through the "are you sure?" boxes.
- DaffyDuck, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14Damn, you guys got the Windows Xperience nailed! Well done!
- astrosmash, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14I've said it before and I'll say it again: NEXTSTEP's application and framework bundles are a far better way to abstract the file system than Windows' (and Gnome's and KDE's) Program Groups/Shortcuts/Start Menu scheme.
Go back and read that first warning dialog again (it's present in Win2K and XP as well). It basically says "You've reached the point at which the Windows desktop abstraction completely breaks down. Sorry."
Windows has always had its good points and its bad points, but it's a shame that even in 2006, Microsoft's latest and greatest (and long overdue) operating system is still plagued by 16 year-old design blunders. (That's not to say that everything that old is bad. NEXTSTEP is 17 years old, after all.) - DanielYH, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14but it's a "shortcut", it shouldnt be so hard.
- PathDaemon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14Have none of you tried OpenShortcut?
Free, open source, and much more configurable than MSR. - HeaDiggrNCharge, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17The beta get that ***** fixed!
- invader, on 10/12/2007, -4/+16some schools assign work in programs other than word/excel/ppt.. when i was in college, we got 3 or more windows applications for audio-related tasks, windows 3d modeling software, m$ vi$io, and of course, a laptop with xp homeless pre-installed
granted, you could get equal or better applications on other platforms, but for "hands-on" training, you're supposed to have the exact app that the teacher is certified with.... i've noticed a lot of college students stuck in the same situation, where the school is pwned my m$ and that's all they teach the kids.. it's kinda sad - stealthboy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14How about just deleting something when I hit delete? Sometimes simpler is actually better.
- Azio, on 10/12/2007, -8/+19This issue was solved in build 5365. No digg.
- digga, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12@palmer
You said: "Uh, yeah. Try highlighting stuff on your desktop and pressing Delete. What happens? NOTHING. So go ahead, put 8 miles a day on your mouse dragging stuff to the trash."
Try hitting Command-Delete. What happens? Selected files/folders get moved to the trash. Simple! -
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