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- Tyrax, on 10/12/2007, -10/+55keep it in the apple section buddy, nobody likes you in the working world
- 1jaxstate1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13I've never had a problem with the WM user interface. It's pretty intuitive and well organized.
- WiZZLa, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12quoting surur on Engadget :
" 1) Encrypted storage, means losing your device does not mean your e-mail attachments on your SD card gets exposed.
2) New Internet sharing app turns your phone into a bluetooth internet access point.
3) Windows Update means security updates can now be pushed to devices.
4) Better and faster Pocket Internet Explorer with better DHTML and full screen mode.
5) search your 12 GB exchange server mailbox from your device.
6) Shortcut keys in Pocket IE, easier e-mail setup with g-mail and yahoo mail etc using wizards which get their settings from an internet database.
7) Better one-handed usage.
8) Better memory management. "
That's on top of the features already present in WM5; sounds pretty functional to me. - Phantastica, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11I'm comparing the screens to my Dash and it looks very much the same. I guess we shouldn't expect a big leap forward here. Hopefully they've added a "Mark all messages as read" option for email though.
- Cronus6, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9My Windows Mobile (2003 Audiovox smt5600) has never frozen, nor missed a call.
Perhaps it's your hardware and/or carrier rather than the OS? - Metalstorm808, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8idandfei calm down its just a phone. You must be a big apple fanboy.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6omg it looks totally different from my WM5-enabled Q. Wow, this will be a huge switch...
- MrKite, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6idandfei, have you ever used an iPhone?
- manitoba98xp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Why is "Windows Green Theme" an important update? :p
(I know, a bug fix probably, j/k) - snipes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@undersky
First, the iPhone is not out yet, and I have yet to see any 'success' since it's 'release'...
Secondly, Blackberry's success comes from the fact that they are only really popular in corporate environments, and many people who have it there are forced to use it because their employer doesn't want to invest in anything other than the technology and company they've been using for 10+ years. Not to say that they don't have good UIs though.
But WM5 is not hard to use at all. Some people may get intimidated because they've never seen WINDOWS on a PHONE, but it's nothing serious. But if you've been using any Windows OS for a decent amount of time, I'd say it'll become pretty maneuverable. Start button...That's it. The soft keys are pretty self explanatory. And let's try and replace this word 'baggage' with a more sensible word...how about 'applications'. Just because you don't use an app doesn't make it 'baggage'.
And I've NEVER seen a stylus big enough to be used with two hands.... - surfing, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Why didn't they use some screen capture software (like GetPDAScreen) to get these?
- badbrain, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2A quick note on Motorola Q's interface/UI/OS. The Q runs Windows CE SmartPhone edition, which is designed to utilize navigation buttons rather than touch-screen. The experience is quite a bit different if you had, say, the Palm 700w (which runs Window CE PocketPC Phone edition or what is going to be known as Standard edition with CE 6). The Apple iPhone makes heavy use of touch-screen enabled UI; so, I don't think you can compare it to Q. On that note, I dislike Window CE SmartPhone edition. I don't see much of a value to a PDA-like device (given the price point for such devices) that don't have touch-screen. I tried Windows SmartPhone 2003 (Motorola M??220) for about a week, before I swapped it for a Palm 650 (running PalmOS 5.4). But, I've been working on a Windows CE 6 hardware project, and I think my next PDA/Phone device will be Mobile 6 enabled. I'm not considering the iPhone at this time, because it seem like only a privileged few will have the ability to develop native applications. But, I hope Apple reconsiders.
Speaking of being developer friendly, I believe Windows (CE) Mobile 6 will include .NET framework!!! - bashfulczar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2That's funny you can make claims on a device that has yet to see the light of day in public hands.
- EagleTG, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I'm with 'ajck' on this one. Never been impressed by anything Microsoft when it comes to smartphones.
- BxBoy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Looks a lot like WM5..
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4Listen all you pro-WM6 monkey boyz. As someone who works with top people in the mobile industry worldwide, let me just tell you: WM has NO respect. Over here in Europe it is a joke to be laughed at. Really. You guys need to "get with the program" and realise this. MS don't have a chance in the mobile phone world. NOT A CHANCE. The enlightened ones amongst you have already seen the light by adopting Symbian, or something else. iPhone does look promising - possibly, but there are still some serious caveats there for big time success (like opening up to developers etc.).
Mark my words. WM is another Gizmondo.
Cheers - mapkinase, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I am not impressed with the pictures. Does it have the ability to enter hard pauses into phone numbers? I had the feature on my $0 LG phone several years ago before I ditched it for i730.
- gregrich, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Ok first off this is coming from a Mac user, and I like WM on my T-Mobile MDA. The push email with Exchange is great and if Exchange is not your thing you can always use Zimbra. My phone has never frozen up on me; now mind you I don't load a bunch of today screen plugins and useless software. I use it as a phone, for email and to browse the web and for that it works perfectly. On the MDA battery life is good, with normal use it gets at least two days. The other night I upgraded it to Windows Mobile 6 and I must say I am impressed, the phone is noticeably faster, and the UI is a lot nicer. The integration with Windows Live is nice although I prefer the newly released Google Maps application. BxBoy it looks nothing like WM5; the default theme is a lot more rounded whereas WM5 was flat and icons are lot more color full and 3d as opposed to flat and drab. As for the iPhone the thing looks wonderful; but there are a few things it need to have before I will even consider it; one being I can buy it outright as opposed to using AT&T wireless, two that it support Exchange Push, three it can at least open Word and Excel file, and four that I can load up third part apps. Again this is coming from a Mac user.
- hadak, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3imho, it's gorgeous. a much needed upgrade from wm5
- SwellGuy007, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@ajck
Dude, it just pictures of an operating system. You're gonna be OK. - Yarnage, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@playerZero
I've never had an alert obscure the clock on my Treo 700wv or on my Dell Axim or on my old ass HP pocket PC..... is your screen insanely small or something? Also, why are you saying there is no alarm? It's built into the OS and you have 3 of them! They're located in the Settings.
I also have no idea what you're talking about with an OK button on the volume... I've never seen that on a windows mobile device. - MrKite, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2If you're having a difficult time navigating around a WM 5 device, I'd have to say that you have the mentality of a sea monkey. Even my 5 year old son has no problem using a smart phone.
- zephc, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1haha http://www.engadget.com/gallery/windows-mobile-6-standard-in-pictures/154585/
Direct Push? Is that anything like regular Push? ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Push_technology ) Makes sense for a mobile device I suppose, but doesn't beat an actual connection. - OmegaNine, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I hope it doesn't come with the .net framework. Everything i install that uses the .net is a memory hog, and with only 64 megs of RAM, i don't like it.
- hexydes, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Just because you can get used to it though, doesn't mean it is good, or intuitive; it just means that you've figured out how to deal with the shortcomings. It's true that you can't really say for sure that the iPhone is intuitive (unless you've used it, which I'm assuming none of us in this thread have at this point), but having used Windows Mobile 5 for 6 months now, I can say with confidence, it is most definitely NOT the most intuitive design ever made, and a lot can (and should) be done to improve upon a good start for a foundation.
- hexydes, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2@1jaxstate1: I just think it is very cluttery, but that is going to be personal opinion, so never right or wrong. ;)
@cronus6: I had thought so too, until I looked around and started seeing similar complaints from other users, who had different hardware. Keep in mind this is Windows Mobile 5, so maybe it is different on Windows Mobile 2003?
@undersky: I think that was very well stated, and probably where I was coming from.
Also, too bad I was dugg down; I thought I tried to stay pretty neutral and state that there were some things that I liked about the system. Oh well. :( - Googs, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Where can I get this rom for the Dash? Any link would be great.
- SwellGuy007, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1This is quite a bit cleaner looking than WM 5. A nice improvement.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Looks like ***** to me. Last last thing Microsoft needs to make is another crap ass OS. They didn't get it right the first 5 times what makes them think they can get it right this time. They should just give up and leave this to the professionals and no its not Microsoft.
- donnydarko319, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0They should've added cascading menus. It would've made it much easier to use, imo.
- Wcain, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0Wow it appears to be the Iphone. I bet it had vista or should i say OS X
- anamanaman, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1Pretty bland, same as WM5. Been using a 6700 for the last year and half and I dont really see any major changes. They need to redo the whole damn thing if they have any chance to compete against whats coming out from Symbian, Blackberry, and Apple.
- undersky, on 10/12/2007, -8/+3WM is not intuitive at all. Stylus needs two hand operation, the new click wheel support is much better. The OS is really slow compares to BlackBerry. Layers of menu and options are based on the Windows OS + Mouse philosophy. BlackBerry and iPhone's success is that their GUI do not have baggage from their successful OSs...they didn't design their GUIs from an existing product (namely Windows OS), so they have a GUI that's perfect for Mobile interface (one-hand, quick reponsive, phone-centric, big buttons, uncluttered space...). When MS designed Windows Mobile, it based on their existing philosophy so you have a lot of baggage from making it a similar experience as using a mouse on a Windows OS. This is not a wise GUI for a phone
- playerZero, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1Hmmm... actually i think i've seen enough of the iPhone to be pretty confident that its interface is a bajillion times better than my Motorola Q (Windows Mobile 5). The Windows Mobile UI (at least up to now) is crap. Any alert obscures the clock, there's no alarm (only calendar events), everything has an "ok" button you have to click past (ex: turning up the volume while on a call). It's pretty bad... The device is badass. The OS is kinda clunky. The UI is complete crap.
- 1jaxstate1, on 10/12/2007, -9/+1I've been using Windows mobile 2003 for some time now, and I like it. It plays videos, music, takes pictures and video. The intergration with XP is very good. But I'm leaning toward a iPhone for my next purchase.
- hexydes, on 10/12/2007, -11/+3Microsoft's UI for Windows Mobile is too cluttered, like they had a list of 200 features, and just threw them into a box for you to sort through when you want to use something.
To contrast, Apple's (proposed, since it doesn't exist yet) UI for the iPhone appears to be very well thought out, organized, and intuitive. I get very anxious (in a bad way) when looking at the UI for Windows Mobile, conversely, when I look at the iPhone's UI, it just seems like everything is where it logically should be.
That said, I think that Windows Mobile does have a lot of great features, and if they can:
a) fix the bugs (freezing, sound issues, missing calls, etc)
b) re-vamp the UI to something more intuitive
then their platform could very easily compete with the iPhone's.
Before you digg me down, keep in mind this is coming from someone who has a phone with Windows Mobile on it currently, and thinks it is (at present) the best thing out there. It is leaps and bounds above the trash interface/functionality included on most phones; there is just a long way to go still, especially with Apple's upcoming offering. - josegutz, on 10/12/2007, -10/+1ok...
- MixMastaMetal, on 10/12/2007, -18/+3It looks purity, but doesn't look very functional.
- idandfei, on 10/12/2007, -53/+8@tyrax: Has nothing to do with apple "buddy" I'm a windows administrator, and that has nothing to do with it either. Windows Mobile always has been, and always will (for the foreseeable future) be ass. There are way better alternatives. The IPhone running OSX will soon be one of them.
- idandfei, on 10/12/2007, -81/+8Guy #1: Hi, I'm a Windows Mobile Device.
Guy #2: And I'm an IPhone.
Guy #1: I suck ass, and have a ***** UI.
Guy #2: I don't...and I don't.
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