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- slsanity, on 10/12/2007, -2/+41Firefox 2.0:
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/663/picture1zb5.png
Firefox 3.0 "GranParadiso":
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/912/picture2sa2.png
Safari:
http://img485.imageshack.us/img485/4221/picture4hd3.png
Internet Explorer 7 running under Parallels:
http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/7531/picture3qy6.png
Both XP and OS X have font smoothing set:
OS X: Medium
XP: Cleartype - Machine, on 10/12/2007, -5/+38You obviously cared enough to bother submitting a comment. Could you go off somewhere else and not care more quietly?
- jayhawk, on 10/12/2007, -9/+38firefox has themes. try em.
- MrSpontaneous, on 10/12/2007, -3/+32According to the FF site:
"Cocoa Widgets are now used in OS X builds" - FunkyWitDaSysTm, on 10/12/2007, -6/+22but is it STABLE?
- puggy, on 10/12/2007, -6/+16No, it still uses the ugly windows-style widgets. Also, window resizing and scrolling is very slow as it does a lot of redrawing.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -16/+26does it have native aqua buttons? I hate these windowsy buttons (even on linux).
- jiub, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Why don't any of these articles ever have pictures. I dont' have a mac but would still like to see what it looks like.
Can anyone flickr a screenshot? - deadlierchair, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Alright, this time it will work.
2.0 BonEcho build
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/6428/picture1ed9.png
3.0 Alpha
http://img481.imageshack.us/img481/7244/picture2nf7.png - mark1372, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11Nope, just tried it. Still the blocky grey PCish icons.
- VeganG, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8@slsanity:
Thanks for the comparisons.
Personally, they all look fine to me... - frofro, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6FF3 uses the Cairo library which outputs using Quartz in OS X.
- Asheron, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7You know, firefox is a great browser for both windows and linux. Its my first choice when I use those machines and normally one of the first things I install. But to be honest I really see no reason for switching to it on my mac. Safari does everything I need and with a small expansion I gain mouse gestures.
I think firefox is going to have to offer something truly impressive to pull many mac users like myself away from safari in order to give it a go. Part of that is fitting into the system as a whole (the aqua feel) and part of that would be having substantially better features for a basic enduser.
*edit*
And apparently one of those features would be telling me when I was accidently in a reply column. *kicks self* ah well. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6You can get an extension that will make any extension work called Nightly tester tools:
https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1391/ - fahrvergnuugen, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7You act as if you have to ditch FF2 in order to "install" it.
- murph, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5See Jon Hicks' blog for more details and screenshots:
http://www.hicksdesign.co.uk/journal/cairo-beats-safari
Trunk builds of Camino are also using Cairo: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/camino/nightly/latest-trunk/. This was a big change, so there are many regressions/bugs with page rendering at the moment, but this will continue to improve. Helping out by reporting and testing issues is a great way to get involved with Firefox or Camino. - blackjack75, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I bet when he's on the street and he sees a beautiful girl he jumps on her and shouts "I DON'T CARE about you! .... Yeah, yeah, ignore me if you want, bitch"
- stmiller, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4This is a heck of a way to get lots of bug testers. :)
- hifiDesign, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6@ avihappy: Use firefoxy — http://www.amake.us/software/firefoxy/
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Curious to try this but would like feedback of anyone who has tried it before I do. /wuss
- bryxal, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4More to the point this will only make it so that the extension says it will work.(change the version numbers) it doesn't nessesarily mean it will work.... only that it'll try
- digga, on 10/12/2007, -7/+10Wow, that's clever the way you joined crap and apple. You should be very proud of what you've achieved here today.
- gusx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5so... Is it quartz or cairo?
- pardonator, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4http://static.flickr.com/138/319785106_501880d8a0_o.jpg
Screeny
It makes my mbp crawl though - colincornaby, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Just a nitpick, font smoothing and CoreImage are not related. Font smoothing has been around a long time, since OS 10.0. CoreImage is for image altering, and was only introduced in 10.4. FF3 doesn't actually use CoreImage. Which is a good thing considering CoreImage does not run so great on older machines. :)
- gometro33, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Because the article was about how text is rendered better (which it is), not how FF3 uses OSX widgets.
- FunkyWitDaSysTm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4@me
yes, it seems sorta stable, but those buttons! they look worse that the default windowsy ones in FF2! and my extensions! my pretty, wonderful extensions!
yeah, not going to be an early adopter just yet... good work for Alpha 1. let's see what Alpha 2 has to offer... - aviazn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2If you really want Aqua-ish buttons, try these optimized Mac builds:
http://www.beatnikpad.com/archives/2006/10/26/firefox-20 - FunkyWitDaSysTm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2honeslty, there's nothing to see. just a few elements seem to pick up 1px in width (like borders around buttons and text fields).
that's really all i've noticed. - digga, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4It's worse than that - a lot of borders seem to have been given an extra pixel. Some 2px borders end up as 3px on many pages I've visited. Hmm. (Yes, I know it's alpha!)
- magicmarc, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4I'd install it if I knew my extentions would continue to work.
- weareglass, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Seems to add a little kerning to everything, which makes it harder to do side-by-side comparison of the individual letters.
- dAbReAkA, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2too unusable at this stage.. sometimes the pages are too messed up when rendered.. the text becomes unreadable.. switched back to 2.0
"The Cairo graphics system has drastically changed the way all text and images are rendered from previous versions of Gecko, so occasional misrenderings of non-latin scripts and fonts may occur."
"Font decorations such as underline and strikethrough may be drawn incorrectly." - experienced that one too.. - bmeckel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2same! i reported it, and the whole thing is pretty glitchy, so i would stick with ff2 till this comes out in a beta release
- doodlebumm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2About text rendering....
The Windows and Linux versions (2.x) already have the more advanced text rendering, right? I have noticed that the Linux version seems to look noticeably clearer than the Windows version. Anyone know why? Am I just not seeing things right? I'm using 2.0 of each. - pardonator, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2So it does rcran, how weird.
It doesn't look any different though (firefox) - rcran, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4I am using it right now, and when I mouse over the links on the digg homepage, it highlights everything but the last two characters.
- 2L84ME, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2How 'bout Linux (Ubuntu in particular) as well:
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/6226/screenshotdiggallmozilllz2.png - doodlebumm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Hey, that actually made a big difference. They seem much more similar now. I thought I had ClearType turned on, but I figured I better check. Turns out it was turned off.
So why is ClearType turned off by default in Windows? Does it slow the system down considerably? I don't see that it is a great performance killer. I realize that XP is 2001 technology, and Linux is 2006 technology, but one would think that a recent version of XP (computer purchased 3 months ago), and with the "glorious windows updates" that this would be more the standard..... - bryxal, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5Dammit i'll have to move my reply now
- Xilon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1but does it use Linux (GTK/QT) widgets?
- Xilon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Apparently Firefox 3 was supposed to support native widgets for Linux and I think Mac OSX.
For Mac OSX there's always beatnikpad's custom builds (also optimised for intel) which have cocoa widgets, but I doubt that 3.0a1 will be released... - tomee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@digga
According to a major german tech news site, the latest nightly build fully passes the ACID2 test, which the alpha release still fails at. Maybe there are still problems as they were upgrading the rendering engine.
source for german speakers:
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/82340 - RedZeppelin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Who cares how it looks? 2.0 looks fine to me. I just want to know if it's faster.
- DVRDude, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Lynx is still pretty fast! (If you don't like pictures, Java, YouTube, etc)
- mrgr2mm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Damned if I can tell the difference between those PNGs. I can't believe anyone would bother.
- andrewguy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Camino FTW@!$!
- marcushe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1USE CAMINO ALREADY!!!!
- zopu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'm guessing that maybe you haven't enabled ClearType support for all applications in windows. The setting is buried somewhere in the windows display settings.
- iFrank, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2This article sounds like it was written by a first grader.
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