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- voisine, on 10/11/2007, -2/+34I used to work for a spam filtering company... the problem with that approach is that many foreign character sets include US-ASCII as a subset, so quite often you'll have people with some foreign character set as their default happily sending emails in english without ever noticing. We weighted false positives about 100 times worse than a missed spam.
- sneeka2, on 10/11/2007, -3/+30I receive tons of Japanese and Russian spam, and ALL of it goes into my spam folder automatically, while all the legitimate Japanese mails I receive get into my inbox. Gmail obviously does filter other languages and it works fine for me. Perhaps these guys need to train it more?
- alamody, on 10/11/2007, -3/+29Easy Fix, Next time a Russian porn site asks for a email give a fake one.
- superpixel, on 10/11/2007, -3/+19Apparently those messages have been warning us of impending doom for years. Something about a bypass...
- felyduw, on 10/11/2007, -1/+13You don't have an e-mail address, do you?
- nubtard, on 10/11/2007, -2/+11I wish the spam folder wouldn't be in bold every time spam arrives. What's the point of that? "LOOK THERE'S SPAM HERE - WE MADE IT BOLD JUST SO THAT IT WOULD STAND OUT!"
- TiMMY8765, on 10/11/2007, -3/+12but then if they find out they track you down and put polonium in your food
- XIUgraag, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7Welcome to the internet, where it is possible to spoof any e-mail address since SMTP has been created.
- oslointhesummer, on 10/11/2007, -18/+24dig me down baby
- Four20, on 10/11/2007, -6/+11cause they're just so 'evil'. . .man im tired of people complaining about google, let alone complaining about /free services/
- PabloEscobar666, on 10/11/2007, -4/+9What does "Foreign language" mean? non-English?
- philz, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5I wish the money invested in spam solutions would be invested in death squads, who're on a search and destroy all spammers mission.
- cankillar, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4...it's a joke? I didn't know that. I just really want them to go away. I get them a lot.
- ibjhb, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6Don't be so shortsighted. The author wants an option in GMail to filter any "foreign language", i.e. any language he specifies as foreign.
Honestly, you don't have to be one of those diggers that trips over himself to point out that the Internet isn't only in America. - Stricker, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Foreign is not a word affiliated with the internet.
- AxsDeny, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4voisine is right. For example, the russian letter "d" (д) is in the cyrillic superset, but just not in the english alphabet subset. These characters are legitimate parts of the ascii set. Don't blame Google, blame the RFC.
- undersky, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4the above spam email is not from China but from Taiwan.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -19/+22I'd like to filter messages in the fictitious language 'American English'.
a) Because it's from an American
b) Color? Flavor? What kind of idiot spells words like that? - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -3/+6...can't spell BEGGARS?
- steste, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3 Send spam to trash. Instead of having Gmail-filtered spam go into your Spam folder (and have the annoying count of unread spam by the folder’s name), set up a filter with “is:spam” in the “has the words” field (just click “OK” on Gmail’s warning dialog box when you click next step) and “Delete it” as the action. Now all spam messages will go in your trash.
- Spacemanspif, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4Sure it does. Having the spam filter on is not mandatory, neither would a language filter. Also, google could look for a high percentage of words from a particular language, or a low percentage of words from your language. You could choose what languages you want to filter, and what languages you don't. If I get an email that is all in spanish (which i seem to get a lot of lately) then I don't care if it is spam or not (it is), I cannot read it and I don't want to read it.
- Error601, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Are there actually gmail zeolots that want to ignore facts? Absolutely amazing.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3"Why won't Gmail let you filter out email in foreign languages?"
Because I buy stuff on ebay from Chinese people!
Cheap and fast payment you can't beat the Chinese - overkil6, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2I think Gmail does a great job overall. Compare it to Hotmail and their floodgate setup: Let everything in or only mail from personal contacts.
- pyry, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4Yeah. I'm pretty glad it doesn't just filter things based on language. I mean, English isn't all I speak.
- FluffyArmada, on 10/11/2007, -6/+7I get no spam.
- Beercoder, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3What if you have a Japaneses client or a Russian coder working for you? What if they want to send you a legitimate mail in foreign language?
The story doesnt make any sense. - mapkinase, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1It does it automatically. I know 3 languages and I receive my gmail only in those three languages.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I love getting spam and I love it especially from strange foreign countries and since moving to gmail I have been getting considerably less interesting mail mostly from friends and family, but the other day I got something from china about nicotine sticks and how smoking is bad for you adn that was kind of interesting. I notice that Google's translator works better with Chinese than Japanese, too.
- astanhope, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Excellent question. You'd think after awhile they'd figure out that the Russian and Hebrew stuff is spam. I must confess, however, that I have been receiving far LESS spam through GMAIL in the last 4 weeks or so than I was previously. I think they have been doing better and better.
- SteveMax, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1For me, the top offending language is English. Most spam I get is in English (I'm Brazilian); however, a language-based filter would do no good, since I also get a lot of legitimate email in English.
I think these people just need to train their filters more. Spam mail has similar characteristics, no matter what language it's written in; a well-trained filter will catch them. Just give it more time and information. - BobTurtle, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Try reading the article you stupid *****. The author is asking that users be given the ability to optionally filter out messages based on character encoding, not for Gmail to blindly block all emails that aren't written in English. I am honestly surprised at the depths of stupidity displayed by some Diggers every time I come here.
- batmant, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1How about why can't you filter by contact group?
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Filtering on foreign languages and having filters that can still work despite html tags are two things port page/email providers have long dragged their feet on.
- betona, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I run my own custom spam filters on our family's domain, and one of the things it does is check the IP where the mail actually came from (not the forged return address) and scores mail from a number of countries way high; and it's very effective. The current top offenders in alphabetical order are Argentina, Brazil, China, France, Germany, Poland, South Korea, Russia, Thailand and Turkey (but I see plenty of other countries).
Meanwhile, my GMail box gets hundreds of spams in Spanish every week. All Spanish. - CoreBurn, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Mark them as spam that way you're at least helping to train the filter.
- sanj0hn, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1And give a temporary email (spaml.com) if the russian porn site needs confirmation...
- SiRwhilms, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2I think we found John Dvorak's digg account.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2its so easy to fix it shouldnt be long
- michaeltime, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1All I get is Portuguese spam. On the plus side its simple to spot.
- carlosgames, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0well, this works just right for me here, I receive mail with Spanish chars into my inbox and real spam is filtered just right...
- Lightspeed2, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2cuz google would rather take time giving your personal information/search logs to the government than developing that
- np374, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2"USA, USA, USA, USA"
-Homer Simpson - Error601, on 10/11/2007, -4/+3Gmail does such a great job it's basically pointless to send email to a gmail account from your personal or small business domain. They're eliminating the small operator with that filter. Even worse is no reason is given why something was marked as spam, and they don't provide decent guidelines for sending legitimate email.
- Lyanto, on 10/11/2007, -5/+4@PJBonoVox
Way to be ethnocentric. People who spoke Latin probably thought the same thing about the people who would eventually develop Spanish, Italian, and French. America is separated by thousands of miles of ocean so we began to crop up minor inconsistencies in writing and accent, so what? Who gives a ***** if someone doesn't add a u after their o's? - ibjhb, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1Why not?
- HiddenForce, on 10/11/2007, -7/+5The things is, I don't *want* Gmail to filter foreign language emails because I receive (and send) legitimate emails with Chinese in them. Not all mail from China is spam, and I will quit using Gmail the moment it blanketly deems any foreign language email *is* spam, because it will have become useless to me as communications tool.
- thepolkapunk, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1Oh jeez... Thanks a lot! I never got a single piece of spam that was in a foreign language! Now that this gets out, I'll start getting a million a day!
- ColinTheStrange, on 10/11/2007, -5/+2Well, recently, I've been getting these messages in Portuguese which appear to be from Gmail itself. The e-mail address is from Gmail, and in the inbox the e-mail address is replaced with "Gmail." From my knowledge of the Portuguese (the only word I know is "não") it was saying "attention!", then explaining what spam and viruses are, then saying my Gmail account will be canceled. It's quite strange. On my AOL e-mail account (which I would cancel, but my mom uses hers so I still have one) I constantly get Chinese spam, which usually does end up filtered into my spam mail box, but I get almost none of it through Gmail ever.
- simplejoe79, on 10/11/2007, -4/+1I will go with goodoldjacob's reply......
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