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- gweedo767, on 11/13/2007, -7/+654This is just great. If someone can block ads in FF, they are probably smart enough to do it in Opera and IE as well. On top of that, they are probably smart enough to install User-Agent Switcher too.
How about we just send them a little extra traffic today to help their bandwidth bill? - mindless2, on 11/13/2007, -55/+630http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/6039/2004ftf4.jpg
Haha check out the guy who runs this.
Oh No, we are stealing! Hey buddy, I hate to tell you but people who block adds aren't going to start clicking on them if they have to view them. Chances are they will just go to a different site, or change the useragent so it looks like they are using internet explorer. Plus, most adds are crap anyways, so why click them? - cheesexbro, on 11/13/2007, -4/+474Too bad there's a plug-in for IE7 that has numerous features--one of them actually being ad blocking. http://www.ie7pro.com/ OH NOS I GUESS WE GOTTA BLOCK IE7 TOO NOW!!!
- sandymac, on 11/13/2007, -5/+394http://whyinternetexplorerisblocked.com/
- mrfreeziexp, on 10/10/2007, -3/+388He should just block all browsers. That way nothing can happen to him that might be unfair.
- AnteChronos, on 11/13/2007, -6/+360This guy's reasoning is kind of funny (and often wrong):
"Software that blocks all advertisement is an infringement of the rights of web site owners and developers."
Like hell it is! That's like claiming that changing the channel on my TV during commercials is an infringement of the rights of the networks, or that having a friend cut all the advertisements out of a magazine for me is an infringement of the rights of the publisher.
"Numerous web sites exist in order to provide quality content in exchange for displaying ads. Accessing the content while blocking the ads, therefore would be no less than stealing."
You have *got* to be kidding me! Stealing?! Better not change the station on the radio when commercials come up, buddy. Wouldn't want to be a thief, would you?
"Demographics have shown that not only are FireFox users a somewhat small percentage of the internet, they actually are even smaller in terms of online spending"
But we're much bigger in terms of technical know-how. Let me introduce you to my good friend, the user-agent switcher. - ToastPop, on 04/17/2009, -36/+259It just looks like a happy family to me.
You don't need to go attacking the guy personally, that's just stupid and immature. I'm sure you are no supermodel either. - Piedramente, on 11/13/2007, -5/+214So not viewing an ad is stealing? I guess all those people who use the restroom during a commercial are stealing too.
- EXTER, on 11/13/2007, -2/+205Just use the User Agent Switcher extension
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/59 - zomgtehpwn, on 11/13/2007, -17/+207You know what I say to people who refuse to find a new way to bring in revenue from their site and lose money because people block their ads? GOOD. I don't care if you make money or not. DISAPPEAR. I'll find somewhere else to get my entertainment (even if it requires going outside). It really does not matter to me in the slightest if you can't afford to keep your site running anymore.
You didn't make money off of ads when you first started the site, so what makes you think you're entitled to continue making money as the times change and people start blocking ads? Because you have a family to feed? I DON'T CARE. Go get a job at Starbucks. Work a job you can't stand the majority of us have to. - hyperfocal, on 10/10/2007, -4/+172More likely he blocks Firefox because it's easier to install malware through IE.
- inactive, on 11/13/2007, -4/+166dont worry, if they want to block you for that reason then the site is not worth visiting.
- inactive, on 11/13/2007, -3/+162Sorry sir... you can't drive that car. Why? Well... it has a really powerful engine and would make a great getaway car for bank heists. So you see... we can't let you drive it.
- Salgat, on 10/29/2007, -5/+160I'd rather have more visitors, even if they don't click my ads, for the simple fact that more traffic ultimately means more IE and non-adblocker Firefox users being referred there and generating revenue.
- EricJ2190, on 10/10/2007, -2/+143The people who go through the trouble to block ads are probably not the kind of people who would click on the ads in the first place.
- inactive, on 11/13/2007, -7/+138Ugh.
I think people forget the meaning of "thieves" and "stealing" - hell, people still try using that in the argument of whether or not copying music is bad.
You see, stealing implies that I take something from someone and that they no longer have this item to use. I walk into a store, take a CD, now the store can't sell the CD and loses money. See that?
In this case, if you have a site that is publicly accessible, then there's NO obligation on our part whatsoever that we HAVE to look at ads. None. If I'm not paying for a membership for your site, it's free.
Just like when commercials on TV, you either flip away or walk out of the room.
You wanna host a site and get something back for it? That's your own problem, not ours. Don't try pushing responsibility to your visitors or you'll find that you'll have none left.
Now get the ***** off the internet. - kxb304, on 10/10/2007, -0/+128I want to thank this guy. I forgot to put ad blocker on the work computer. Good reminder.
- jtb4, on 10/10/2007, -13/+139OMG is that dude serious? Firefox is a "small minority" and "spends less".
He should be optimizing for FF and offering the Download Firefox button. - carstairs, on 11/13/2007, -3/+120Some of us don't use Ad Blocker. But (almost) none of us click on ads anyway, so who cares?
- drafhk, on 10/10/2007, -4/+119Newsflash to this douchebag: We do not need your site, your site needs us. Don't you EVER forget that. If more websites take your approach, I can't wait to see the results (hint: they won't be in your favor).
- digudown, on 11/13/2007, -4/+106Lets rely on the digg effect to bring this site down.
- nonpareil, on 11/13/2007, -3/+99This has to be the most asinine argument I've ever seen - and trust me, I've seen MANY. TiVo, DVR all allow you to blast through, or simply pass over commercials. Should television studios start blacklisting customers who use this because hey, "ADS PAY FOR THIS CONTENT?!" I don't think so.
With respect to internet ads, and specifically the number of folks using AdBlock, the Firefox market is tiny (though on Reddit it will be inflated), and the fraction of people using AdBlock is even smaller. Calling that small group out may, if anything, bring more people to AdBlock (and Firefox) than it will persuade current users that their use is somehow "unethical." Still, this is a preemptive strike directed to stop the "bleeding" early on. No idea how it got nearly 1000 upvotes.
Websites are openly accessible anywhere in the world, and through a multitude of browsers. There are options for text-only browsing. Is this too unethical? Then there are nuked browsers that provide that only certain things load. Unethical yet? I don't see anything "unethical" about browsing sans ads. To call it illegal is just plain fatuous (and sadly reminiscent of the fear-mongering we see all around us in other contexts). Firefox and AdBlock allow you to cut the fat off stupid websites and basically empower the folks who are otherwise COMPLETELY UNSWAYED BY ADS to blot them out of their online browsing experience. The occasional dimwit who clicks on a flash ad for LOWER YOUR MORTGAGE RATES or FREE PS3 NOW!!! would not install AdBlock plus.
That being said, I would argue that maybe the folks who put up websites should be more "ethical" in choosing their ads. I have never seen a web ad that offered me anything resembling a deal on something I wanted. Moreover, I would wager that many ads only seek to add emails/personal information to spam databases. In this light, AdBlock isn't unethical -- it's essential. - krism42, on 10/22/2007, -8/+99*cough*
bash-3.2$ cat *****.sh
#!/bin/sh
while [ true ]; do
wget -r http://whyfirefoxisblocked.com
done
bash-3.2$ - flashingcurser, on 10/10/2007, -2/+91This is one of the only times that I really appreciate the digg effect.
- johndrinkwater, on 10/10/2007, -5/+89Lets ignore it, it might go away.
- Lamtd, on 10/10/2007, -6/+88"that's just stupid and immature"
Welcome to digg... :-/ - jtb4, on 11/13/2007, -5/+83It's owned by a guy named Danny Carlton. Here is the Google cache of his site portfolio http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:i5x2B3OX1tEJ:dannycarlton.com/buylinks.html+familynethome.com&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=6&gl=us
Looks like there's too many Diggers trying to whois him to figure out if this site is a joke. Evidently it is NOT a joke- he really does think Firefox is evil...... so, so sad. - mrosetti, on 10/10/2007, -15/+90He's the father of a bunch of Macaulay Culkins, and that cannot be good!
- sparkmonkeyz, on 10/10/2007, -5/+78wo, this is the line ___ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . and this is how far you just went over it
- chris9902, on 10/25/2007, -5/+78You can block ads in IE aswell. This guy knows he's using a computer right? just checking
- meshgiath, on 10/10/2007, -3/+74This is all you need to know about this guy: Page source the link.
meta name="GENERATOR" content="Microsoft FrontPage 4.0" meta name="ProgId" content="FrontPage.Editor.Document" - arbulus, on 10/10/2007, -1/+68I cannot believe that this cat thinks that adblock is stealing. That seriously has to be one of the most inane, ignorant and ridiculous statements I've heard. It's like saying that Linux and FOSS users are theives.
Our culture is innundated with advertisements. You can't move hardly without having an ad crammed down your throat. Someone willingly choosing not to be force fed ***** or to constantly have ***** pitched to them is making a sane choice. Yes, people use ads to make money for their site. But just because I go to your site, doesn't mean I'm going to click your ads. I NEVER click ads, especially pop-up or annoying, flashy ads. If I want a product, I google what I'm looking for and find it that way. I don't want things shoved down my throat. - cygnus2112, on 10/10/2007, -1/+63When are websites going to start paying for the bandwidth they're costing us by using big, annoying animated ads?
- Haplo7, on 10/10/2007, -10/+70Mirror:
http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:EfQ9fM1ZcooJ:whyfirefoxisblocked.com/+site:whyfirefoxisblocked.com+whyfirefoxisblocked.com&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2 - terminal157, on 10/29/2007, -6/+65No need to insult the man's family just because he's a jackass.
- caederus, on 10/10/2007, -10/+68Call me old fashioned, but no Ad-blocker here.. Just a robust hosts file... 0.0.0.0 is a fine address.
- Matteos, on 10/29/2007, -3/+53And we want to visit his site why...
- cheesexbro, on 10/10/2007, -1/+50Also, he claims that Mozilla endorses AdBlock... IE7Pro (along with a paid add-on called AdBlock Pro) are listed as popular items on the Windows Marketplace. http://www.windowsmarketplace.com/xml/XmlResults.aspx?bcatid=834&SortBy=POP&Order=D&Channel=Category
- Spetz, on 10/10/2007, -0/+47Thing is, I wouldn't be forced to use flashblock and adblock if people didn't use annoying flash animations that hog RAM and ads that make annoying buzzing sounds or beeps or whatever. As far as I'm concerned, they have shot themselves in the foot by forcing people like me to install these plugins.
- knetworx, on 10/10/2007, -6/+52bool ultimate_truth = (Diggers != Supermodels);
- Ricapar, on 10/10/2007, -1/+45I was able to get a few peeks at this portfoilo before it went down. The guy uses FRONTPAGE for making sites. He's a joke.
- fotbr, on 11/13/2007, -4/+47He also runs www.jacklewis.net and is a raving right-wing nutcase. Of course, you have to use user-agent switcher or one of his approved browsers to see it.
- Fracture98, on 10/10/2007, -1/+42Why can't marketing folks figure that out? They always take the line of "we must try harder to target this hates-ads demographic!"
- meatmcguffin, on 10/10/2007, -4/+44Wow, from that distance you can't even see 4chan!
- lcmatt, on 10/10/2007, -0/+39IE7 Pro addon supports Ad Blocking and userscripts to stop the text ads etc so he should also run a website called whyieisblocked.com
- DocHoliday22, on 10/10/2007, -6/+44They're just kids... I can't see why they need to be insulted...
- kaiwai, on 10/10/2007, -6/+42I wish it were just that easy; but the fact remains, look on his site, personal attacks, claiming that there is a Firefox cult, that Firefox users are some how deficient. I'm sorry but he pulled the first punch by slandering Firefox with little more than name calling.
- lazyrussian, on 10/10/2007, -4/+40If he posted the picture, then it's widely available on the web.
- prattmic, on 10/10/2007, -1/+37And it's not like someone could just edit their hosts file. Therefore I believe every computer with a host file should be blocked.
- javascriptdude, on 10/10/2007, -1/+37Let me guess....he also likes watching tv commercials, so he doesn't rob the advertisers
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