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- Chaotix, on 12/13/2008, -8/+155The article mentions changing the boot order.
This won't stop people from booting the PC without the usb stick. It will just make the computer look for the USB stick _first_, and then move on down the list until it finds the hard drive to boot from. Which it will then proceed to do.
I don't get this at all. The article is missing something. - ileftfark, on 12/14/2008, -2/+89You're getting dugg down, but you are 100% correct. I think the idea in the article was to load the necessary boot files onto the flash drive, making the system unable to boot up without those files (read: the flash drive). But the author also tells you to simply *copy* the boot files (boot.ini, NTLDR and ntdetect.com) onto the drive, which necessarily means that these files are still left on the HDD intact, making the entire exercise pointless. I think he meant to say to remove these files from the HDD and load them on the flash drive. I'm not sure that would even work, though. But in the model he described, the boot files are left on the HDD, and therefore the computer will still be able to boot, with or without the flash drive. And to confirm- yes, most BIOS configurations will go through the boot order until finding a suitable boot source. And for some of the older ones that do not, anybody would be be able to access the BIOS (he's talking about booting the OS, which is a few levels above BIOS), and change the boot order to run from the HDD or disc.
- ryan83189, on 12/14/2008, -0/+60I would rather use a key-key, like on my old 486.
- shadowman99, on 12/13/2008, -14/+61windoze only.
- inactive, on 12/14/2008, -2/+40Waste of time. Doesn't do a thing to protect your data while using a Live CD. Which is exactly what I would do if I wanted unrestricted access to someone's system.
- ileftfark, on 12/14/2008, -0/+23Creating 'foolproof' technology is.
- AnotherBrian, on 12/14/2008, -0/+22Step 1) Ignore this article
Step 2) http://www.truecrypt.org/docs/?s=system-encryption - castletech, on 12/14/2008, -0/+22I agree completely. Setting a strong password works better and you don't have to worry about losing your flash drive it getting zapped in the washing machine etc. Also strong passwords are cross platform, this half baked idea only works with windows systems.
- spillwater, on 12/14/2008, -1/+22yeah but your password is just a combination of things i know, so technically i already know your password.
- ClevelandBrown, on 12/14/2008, -2/+20Not worth the effort.
- mysn239, on 12/14/2008, -3/+21Or you can just use a password?
- roxgod666, on 12/14/2008, -1/+18This comment is brought to you by Mad Libs...
who cares, linux has better (adjective) (noun).
Oh yeah, well Windows has better (noun) than (noun). - haikuFU, on 12/14/2008, -2/+18Interesting. Why not compile a linux kernel with the encryption key built into it for encrypted drives. Then, it pretty much is foolproof, unless your friend can crack AES or Blowfish.
- consoneo, on 12/14/2008, -0/+15@black27696
Or you could just, you know, set a BIOS level boot password. :) - ocharry, on 12/14/2008, -3/+18Floppy Disk? Man, didn't even know they still made those.
- jasdf, on 12/14/2008, -1/+15"It's not that hard, just a lot of concentration and meticulous work."
Isn't this sentence sort of an oxymoron. - sailadayaway, on 12/14/2008, -0/+12Yea, I agree, I did this with my work computer, but I just edited, and corrupted my boot.ini file on my hard drive, so the computer would just lock up on boot, unless the floppy disk was in the drive.
- cyberfreak01, on 12/14/2008, -0/+11If someone has physical access to a computer there will always be a way to access data. Granted full disk encryption would slow most of us down considerably, they could still copy then crack later. This is just basically something out of movies and TV shows where someone needs a disk or usb stick to boot a computer. Completely useless in real life. Get a strong password if you have a nosy cousin.
- WorldGroove, on 12/14/2008, -0/+11Don't do this.
If anyone is after your data and they can't figure out how to reach the content on your HDD without booting off that partition, then they wouldn't know how to get around a regular windows login either. - 1n4007, on 12/14/2008, -1/+11Well, the same can be done on Linux. I'd even write a tutorial if I wasn't such a lazy *****.
- defenswens26, on 12/14/2008, -0/+10Seems like you'd be better off with a really strong password, set hdd to boot first, and put a password on the bios. Oh, and encrypt the hard drive if you worry that your pr0n is at jeopardy of being discovered.
- Tiptup300, on 12/14/2008, -1/+10Erm, obviously every great tutorial starts with how to show hidden files in windows (including pics.)
- sevenalive, on 12/14/2008, -1/+9hour? try 1 minute usually, maybe 5, but hour is way too long.
- cyberfreak01, on 12/14/2008, -0/+8because it's probably way above the head of the author of this article.........
- ha1f, on 12/14/2008, -0/+8I've been using an SD card to boot and decrypt my laptops that run FreeBSD for a while now. Not hard to do, really.
- hilo4321, on 12/14/2008, -0/+8or the jumper if it has one
- doshindude, on 12/14/2008, -0/+7Anything is possible at Zombo Com
- xkorbin, on 12/14/2008, -0/+7What kind of friends do you have?
- azureskies88, on 12/14/2008, -0/+7Either it works, and you risk losing/damaging your USB key(s), or it doesn't, and there are far better security measures. Either way, a terrible idea.
- talkingwires, on 12/14/2008, -0/+7My computer cannot boot from USB. I guess I could use a compact disc to load a boot loader to boot from USB....
...or I could just ignore this retarded article. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should. - deadbaby, on 12/14/2008, -2/+9If you don't have physical security there's no point in bothering with software security.
- reverbhell, on 12/14/2008, -0/+6388 diggs at the time of this comment, for an article that's more dangerous than helpful!
The trouble is, because of the diggs, there'll be people that screw their system up thinking they're doing themselves a favour.. And if they don't, the false sense of security they get will probably make them worse off.. It would take anyone who was seriously after the data in the machine 2 minutes tops to realise what was going on and have their hands on everything.
There is no substitution for good encryption... - nizzy1115, on 12/14/2008, -0/+6This will work if you remove the hard drive from the boot order in the bios, then password protect the bios from being changed.
However, you are better off, in my opinion, to have a regular booting windows os, and then a thumb drive to boot to linux. If the thumb drive is not in there it will only boot to windows. They would never think twice that another operating system is installed. - castletech, on 12/14/2008, -2/+8Cool trick and all but I will stick to setting a strong password.
- remccain, on 12/14/2008, -1/+7I am so of that meme.
- coldwind777, on 12/14/2008, -0/+6in some BIOS', you can actually remove devices from the boot order.
- DrunkenPirate34, on 12/14/2008, -0/+6ocharry: Pfft, I still have a copy of a disk wiper on floppy, just in case.
- omjeremy, on 12/14/2008, -1/+6@MavRevMatt
Is it really that hard to type in: http://www.amazon.com ?
Oh I see you wanted us to buy something from that link so you could get the referral. - inactive, on 12/14/2008, -2/+7(expletive) you and your mother
- Princeamor, on 12/14/2008, -1/+6And if I lose my usb stick? No thanks...
- AnonBuffalo, on 12/14/2008, -1/+6I have lost USB drives before. Cool, but a very bad idea for us forgetful people.
- MattBD, on 12/14/2008, -1/+6I did hear on the Ubuntu forums a few weeks back that you can put your entire /boot partition on a flash drive.
- cyberfreak01, on 12/14/2008, -0/+5if someone has access to the computer, the bios can be reset. Trust me. I had a guy convinced there was a master bios password because i got into his "unbootable" computer.
- Travisx2, on 12/14/2008, -0/+5FYI
Windows (XP, 2k, 2k3)Password can be cleared in under a minute with the right boot CD.
Bios Passwords can be cleared in the time it takes to open the case and clear the bios.
- waspbr, on 12/14/2008, -0/+5... under a rock on the front yard
- DeathMarcher, on 12/14/2008, -1/+6Is it a button that only you can press?
- inactive, on 12/14/2008, -0/+5Where's the Robocop style security systems, where the perpetrator dies a rather gruesome death.
- inactive, on 12/14/2008, -0/+4Can't you just clear the CMOS or something to get reset that *****.
EDIT: I guess if you can clear the CMOS via a jumper you could also just take the hard drive. :\ - zyce, on 12/14/2008, -0/+4If I was trying to get into this top-secret uber hacked system, I'd add a BIOS password when I was done.
I'll bet good money that the author doesn't know how to remove a CMOS battery or swap jumpers on a motherboard. Everybody knows how to put in a ***** recovery CD. - Murdats, on 12/14/2008, -0/+4however even you admit it is still possible just increasingly more and more impracticle
also direct decryption isn't the only way to break encryption. -
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