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- ElBeh, on 06/11/2008, -31/+199I would very much prefer Google have a hand in Digg than Microsoft. Unlike MS. Google doesn't rip out all the old content and replace it with ***** bloat.
- benologist, on 06/12/2008, -4/+94The democracy thing is kind of laughable at this point. Digg's corrupt. Not the site, not the company or people behind the site, but the users. Everything revolves around digging what your friends submit so they will digg what you submit. Other users might tip the balance but only deciding between the submitters swapping diggs. The quality of the submissions is increasingly sucky because votes are done in exchange for votes and not because a story deserves it.
Making recommendations from an increasingly crap selection of spam, republished images with adsense and political bashing seems kind of pointless. Adding whatever the "micro-communities" are when your users are already grouping together to exploit the system isn't going to help either. - unicronband, on 06/11/2008, -5/+82I like the idea of interest-focused subsections and recommendations, but I don't think it will change much unless they expand the amount of stories on the front page. I really like reddit's subtractive model, where their front page may have hundreds of news items at one time, but only displays the sub-reddits to which you subscribe. Digg's subsection feature does this to some extent, but is really only useful in the upcoming section, as most subsections may only have 1 or 2 stories on the front page at any given time.
I think there would be a lot less bitching about stale/lame front page material if there was a greater selection of front page stories which users could filter out what they don't want to read. This would also give less savvy diggers a greater opportunity to make their stories popular, while potentially eliminating some of the "this is lame" crowd who feel the need to complain about every story that isn't totally relevant to their interests. If enough cohesive Digg subcommunites form, this may actually result in something I haven't seen on Digg in a very long time; Informative, thoughtful, respectful discussions.
What I fear is that these recommendations Jay & Kevin are talking about will be hijacked by Digg manipulators, becoming another spammer tool that the broader community ends up rejecting. The Digg ideal of democratization of media has devolved into what is essentially mob rule, and that is turning a lot of folks off. Digg needs to find a way to appeal to both the puerile interests that seem to dominate the the agenda at the moment (I won't pretend I don't Digg that stuff too), as well as those who want to actually have serious discussions if it wishes to remain relevant. Or it can go "mainstream" a la myspace and watch as its longtime users flood out like rats from a sinking ship. I love Digg and will stay here as long as I can stand it but I will say, the way things have been going, I'm inflating my life preserver just in case. - Garrettsimonsen, on 06/12/2008, -7/+78God I hope digg never sells out to a major corporation.
- TheWindBlows, on 06/11/2008, -6/+75I thought was about to be linked to something having to do with LOLcats, trolls, internet memes, and many other things.
- lordenlil, on 06/12/2008, -8/+62Kevin Rose is a *much* better posterboy than Jay Adelson.
- SubjectiveC, on 06/12/2008, -2/+35I'm probably going to get buried for this, but I think the Digg user base is going to remain very limited for quite a while if something is not done about the sheer amount of political spam and inane stories hitting the front page. Most Diggers agree that it's getting out of hand, but their response is usually composed of reminding users that you can untick sections from your user preferences.
Leaving aside the fact that interesting, fresh stories that users might be interested in sometimes do crawl up in those sections, I picture plenty of people NEW to Digg walking out on the site after a few minutes because they might mistake it for a website with an agenda that repeatedly links to the same sites over and over again, discussing the same issues over and over again. We might remain stagnant for a while unless Digg either decides to revamp its default content distribution or simply cater to all the blogspam and remain popular, forever killing the Digg of yore. - Mootabolife, on 06/12/2008, -2/+31I second Google. I welcome the return of Digg Beta.
- inactive, on 06/12/2008, -5/+31M$ is just selling ads for digg. did you watch the video?
- bullcutter, on 06/12/2008, -1/+23good interview, but they are a bit too lofty in celebrating their accomplishments in the "democratization of the media",
Digg is sort of a "democratic engine" for propelling media, but the supersubmitters are trying to keep it more like a high school popularity contest, where stuff gets popularized based on who submitted an article instead of the actual content of the article.
Case in point: I remember seeing a submission by Bukowsky that linked to the wrong article last week, and it currently has 82 Diggs!
http://digg.com/general_sciences/River_of_Ice_Trig ...
That means 81 people dugg the article and never bothered to open it! You would think the people submitting the best stories would gain the most friends and have the most items made popular, but that's not really how it works.
Instead, the people who spend every waking moment of their lives trying to manipulate Digg are the ones placing half the front page content. In all fairness the worst abusers have been quelled in their domination of late, but that's probably because everybody who recognizes their usurpation of the "Diggocracy" buries the ***** out of their every submission. - gannondork, on 06/12/2008, -0/+20I have finished the script and used back orifice to upload it to your computer, now you will be able to see how many + and - diggs a person has gotten simply by clicking on the number of diggs itself, try it!
- GregFD3S, on 06/12/2008, -37/+57If Microsoft buys Digg, I won't use it anymore.
- thedragon4453, on 06/12/2008, -0/+18I agree. I think they ought to toss out the "friends" thing altogether.
- Selaam, on 06/12/2008, -0/+18Creepy......
That you know that. - WoWii, on 06/12/2008, -4/+21Kevin Rose has worn that shirt in 4 of the last 7 diggnations.
- RobotKing, on 06/12/2008, -1/+17Jay looks like he needs some sleep.
- vexingmodstwo, on 06/12/2008, -1/+17I agree.
- synystar, on 06/12/2008, -0/+15Digg is more than a product but everything has a price. At some point you have to say to yourself "That's an awful lot of money. I'd really like to have that much money." Principal goes out the window when the price can justify it. You can always convince yourself that you'll do something even better.
- Klowner, on 06/12/2008, -8/+23I'm getting tired of the repeated Zunesturbation on Diggnation
- gamben0, on 06/12/2008, -1/+15Arggggggggg, I hate being force fed ads before vids.
- Alex2, on 06/12/2008, -8/+21If MS buys Digg, say goodbye to Linux on the front page.
- inactive, on 06/12/2008, -14/+26recommendation engine? face book integration? i'm skeptical. IMHO it will probably kill digg
- brownrecluse888, on 06/12/2008, -2/+14The future of digg?
1) Non stop Obama stories spammed on a daily basis
2) See number one - Juice7, on 06/12/2008, -0/+11Real talk.
- batmanz, on 06/12/2008, -1/+12Umm...this is a "feature." Click on the diggs someone has got, and it will show you "how many + and - diggs a person has gotten."
- mark076h, on 06/12/2008, -1/+11lol, digg does have a music section
- Hefelumpman, on 06/12/2008, -0/+10I really don't think so - With both of those things, I'm fairly sure that they will not be forced on users and will be *options*. In terms of Facebook integration, you can already have stories that you digg fed into your FB minifeed.
Recommendation engines are *huge* and exciting beasts - every digg user has some kind of digging-profile, e.g. some users will digg articles specifically about obama in politics, bury McCain, digg tech articles related to Apple and SSD drives, but bury any articles about Vista - the recommendation engine will look at what you've dugg, using some sexy statistical analysis and show you stories that you'll probably enjoy based on your history. If you're seeing more stories you enjoy, what's so terrible? Not to mention it'll you on the site for longer - meaning more eyeballs, and more revenue for Digg.
Then again, a recommendation engine will also mean that you're probably exposed to a narrower subset of stories, which I don't particularly agree with... - gannondork, on 06/12/2008, -3/+12ADBLOCK FTW!
- kirakun, on 06/12/2008, -4/+12Does this mean Digg will change from PHP to ASP?
- inactive, on 06/12/2008, -0/+8Thank you for knowing what tl;dr is ! great time to use it too.
I agree with everything you said, and would digg you up a thousand times, if possible (new feature? haha).
but yea, I have found myself burying NUMEROUS things on the front page lately. Somehow the pond scum has started to surface. Years ago, I would never ever bury a front page story, because there wan never any need to. - sweetholymosiah, on 06/12/2008, -0/+8SHHHHHut up man!! You're gonna ruin it...
- gannondork, on 06/12/2008, -2/+10¿ɹoɹɹıɯ
- P373Y, on 06/12/2008, -0/+8if we digg it enough, people will find out about digg
oh wait - Someguy101, on 02/19/2009, -0/+8A very pleasant to read, well thought out and well written wall of text
- vexingmodstwo, on 06/12/2008, -2/+10I'm not sure about the future of Digg but right now the front page, at least, seems to be a subsidiary of The Huffington Post, dailykos, and thinkprogress, etc.
- benologist, on 06/12/2008, -0/+8http://siteanalytics.compete.com/digg.com?metric=a ...
According to Compete 2:30 is the average time spent on digg. Considering many of us spend hours on digg each day new visitors must be spending seconds. The pages visits per visit is also low, between 4 and 5 per visit, which again considering the many users who rack up hundreds or more page views a day means new users are literally just passing through in approximately the time it takes to get the hell away from us. - wavesmachine, on 06/12/2008, -2/+9hey.... stop talking!
/realizes his efforts will be futile... :( - killtrocity, on 06/12/2008, -0/+7It seems having a recommendation engine would create a sort of "group polarization," where the likes and interests of each group will become more and more like each other. This would make people's opinions even stronger, so if they strayed into other Digg communities, we would see more "lame comments" than we see now.
I still like the idea of the recommendation engine, but I am afraid that it has the potential to make Digg worse. The way it is now, is has checks and balances of a sort, and I like that. - wtfpwned98, on 06/12/2008, -7/+14Who the hell is digging you down? Kevinbot?
- inactive, on 06/12/2008, -1/+8algorithm needs to be changed so that sites like the huffington post, a blog site getting frontpage views in the news section, does not have a monopoly on frontpage access. Sites, like huffington post have used "digg" armies in order to drive traffic to their site. Before this it was crooksandliars, rawstory, moveon and I know I'm forgetting one or two more. Maybe allowing the elimination of source stories. For example, I want the politics section minus all sources directing from huffingtonpost.com.
- SubjectiveC, on 06/12/2008, -0/+7I may be wrong, but I believe most of the diggs required to reach the front page are coming from the originating site, and I think it's because of Digg's site integration tools buttons. So, if a page gets a solid and steady flow 100-200 visitors daily willing to digg each submission blindly, they will provide those diggs by not even coming to Digg.com and because I think those tools were meant to make submitting stories easier, not allowing control of Digg's front page every two stories, I propose disabling the system, if only for a little while, to see how many people would actually bother coming to Digg and digging the stories themselves.
- funkyjunk3, on 06/12/2008, -1/+7If i was already sitting on top of a cool $200,000,000, and somebody came along and offered me $500,000,000 for my business, I would decline. At some point there's a diminishing return for me. I would still have enough money to buy the hottest cars, my private 747 if I really wanted one, a flight to the ISS, etc. That's with 200-million. If I loved working with my business, that trumps anything since I had already reached a "saturation point" with cash. I'd have enough money to be content with.
- san1ty, on 06/12/2008, -0/+6They've been promising recommendations on Digg for over two years now! Check out this story from March 2006 (yes, that is two thousand and *six*!) : http://money.cnn.com/2006/03/24/magazines/business ...
Could it really be that hard when there are proven off-the-shelf solutions out there like Sensearray? - Atomic1fire, on 06/12/2008, -0/+6Thats why they should incorperate things like customizable tags and url block lists for users
Block _____.com if you want so that all entries are blocked from it. - marcos89, on 06/12/2008, -8/+14shes hot...
- frieddonuts, on 06/12/2008, -0/+6Jay looks sort of like Adrien Brody with a mop top.
- satch, on 06/12/2008, -0/+6They're called 14 year old trolls, and they ruin websites.
- AdHavoc, on 06/12/2008, -0/+6I'd hit that.
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