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- Gipsy, on 10/12/2007, -18/+328My favorite one is changing the font size for the display: It requires a reboot!
Welcome back to Windows NT4. - bightchee, on 10/12/2007, -9/+250There's SEVEN deadly sins now? I think I might be in trouble.
- Shade00a00, on 10/12/2007, -71/+220These are all non-issues :
Number 1 - The new file browsing interface is broken
If anything, it's faster now. No need to pop up a drop-down menu to change the path. Just click and enter the path you want, or click on the first element in the path to go to the parent folder. It's changed, sure, but it's easier now.
Number 2 - The new start menu sucks (Kind of)
The run command is still available, and you can still add it back to the start menu. I use WIN+R everyday. The instant search will make other things quicker, too.
Number 3 - Windows Networking is a mess
Things have been moved into different locations. If you want to repair your network connection, you can simply right click on the tray icon for it, and click repair. Otherwise, agreed, it is somewhat more difficult to access the windows DHCP configuration page, but this is not an issue in a network installation, where parameters can be copied via USMT, etc.
Number 4 - Windows Search Is Broken
Advanced search is still there and customizable. Just click the button.
Number 5 - Windows copying has not improved
Actually, it has. If a file is inaccessible, it will ask you if you want to skip that file. On network shares, you can also activate delayed transfers, which will synchronize a folder for you when the share is available. Caching options have also been changed to be more secure by default, but you can activate more thourough write caching on your hard drive if you wish to make hard drives faster (riskier if you have power surges, etc.) - dcbebop, on 10/12/2007, -25/+170Since conspiracy theories are soooo popular these days (@see every damn 9/11 video out there) then let me suggest one of my own.
Windows' requirement to restart every time a miniscule change occurs is really an internal scam to force the user to restart, thus resetting the system to a more stabile condition and lessening the overall chances of getting a "blue screen of death". Oh, and george bush is partially responsible for this plan. - shadus, on 10/12/2007, -12/+98What annoys me about this is we could have drawn so many parallels to the 7 deadly sins... but noooo only 5.
- deadmoo, on 10/12/2007, -6/+67The best one is the file copy complaint. Is Microsoft ever going to make that better?
- bradleyland, on 10/12/2007, -22/+76"well, since restarting takes about 1 minute and nobody ever changes their font size, i'm pretty sure it doesn't matter that much. doesn't decrease my nerd efficiency in the long run.
even if you do recall needing to change your font size, do you do it multiple times?"
So, you've never adjusted the font size setting, then decided maybe that change was a little too much? Restarting the computer has been a glaring annoyance for so long that they should work to avoid it like the plague. I could change the font size in Windows XP without a restart. I can change the font size in OS X without a restart. I can change the font size in KDE and Gnome without a restart. What's with Vista?
This just highlights the underlying truth of the matter. Microsoft is out of touch with what really makes an OS great for users. Sure, they've touched up the eye candy, and I'm extremely happy that they've acknowledged the need for better security (UAC), but they're still falling down where it counts. I'm not an Apple fanboy, but I'm not a Microsoft apologist either. I currently own more Windows based PCs than I do Macs, but that number is changing. I just can't ignore all the little things that make me *enjoy* using my Mac. And in a time when we spend so much time with our computers, why not do everything we can to enjoy that time.
Personally, I'm rooting for Microsoft. They've fallen on hard times in the public eye, and although they enjoy the marketshare lead, I can't help but see them as the underdog. I hope they hear these criticisms ad up the ante. - xXShadowstormXx, on 10/12/2007, -20/+58This is like the 10th story I've seen these past three days where it's all anti-Vista. I hate fanboys.
Give Digg a Windows/Microsoft section. - etruscan, on 10/12/2007, -28/+66Meh - we'll all be using it in a year or two regardless of how many sins it has committed.
- darthsnoopy, on 10/12/2007, -21/+56Wow, this isn't a review or criticism by someone who's spent 5 minutes looking at the OS, it's more flame bait...
From the first section:
"One other bone I have to pick with the new browsing interface is the difficulty in going back to the parent of the current directory"
Answer: Breadcrumb bar provides single click access to any folder in the hiearchy tree. It's new to Vista. If he spent 5 minutes reading, he'd know that...
second section:
"If you forget the trailing backslash it will launch a program that is the closest match to that word"
Answer: To get to any folder in the OS, if he types and looks at the search results displayed above..it takes less than a second to navigate. I'd much rather have quick access to any file in my system32 folder than just a root directory
His networking comments fly in the face of info popping up which I trust alot more: http://www.geekzone.co.nz/juha/2070
The third point about search...the author has no idea how to customize it, so he assumes the feature must not be in the OS.
Basically this is a bunch of FUD from a guy that didnt take a 5 minute tour of the OS, but boy I bet the blog dollars are great for putting up a half assed review.
Ugh. For every new Ubuntu distroy, Mac OSX distro, and Windows OS, are we going to have to continue to sift through tons of these so called 'technical criticisms' that are written by people less technical than our grandmothers? I love OS technologies..I want to read something from someone that knows what the hell is up, not FUD.
Sigh..I must be new here... - Sirocco, on 10/12/2007, -10/+43I have to agree with all of this. While these things may seem trivial to the masses, they should have been fixed long ago. In the case of the search and copy functions, they should have been addressed several generations ago. Copying files over a network connection is significantly slower in XP and Vista than it is in 9x. Sad.
- coreyb, on 10/12/2007, -14/+46First the disclaimer, I run Mac OSX
But, Shouldn't your OS just work? I mean I have nothing (well mostly nothing) against windows. But shouldn't your OS just allow you to change your font size, copy files or allow you to work the way you want to work without having to justify ITS problems? I would not stay with a girl if she had so much baggage and I had to justify everything wanted to do and find a work around just to get some... I would find another girl....
My 2 cents - bmartin, on 10/12/2007, -8/+36While certain areas of Windows improve over time, others are degrading. Windows is trying to change a lot of things quickly and they're neglecting OS features that truly made the OS productive to the people who used them the most. Back when I used Windows, "Run..." and Notepad were my best friends. Every day, Vista advocates and opponents tell me with a unified voice that Vista isn't what they want.
BASH and Nano/GEdit are as good now as they've ever been. Three of the four people living in my household have already "made the move" so to speak -- all between the ages of 22-31. I realize Linux isn't for everyone, but FOSS feels like it caters to its users in ways that Windows never did. - thealliedhacker, on 10/12/2007, -12/+36Couldn't be MORE innacurate.
1. File browsing is better. And Explorer has always shown URLs.
2. The start menu may not agree with your TASTES, but from a usability standpoint, it is a better design.
3. Networking is re-organized in a GOOD way; just because you don't know where one thing is now (because you didn't LOOK) doesn't make it bad.
4. Windows search, again, is DIFFERENT, but in a GOOD way. Don't be so stupid.
5. This is just REDICULOUS. In Vista, if you copy a huge folder and 10 things cant be copied, it WILL COPY THE REST NOW (unlike XP). Then it will offer to even rename the file (showing a preview), change permissions as needed, etc, and do whatever is needed. THEN it even has a checkbox to repeat that for any of the files that have the same problem (AND it tells you ahead of time how many that is). Way to research, jackass. - OneAndOnlySnob, on 10/12/2007, -11/+34lazydrumhead: "well, since restarting takes about 1 minute and nobody ever changes their font size, i'm pretty sure it doesn't matter that much. doesn't decrease my nerd efficiency in the long run.
even if you do recall needing to change your font size, do you do it multiple times?"
Yeah, but why do you put up with this *****? It's silly. It only takes "about 1 minute" when it should only take about 1 second and no restart. Hell, restart the UI if you must, but a full reboot? Ridiculous.
I don't think I should have to restart after installing a program EVER, so how does having to restart to change fonts bode for that? Not too good.
When is Windows gunna catch up with Linux?
"edit: p.s. how in the world is "copying has not improved" a step back. it would appear that it is a step in neither direction."
Well, now you're just splitting hairs. - jtjdt, on 10/12/2007, -6/+29Only 5?
- jguy584, on 10/12/2007, -10/+31@randomguysteve
Trust me when I say that he isn't just referring to the font issue when he says falling where it counts...
I myself have been a windows user since day one, and still am, but I do think/know that OSX is twice to OS that vista could even hope to be.
God is in the details, and until MS comes to that realization they are going to keep on pushing out crappy OS's.
Also don't go thinking that OSX is any less customizable/advanced-user friendly then windows. Just because you don't know how to do something doesn't mean you cant do it. - ziadoz, on 10/12/2007, -6/+26Amen to that. Its unbelievably biased to have an Apple section and Linux section, but not a Microsoft one. If Microsoft stuff has to go in software/hardware accordingly then why doesn't Apples? If Linux/Unix is software, why can't it go in software?
- Sirocco, on 10/12/2007, -7/+25>> How the hell can you agree with the first point? It's blatantly wrong!
Simple. I've felt the browsing interface was totally broken since 95, and even as far out as Vista I see no significant improvement. - spudnic, on 10/12/2007, -6/+23I'd seriously love to hear a justification as to why there isn't one; there's zero chance of it just being a plain oversight by this point.
Look at it this way Apple fanboys, if there's a Windows category you'll be able to turn it off. - mattsuey, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17Microsoft needs to update the copy dialog to include a simple "Pause" button. It's pretty annoying when the copy action slows down the computer and I want to take care of something quick like checking email. Being able to pause the transfer and resume it would be a great change for the better.
- Hale, on 10/12/2007, -4/+20The first one is simply wrong. Instead of clicking the dropdown button, the location box shows the heirarchy for your current directory with clickable buttons. Moving up to the root folder is incredibly easy. Or if you click to the right of these heirarchal buttons, you receive the full location in text form, which you can then change easily if need be. Also I think he has screwed something up to receive internet addresses in the location box, as I've been using Vista RC2 for months and I've NEVER seen that happen.
- childprey, on 10/12/2007, -4/+20I think one thing here is not a lot of people REALIZE it can be better. Rediculous copy times with the threat of failure have become the norm and we've negatively hallucinated away any alternatives.
- majortom1981, on 10/12/2007, -12/+27Why cant people who right articles do their research first. Well atleast the copying part. There is a new utility in vista that is more robust for copying. It will continue network copies when the connection is restored and also will not cancel when 1 file cant be copied.
But who cares right? We all hate microsoft and must flame them even if we have to lie to do it. - xxBondsxx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15totally agree on the copying one!!! gets me every time when trying to copy mp3's from computer to computer or movies
- Novagenesis, on 10/12/2007, -5/+19I don't know about you, but "change" is a scary word in many ways, for many people.
For the barely-computer-literate, change is a nightmare that means they go from knowing what they're doing, to knowing nothing.
For the computer-experienced, change is a significant hit in efficiency until it is assimilated.
I for one think the idea of adding URLs to the file-browsing dialog is stupid.
ANY negative change in Start->Run is something I don't want to deal with. I use that command in its current state 100 times a day.
And I just won't get into the whole copying issue. - kevptim, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16I don't want copying to stop and prompt me. Everything should copy and then at the end alert me to the file with problems. Often I leave for a bit while stuff copies and I hate to come back 20 minutes later to find file 2 had a problem and I need to wait another 20. Pause would improve things as well. Also, the root of copy problems is bogus. Can't copy because file is in use? I don't care, copy it anyway. If I forgot to save after editing it's my fault and I will take full responsibility. Windows, you do your job and I will do mine.
- godwept, on 10/12/2007, -15/+28Agreed, I have had none of these problems running Vista.
- gojeda, on 10/12/2007, -8/+21"My favorite one is changing the font size for the display: It requires a reboot! Welcome back to Windows NT4."
Umm, this is patently false (at least under Vista Ultimate Aero). - danakin, on 10/12/2007, -4/+16Inaccurate. Use Vista and see how much of this you actually run into.
- kutza, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15My Gripes:
1. I would say the worst sin BY FAR is the lack of info for advanced uses of the system, but this is prob due to it not being officially released yet :p.
2. Constant f**king pop-ups asking me if I want to copy a file, then if I want to allow it, and it has to turn my monitor off each time to display a stupid message that M$ calls a security feature. In the amount of time I click these over a long period of time, it'd take me exponentially less time to remove the damn thing! Also, allowing something to play *cough* a photoparade CD *cough* will also allow it to install (silently I might add), even though you didn't let it.
3. Instability in the photo gallery. Damn thing crashes constantly, and uses over 50% CPU most of the time (and I'm running dual core @ 2.8GHz when it's not OCed...). I liked this feature as I used to use third party for ratings and such, but now it's integrated with the OS and transferable to others (IE my mom syncs my collection as I organize/edit the photos).
4. Not being able to read/sync ratings and tags using WMP/Explorer/Photo Gallery. I already rated and tagged the damn things once in the photo gallery, why must I do it again (especially since I have a crap load of files as I'm into photography and video editing)?
5. It has also frozen (and I mean FROZEN... sound repeating in a loop) windows so I had to do a hard reboot just from playing a 2 min long clip from a camera, and again from a 4 min clip.
Back to what Shade00a00 said:
1. One thing that annoys me with these folders, is they rename my original folders sporatically, (Named 1. Videos, 2. Pictures for ease of navigation) I change them back and they stay for a little while, then revert back to Videos, and Pictures.
Related Questions: Is there any way to show the video/download folders in the start menu? I've looked around but can't figure it out. Also, can you attach multiple locations to one folder (I have videos on 2 hard drives, and want both to be listed, changing location without moving items wont work as I don't have enough space).
2 - It's BY FAR better than any other out there (including linux and OSX, I use both nearly everyday FYI)
3 - The annoyance here is that it opens new windows each time, even when it's set to open folders in the same location in explorer. I hate having to modify my network settings, and close 3 windows in the process.
4 - Hardly ever works correctly for me. I'll do a search for a file in the index, and I can't find an option to filter out results in a folder (IE all files in a folder of that name will pop up). Other times I'll search hard drives, and it will only search the index, even when I selected the hard drives and re-clicked search.
5 - Actually, if it can't access a file, it gives you an error message and kills it... I've had both occur where it can't read, or can't access, and the can't access causes it to die. - garugaga, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13http://www.intelliadmin.com.nyud.net:8080/blog/2007/01/5-sins-of-vista.html
- ashwinmudigonda, on 10/12/2007, -5/+155 reasons why vista is bad.
10 reasons why iPhone sucks.
8 reasons why my mouse is sterile.
5 reasons why bloggers are single.
5 more reasons why bloggers are still single.
100 reasons why idiots advertise on blogs
1 reason why apple doesnt give a ***** about the 10 reasons. - adamgamble, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11In OS X to get to the parent: Apple + click in the top of the finder window on the name of the directory and it will show you the whole hierarchy. It's not really intuitive and I agree they need a parent button, but it works if you know it.
- OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -6/+16More excuses. You fanboys claimed Vista's DRM isn't always on. When we told you that it was, you Dugg us down, now that MS has officially acknowledged that it is I see you don't want to talk about it anymore!
I'll be sure to bring it up again so you don't forget.
All the people you misled about Vista are going to come back to you looking for answers to why Vista has caused them so many problems, or why it won't even work adequately on their cheap hardware that you said was good enough. I wonder what you will say then? - yakpimp, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12I agree that some of the things he pointed out are valid, but number 2... NO WAY.
First of all, he says right before the picture. When I used to press start then run and type c: In vista he typed c: in the search box... That is not start -> run. This works the exact way that it should. - tHePeOPle, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11What it should do is keep a running list of files that couldn't be copied. Then, at the end, try to copy them again. The user shouldn't be bothered until absolutely necessary.
- Ayavaron, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10http://duggmirror.com/software/The_5_sins_of_Vista/
- Ryetronics, on 10/12/2007, -5/+12Digg me down
- tokyopimp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Windows ME reincarnated? Yeah, um... have you ever used ME? Vista is a billion times better, and there is no way Vista is ME reincarnated.
- blueigloo, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9Actually they did make File Copying/Moving better, atleast the dialog anyway. I always hated how it didnt include how fast the transfer was going, or exactly how many MBs were remaining of the transfer. I was happy to see that the Vista copy dialog does include this.
Also, why doesnt he just use the run window? It may not be in the Start menu, but it still exists: WindowsKey + R like its always been. His C: should work fine there... - klawz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Think of it as a feature not a flaw. lol
- drwtsn32, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9"Can't copy because file is in use? I don't care, copy it anyway."
You clearly do not understand file locking. A file opened by a program can be left unlocked, locked against writes, locked against reads and writes, etc. It would be a VERY BAD THING for Windows to simply copy files that an application has specifically requested should be locked against reads. If Windows ignored this, you may end up with a file that was internally inconsistent and therefore useless. - geoken, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8No, that's not what he meant. These are his exact words;
"Click start, then run and type c: Press enter, and the folder will show up."
If he clicked start, then clicked run it would function identically to XP. How is it Vista's problem that he decided the search box should be the run dialog? This guy is a total moron. - SpoBo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6OS X has this problem. Even more so then windows I find. Even the software update just pops up when you least expect it. It's like the Spanish inquisition :/
- aoe2bug, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7also apple + up arrow key goes up one in the hierarchy. Works in file browser, finder.
- LMN8R, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9Thank you. I was about to post something similar about networking at the start menu, but you got the other areas too.
Hell, just from looking at his networking screenshot it's pretty obvious where you click to change your IP address.
Buried as inaccurate. This guy doesn't know what the hell he's talking about. - messs, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5How about windows boxes that pop up over the current application and steal focus. There is nothing more annoying that typing away and pressing enter and sending an IM to someone that could include your password, or "ok"-ing a dialog box that instantly disappears.
Number 1 most annoying behavior ever.
PS. I know OSX doesn't have this problem and I don't care. - DigitalDud, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Windows copying certainly has been improved, for more advanced users anyway. Vista ships with robocopy, which is sort of xcopy on steroids. You get mirroring, error recovery, pausing/resuming jobs, and some 900 other command switches.
- SpoBo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6whow that's frigging handy!!
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