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- Spanktacular, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"Hey Steve."
"Yeah, Bill?"
"Wanna go on this tour over at Xerox with me?"
"Sure, I got nothing else goin' on." - foxhoundadmin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3http://radio.weblogs.com/0001011/2005/08/19.html#a10906
- foxhoundadmin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2here's a link to the -real- story ;)
that first link was just a bunch of mumbo jumbo, corporate conspiracy crap, and we're all the dumber for having read it. - foxhoundadmin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2i have to say that it was pretty cool what steve said. ha! take that ie! hoo ha!
yup. apple did a good job of building a top-based browser from the ground up. ie7 is just safari, with it's tabbed browsing, integrated search bar, and rss feed. although, ms could've copied it from mozilla firefox--which they probably did. - skartel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1dont be so rude doofus
- foxhoundadmin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2i'll digg this if somebody can answer my question, that is, how in the hell did apple ever copy ie4 for the mac. if this has to do with the mac ported version of ie, then i'll say this--microsoft made that ported version of ie for the mac...apple didn't steal it. if this has to do with safari 1.0, i'll say this--it was in no way like ie-freakin'-4! common. wtf?
- seanm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Jobs is probably referring to the way RSS is handled in IE. The UI is extremely similar to Safari RSS:
http://www.bmannconsulting.com/node/1496 - stark23x, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Konfabulator. Shut up, Steve.
- ksgant, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"Steve Jobs Says Microsoft Is Copying Our Stuff"
From the no DUH department. - JDOG, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"I didn't know Apple made Safari from the ground up, oh, wait, they didn't. Safari is ***** anyway."
Whatever dude. You probably own an eMachine and eat McDonalds. Safari rocks...it's certainly a lot faster/more stable/generally better in all ways than IE6 and has a much better GUI than Firefox. - Abraxis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Somewhere Xerox is laughing.
- Noah0504, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Hey Steve."
"Yeah, Bill?"
"Wanna go on this tour over at Xerox with me?"
"Sure, I got nothing else goin' on."
THANK YOU! I read this story and thought, "What? Is this 1984 again?" - blhack, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0all of the 'inovations' that mac has been coming out with in the past several years they have stolen directly from the open source community. They don't even use their own kernel, they use BSD.....What has mircrosoft alledgedly stolen from MAC anyway? It's not like that company really has anything THAT useful to steal anyway. If microsoft changed the name of Vista to Windows-Translucent-Blue-Buttons, i could MAAAAAYYYBEEEE see something..maybe.
I hate microsoft, i hate 99% of their products, windows is a piece of shiat..but they didn't steal it from mac. - skeeto, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0lol. I keep thinking of that scene from Pirates of Silicon Valley.
- setec, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Early morning typing after working all night.
Meant to say "...with who stole what is getting old." - mentill, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0^ Great quote. Happened to just watch that last night again, nice timing.
- rkrock, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Steve Jobs: What is this? This is like doing business with a praying mantis. You get seduced, and then eaten alive afterwards?
Bill Gates: Get real, would ya? You and I are both like guys who had this rich neighbor - Xerox - who left the door open all the time. And you go sneakin' in to steal a TV set. Only when you get there, you realize that I got there first. I got the loot, Steve! And you're yellin'? "That's not fair. I wanted to try to steal it first." You're too late. - tuartboy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Wow, just watched Pirates of Silicon Valley an hour ago and all I can think of is when Steve yells to Bill "Why are you stealing my stuff!"
Still happening I guess - ermau, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Except Safari is built on an open source rendering engine, not exactly from the ground up. I'd also venture to say that IE7 is an attempt at Firefox, not Safari.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The appropriate comeback for the Microsoftie would have been:
"Yeah, well at least our code runs on 97% of the world's computers."
But then we all know first hand just how big steve jobs' ego actually is (big enough to keep him from making a seriously significant commercial success out of Apple).
> Somewhere Xerox is laughing.
At whom? Themselves? Just because Xerox decided to stay in the horse carriage and buggie whip business doesn't mean Apple actually owes them anything (other than a debt of gratitude for being so incredibly inept). - ladycounter, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Yes, because Apple starts over every other year. Windows XP still supports my DOS applications."
Not for long, vista will drop DOS support. - wthnow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"i just hope jobs gets pissed enough that he releases OSX for all x86 platforms... ahhh... the glories of an all out OS war
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I think it that happened you would see windows not able to keep up. - setec, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Its not like Apple ever stole from a company in the past....hmmm, wait, they did. This tit for tat every other year with whole stole what is getting old.
- DigginDave, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0somewhere xerox is crying i think would be more accurate
- drifter, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0This is the equivalent of smack talk for rich geeks. And yes like someone stated earlier it could of been sarcastically said. Things are always taken out of context.
Secondly in 10 years will we even care about Microsoft or Apple. Believe me i wouldnt be fretting over these companies cus like i said in 10 years there could be a whole slew of new bigger companies. - Heathen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0No, Apple bought those shares back.
- laurentlasalle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The Steve Jobs reference in the title is far fetched...
- cal0001, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0they both copy each other but Microsoft copied first
- jonnymj, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0doesn't Microsoft still own part of Apple? just wondering.
- FunkyGuy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0If bill gates said this, you guys would be outrated, and trying to act cool by saying how much microsoft sucks.
- adml_shake, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0^^ abuse the legal system and sue the ***** out of them!
- revokin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0If you can't beat 'em...
- elShaggy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0At least Jobs has the balls to openly call them out when he feels wronged.
- trex, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0guys, it was a sarcastic comment. Read Scoble's blog for the context.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I would have punched Jobs square in the face for saying something like that.
- Swift2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Jeez, the guy makes one sarcastic comment, and it's a flame war. Honestly, look at the Vista beta. Gee, transparency. Oh, look at the blue buttons on the dialog boxes. Etc., etc. Apple's "look and feel" lawsuit failed a long time ago, so as a matter of legality, it's finished. I suppose imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Apple "borrows" technology, calls it their own...
http://weblog.physorg.com/news2519.html - KriLL3.2™, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0As the TWIT's say... The thought of OSX released on x86 must make bill really hot at night.
- blhack, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0This Just in.....All the KDE developers are going to sue Mac....after that the people who do fvwm-crystal are going to have a go....then hUH!!! it's gnome's turn.
- p2btech, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Whatever dude. You probably own an eMachine and eat McDonalds. Safari rocks...it's certainly a lot faster/more stable/generally better in all ways than IE6 and has a much better GUI than Firefox."
Everything is better than IE, that's not even an argument anymore.
As for the GUI better than Firefox, they're pretty much the same. Extremely similar. - ping, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0i was watching pirastes of silicon valley last week, this was the basis of the movie set 25 years ago
- CountZero, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I remember hearing this bit on TWiT, about Stevie, and how, essentially, he has a guy follow him around at Apple, so if he gets annoyed with someone and tells them that they're fired, the guy will let the person know that they are not actually fired.
Frankly, if you're willing to essentially to fire someone for piddly little things, and have someone follow you around to make sure that the person you've "fired" knows that they actually haven't been fired. That says something, to me, and, at least in part, reminds me of a cross between Henry Van Statten from the Doctor Who episode "Dalek" and House from, well, "House MD".
So, I would not be surprised if this actually happened, but it wasn't so much Steve actually thinks that necessarily, but more like Steve just felt like being a jerk.
(Oh, and note: Whoever handles the spell-checker dictionary, I reccomend adding the word "Dalek" to the dictionary, as the your spell-checker marked it as being a misspelled word. Thank you). - ArchAngel21x, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0No *****, Mr Jobs.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Things are always taken out of context." - From what I've heard, Steve Jobs is a very cocky guy, so I wouldn't suggest it's far from the truth, but only two people really know the truth.
- p2btech, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"First, Apple has been working on Dashboard for longer than Konfabulator has been around. Second, I would say it is more of a blast from the past of Desktop Accessories from the old Mac."
Probably not, unless Apple was working on there current OS around 5 years before it was released, which is possible but Dashboard wouldn't have been in the works that early. Konfabulator came out in 2000, at that time if Apple was even working on this current version (that has dashboard) of OSX then it wasn't Dashboard, it was probably minor bug, fixes things like that. - lollerskates, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0A couple of guys who used to work at Bell Labs developing UNIX bumped into Steve Jobs and Bill Gates. "It's nice to see that you're still copying our stuff."
- adml_shake, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Since when has Microsoft ever invented anything on their own? Sure you can name some small little thing that they might have refined, but all they do is buy up peoples ideas/companies relable it and sell it as their own. However the problem people have is that they don't let you know thats what they did, instead they tell you this was a inhouse devoloped idea. Then they release 100's of documents and statements saying how what they did is a improvement over anything on the market and that people would be silly and dumb for using anything else.
"The appropriate comeback for the Microsoftie would have been:
"Yeah, well at least our code runs on 97% of the world's computers.""
and the retort to that would be..."at least our code is built on something that is solid and that WORKS. Or are you talking about something other that Windows 95 Service pack 1000?" - macattacks10, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Konfabulator. Shut up, Steve."
First, Apple has been working on Dashboard for longer than Konfabulator has been around. Second, I would say it is more of a blast from the past of Desktop Accessories from the old Mac. - pinc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0ummm, wasn't this already a known fact?
- steamynachos, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It's immature smack talk for nerds.
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