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- jesburger, on 07/11/2009, -3/+102I may be experimenting a bug? Woah!
- Aurabolt, on 07/10/2009, -8/+99***** that, just use CCleaner.
- inactive, on 07/11/2009, -15/+96HI BILLY MAYS HERE FOR FOXY CLEAN. TIRED OF SLOW START UPS? DONT WANT YOUR MOM TO SEE YOUR NAKED PORN? FOXY CLEAN DOES IT ALL.
- Subduction, on 07/11/2009, -6/+61Hate to say it, but as a desktop operating system it is a second-class OS. Actually third, if you're being specific.
- Scroogl, on 07/11/2009, -0/+53Thank you! I've been googling this since 3.5 and just couldn't understand why IE loaded 10x faster. I actually gave up last night, digg serendipity FTW!
- Subduction, on 07/11/2009, -0/+46So Firefox uses a huge number disk i/o operation, the biggest bottleneck in the whole machine, to generate keys?
- dtfinch, on 07/11/2009, -1/+38I've been wondering why it spends 20 seconds touching all those files (watched it in process monitor) when it starts up. I was pretty sure it was doing something absolutely worthless, and I was right. And every time I've mentioned it, tons of people come out of nowhere to defend it, bringing up how quickly it starts on subsequent runs. Of course those times will be faster than a cold start.
Edit: I have both FF2 and FF3.5 installed on my system. 2 cold starts in 2 seconds, while 3.5 starts in 30. Chrome cold starts in about half a second or less. - jesburger, on 07/11/2009, -0/+32Why don't I just cut off my penis while I'm at it?
- LordofChaosIori, on 07/11/2009, -1/+30Oh gee I wonder why it loads so well for ya?
/jealous - Rikkochet, on 07/11/2009, -2/+25Firefox uses a huge number of disk I/O to do practically everything. I really wish they'd work on that.
- jesburger, on 07/11/2009, -0/+21experimenting*
- unr8d, on 07/11/2009, -3/+23I loved firefox until now. Wtf is up with this slowness?
- bencanfield, on 07/11/2009, -1/+20Yeah, we all give a ***** what your specs are.
- Subduction, on 07/11/2009, -0/+19Don't forget to put a gradient, drop shadow, bevel and an inner glow on your penis before cutting it off. That's how we'll know it's related to the Mac.
- InactiveCargo, on 07/11/2009, -0/+19Why? The bug is in Firefox, not Windows.
- shadowmoose, on 07/11/2009, -3/+22I like how Digg was praising Firefox 3.5 when it came out and completely ignored all the websites reporting major bug's in the program. Some people are counting over 50 but I suppose what you consider major may vary. Tunnel vision Digg?
- Stap1eGun, on 07/11/2009, -0/+18Hey don't joke around! I had a very bad experiment with this myself and it's not pretty.
- LordofChaosIori, on 07/11/2009, -1/+16You should check it out on Mac, I seriously had to stop using it and switched to Safari because it hogs resources like no tomorrow. I uninstalled all the add-ons except for adblock and it still takes ages to boot up and when you have youtube or (god-forbid) hulu (which is bad on ANY browser), my Macbook goes into overdrive.
- illuminat, on 07/11/2009, -4/+18Youtube Video showing the bug:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cWzWil_h8s - m6arate, on 07/11/2009, -0/+14CCleaner cleans up after many programs in addition to firefox. Still usefull.
- nerddtvg, on 07/11/2009, -0/+13Experimenting is a properly spelled word.
- SquishyMon, on 07/11/2009, -1/+14do you even have to ask?
- unr8d, on 07/11/2009, -0/+10@1rage- Sorry boss, I am not made out of money. Way to rub it in my face.
- ZippyV, on 07/11/2009, -0/+10Even worse, a random number generator is available in every operating system's cryptography library yet Mozilla decides to create their own flawed implementation.
- jakobmakob, on 07/11/2009, -2/+11If you find yourself with very long startup times after upgrading to Firefox 3.5 (from say 10 seconds to the order of minutes), you may be experimenting a bug due to a change in how Firefox 3.5 gets the randomness it needs for security purposes on Windows.
The procedure involves scanning some temporary folders looking for bits normally added by OS and other applications operations. Firefox 3.5 looks for more files and deeper (more subfolders) for increased randomness, but it has led to unexpected results for users with too many temporary folders or files resulting in slow startups.
Try builds are still being generated with fixes to this bug, but users report a noticeable improvement after deleting their temporary folders and Internet Temporary Files (generated by Internet Explorer).
To clean temporary folders, check and delete all files [you can, some may be in use] from these:
C:\Documents and Settings\*user*\Local Settings\History
C:\Documents and Settings\*user*\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files
C:\Documents and Settings\*user*\My Recent Documents
C:\Documents and Settings\*user*\Temp\
Windows Vista /7 users, replace Documents and Settings with Users
To delete Internet Temporary Folders, in the Control Panel., open Internet Options. In the Browsing History section, press the Delete… button, check all the options and press Delete.
IE 8 Delete Browsing History
Users report a significant improvement after doing this, even those who use Internet Explorer once in a while.
A fix to this bug should become available with Firefox 3.5.1, expected in a few weeks. - deadpoetic333, on 07/11/2009, -2/+11Yeah what a great idea! I love over paying for things, it's the best.
- triassic911, on 07/11/2009, -1/+10windows me 32mb ram .0003 single core processor and it loads wonderful for meeeeeeeeeeee
- jessenoob, on 07/11/2009, -2/+10Rule 34
- BradMajors, on 07/11/2009, -1/+9OK. Now why does it take my Firefox about 30 seconds to shut down?
- DivisibleByZero, on 07/11/2009, -2/+10Their forum post said to check how many files you have in your IE cache. Their tester couldn't repro the bug with 4,000 files in there.
Evidently I have at least 200,000 (Windows was taking longer to count the files than Firefox does to start so I just gave up. Deleting them is taking even longer...).
I've used IE twice on this box. Once to download Firefox and once to look at a CSS bug on a customer's page. - nm3210, on 07/11/2009, -1/+9I really don't think this is what you had in mind: http://foxyclean.co.uk/
- jdmulloy, on 07/11/2009, -13/+21You think Firefox is slow on Windows? It's awful on Linux, I really wish they would stop treating Linux as a second class OS.
- inactive, on 07/11/2009, -3/+11I does seem like FF has been given a free pass for a while now, which was understandable, seeing as how it had the add ons, was better than IE and was the first real alternative browser to pose a threat to it, but c'mon, it still requires tweaking? Still hogs memory, has all these bugs,exploits and slow start ups? It's stuff like that, plus that whole Adblock vs NoScript duel where the latter started effing with the browser that eventually turned me off.
I'm good with Opera, but whatever floats your boat - slash1890, on 07/11/2009, -2/+9Naked porn? There are other kinds?
- alexsabree, on 07/11/2009, -0/+7All you read was the title huh?
Wow... makes me wonder how people survive with such laziness. - darkNiGHTS, on 07/11/2009, -1/+8wtf was up with that music
- techdever, on 07/11/2009, -1/+7For me it's a 0.0000001s startup time on my 1048576 core IBM BlueGene
- TheSnuffster, on 07/11/2009, -2/+8Yeh, I really don't like the sound of this at all. There's no need for it.
- stockjones, on 07/11/2009, -0/+5It is slow to start. And I found it a bit buggy from the get go but this is Digg. Got to give Chrome the speed title.
- maehem, on 07/11/2009, -0/+5I didn't know you could "experiment" a bug. I have "experienced" them though.
- fistandoodle, on 07/11/2009, -3/+8"Firefox 3.5 looks for more files and deeper (more subfolders) for increased randomness"
"Firefox 3.5 gets the randomness it needs for security purposes on Windows."
Wha?
I have a program that can generate random assortments of letters/numbers/etc, that work very well for passwords. Takes no time and little CPU usage. What's wrong with creating something totally at random? Why look at a users machine for data? Data that, while seemingly random, if its in the temp files, could help track that user, find out where they've been, or otherwise possibly identify them? What's REALLY going on? - exeprime, on 07/11/2009, -1/+6*its
- exeprime, on 07/11/2009, -0/+5WHAT THE HECK IS IN OUR WATER SUPPLY!?!
- nicc, on 07/11/2009, -1/+6because until 3.5 Digg loaded and ran like utter crap in Firefox.
- ZippyV, on 07/11/2009, -1/+6Every operating system has a cryptograpy library that can generate unpredictable random numbers. There is no reason for Mozilla to reinvent the wheel.
- Amadeus2490, on 07/11/2009, -0/+5www.ccleaner.com
- xdevit, on 07/12/2009, -0/+4Its not a bug.. its a feature..
- Hraes, on 07/11/2009, -1/+5That's... blatantly untrue.
- DoctorShapes, on 07/11/2009, -0/+4When this happens I always end up clicking it multiple times causing multiple windows to come out at once, slowing my relatively powerful computer.
I'm using Chrome now. - Hraes, on 07/11/2009, -0/+4It takes a while to placate all of the tortured orphan souls that it runs on. I mean, have you ever tried to hush tortured orphan souls? Trust me, it takes some time.
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