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- gcube9x, on 10/12/2007, -2/+20It's not even .2 yet. Give the DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS some time, jesus!
- geminitojanus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16If you think iTunes for Windows is bloated, you should definitely stick with Foobar.
For some people, minimalist interfaces work brilliantly, and they simply don't need eyecandy or want any of the features that some of the bigger packages include. But then again, for most of us, we thrive off of having every last feature possible (even if it's likely we'll never use them all), in a nice, sleek package. iTunes delivers, and now Songbird is shaping up (though it's still the mother of all unstable software but that's to be expected at this early age).
I think more than anything it's probably the best demonstration of XUL as a platform, and I think that's more important than anything else to Mozilla; even if it's not the world's most successful playback platform, it demonstrates that XUL is actually mature enough to start developing applications for, which could bring a whole host of new developers to the platform. - gcube9x, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11Looks like itunes, sounds like a 'firefox with a bunch of extensions included'. I'll look into it, but if it ends up as bloated as itunes for windows, then i'm sticking to foobar2000.
- madnoh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7http://publicsvn.songbirdnest.com/trac/wiki/Nightly_Builds
- eridius, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Nice to see that they finally have binaries available for OS X.
- LxMx, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10Because iTunes is an inflexible, ugly and completely stagnant POS. Please drop the whole "ooh, intergration" junk. Songbird will, when it starts hitting 0.5 etc:
Be able to play any media format you could possibly want.
Be able to intergrate with pretty much any DRM-free web based music store.
Sync with any number of MP3 players.
Be extensible to do anything you want it to.
It's called choice, and Songbird offers it in spades. I personally can't wait. - Jcterveer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Needs some more work. But its getting better.
- LxMx, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Mate, it's not even at version 0.2 . Give it time.
- roblord, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Unlike iTunes:
Songbird can play the Web, that is Songbird can integrate with any store, subscription service, radio service, podcasting service, social networking service, (legal) P2P service, etc.
Songbird supports any device, including LAN sharing devices, portables and mobile handsets.
Songbird supports crossplatform extensions including all to most of the existing Firefox extension with minor modifications
Songbird supports "feathers", like Winamp skins, but authored in markup tags, CSS and javascript so any MySpace user can customize at will.
And more, but I think that differentiates it from iTunes. =) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Not-yet-0.2, see the release notes for details on bugs etc at http://publicsvn.songbirdnest.com/trac/wiki/ReleaseNotes_02ny20060626
- gsmolders, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4People, please. The whole idea of Songbird is so completely differeny from iTunes or Winamp...
Songbird wants to tie into ALL the web, not just a business. They want you as a user to have choice and be empowered to use the services you like. Just this difference is very important; the freedom of choice.
So naturally if you don't like it, you just stick with itunes or winamp or amarok. And all will be well. - Gizem82, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4While it isn't version 0.2, this "Developer Preview" should tide me over in the meantime.
- itsbeach, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3people people people... Songbird is a music browser. No one is doing this. Apple would never do this. Look into it a bit more before you call it a rip-off. This is a totally new way of organizing, playing, and grabbing music. Sweet, independent services can be built explicitly for songbird. MP3 blogs take on a whole new meaning with songbird. Songbird has the potential to change the way you find and experience music....
- chicken101, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3In ubuntu it didn't seem to want to play any music -- and I couldn't find any engine preferences. I'm sticking with Amarok for now, but it looks promising!
- evilgod69, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3you may have lined up the technical abilities nicely, but you have failed to consider how the user interface works. personally, i HATE amarok. but i can't wait for songbird to be stable on my linux box.
- roblord, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I'm playing all my MP3s with Songbird on both MacBooks and MacBook Pros here. Odd.
- colincornaby, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Does anyone else think it's funny how when running on Mac OS X, Songbird uses QuickTime for it's playback? Basically on the Mac it uses iTunes' playback engine.
- mzilikazi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Well which player? It needs to be crossplatform and play ALL media types not just crippled, low quality DRM crap and mp3's. I personally use only flac & ogg AND I like choice. What player offers me that?
- roblord, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Songbird iPod extension: http://www.songbirdnest.com/node/476
And yes, Songbird plays videos. - roblord, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Right, Quicktime is used by nearly all Apple and third-party media playing apps on OS X because its pre-installed works. =)
More broadly, Songbird is media core agnostic. It works with Quicktime, Windows Media, VLC, MPlayer and other cores thus supporting all available codecs and DRM schemes. Different platform/OSs have different media cores pre-installed/available, but the Songbird API to them is the same. - JakeMcMahon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Songbird is a lovely bt of would-be software, hope is 'takes off'. I'm liking the farting bird logo.
- dixonr315, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6Agreed. I think its great there is another media player, no problem with choice or anything. But the look and feel is trying very hard to be iTunes but won't be able to play songs I bought from the store, but it seems to offer a lot of the same features (smart playlists etc) so I will stick with playlists. But it is cool they are doing this for all major platforms, I can applaud that gesture, just nothing Ill download myself.
- jkoshi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2We did see this working for 0.1.1b, but not on our most recent version...
- Gizem82, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I believe there's an extension already available for iPod compatibility.
- SmeRndmGy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I've been using this for a few weeks and I really like it. The red skin is awful, and it is definitely not a finished product, but it has a lot of potential. I like how the browser is integrated into the player so you can look up lyrics and such. When this project matures I see it becoming a very good player. I have downloaded the early builds of firefox (before it was even called firefox) and it was pretty bad. Now it is (arguably) the best browser available. Give songbird some time and I could see the same thing happening here. For the people who love their macs and their ipods and their itunes and their osx and anything else that drops out of Apple's *****, this is probably not for you. Stick to things that start with the letter i and maintain your false sense of superiority. For people with an open mind, give this software a try. Even if it doesn't replace whatever you currently use as your main music software, you will probably discover some aspects of it that you like.
- inc4, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2don't forget to post your bugs in bugzilla.songbirdnest.com and join us for idle or chat about your problems you are having at irc.landoleet.org and join #songbird. This is the offical songbird channel.
- Jonzo, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6I've heard alot about this thing but I still don't understand what makes it so good or useful.
- decades, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3You need to try Billy (URL below). It's the most amazingly lightweight MP3 player I've ever come across.
http://www.sheepfriends.com/?page=billy - roblord, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2>> If you run a music service, you can leverage Songbird's APIs to create deeply integrated stores and user features.
> How many of you run your own music service?
Wrong implication. Ask yourself this instead: as a user would you like to use the store, subscription service, podcast directory, radio directory, video directory, social network, (legal) P2P tracker, playlist trading CMS service, etc. of your own choosing? Would you like to be able to switch out any of those and swap in something new without changing your media player? =) - CubiX, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2It keeps offering me a 'Download Songbird 0.1.1b for Windows (English, 8.6MB, XP/2k)'. Where are the linux binaries, sources?
iPod support would be cool. - Skyhoper, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Rock On! Chirp. Chirp.
- doubledoh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1If you want to be able to play your music wherever you want without restrictions, you need to STOP supporting apple by buying DRM'd tracks from iTunes. Until the music industry gets their heads out of their asses, I suggest downloading DRM-free songs from the ed2k network, or from one of the bittorrent sites (torrentz.com is a good search engine). If you feel bad about not paying for the music, send the artist a paypal donation directly.
- tato, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I agree. I'm ready to get away from ITunes. Now if only I can find a decent app that suports the IPod!
- mzilikazi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Kudos to the developers! Thanks for this software. As for the rest of you whiners - get over it. Some of us would never use itunes even if Apple did offer a Linux version because we like to be in control instead of the other way around. ;) And for you KDE/Amarok lovers well believe it or not some of us don't like KDE either. (yes i know you're all in shock) So.......if you're happy with your current media player stfu and rock on. But if you'd like to contribute something useful (instead of whining) test the builds and send in good bug reports. At least songbird is crossplatform. Can you say that about itunes or Amarok? Nope I don't think so.
- Adroyt, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I'll probably try out the Linux binaries but to be honest Amarok and iTunes pretty much have it sewn up.
- dblyth, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1"If you run a music service, you can leverage Songbird's APIs to create deeply integrated stores and user features."
How many of you run your own music service? - greg9683, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I liked it, but it defintely was a memory hog. I thought Itunes for Windows worked better(not that its too effective on Windows-since it was built for Mac).
- xamox, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I tried using songbird, but it crawls. I listen to podcast/mp3's all day at work. I have tried numerous mp3 players mainly because I am a programmer, and compiling sucks up my CPU time so I need a mp3 player that is lightweight. I have used iTunes(ridiculous resource hog), Windows Media Player, VLC, flash based players, winamp, mplayer, etc. The best player I have found is winamp lite, on average it uses 15-20% while all the others use around 40-50%.
- dragazis, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Yeah, I think I'll wait for the first developer preview or two. I know it's in it's early stages, but it crashed on me 3 times in a matter of ten minutes with it using 46% CPU at one point. This is on a G4 Powerbook with 1gig of ram, only having songbird and safari running.
- evilgod69, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2the problem with those, is that there is no linux version
- arcterex, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1@mikaelc (new digg comment won't let me reply directly to your comment....)
I think that he means the overall itunes package, not playing an mp3. itunes itself is a hog, or feels like one to me. Not a hog like something like visual studio, but compared to say, winamp. - tinzy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3I tried it earlier this year, but it was slow, and I didn't really like it. It was like Firefox and iTunes only worse. I don't need to have eeverything built in.
- freevicente, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1This has lots of errors on my Ubuntu Dapper Distro. =/ Pity, I'd like it
- cassminter, on 06/21/2008, -0/+0http://fantasymp3.net/katie-melua/pictures-downloa ...
http://fantasymp3.net/bob-dylan/the-freewheelin-bo ...
http://fantasymp3.net/maroon-5/it-won-t-be-soon-be ...
http://fantasymp3.net/goldfrapp/seventh-tree-downl ... - SmeRndmGy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I just tried the .2 version and the sound sounds awful for some reason. Can't complain because it is a nightly build, but I will be switching back to the 0.1 preview version for now.
- mduser63, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Too bad it won't play anything on my Intel Mac. It reports that all songs are 1:22 long and when you click on them, the progress bar is 17 seconds in and doesn't move. No sound of course, either. It did find all my iTunes Library, but didn't recognize any of the artist and album tags, so I couldn't browse any of the music except in a flat playlist.
- bballpaul, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Works great!
I can definitely see this program succeeding in the future. The programmers are definitely pointing it in the right direction. - texnofobix, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1My opinion is why not help work on expanding what is out there than making a new player. There are millions of players it seems. I do want to wish the developers luck though. I hope they make an option to use a mysql backend database in the future.
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