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- katana346, on 12/02/2008, -5/+99This release is monumental. Congratulations Songbird team!
- BrettFromTibet, on 12/02/2008, -5/+83Finally.. Mac users have a real alternative to the closed, proprietary, DRM-infested iTunes player! Go open source! Go digital music freedom!
- necromancer, on 12/03/2008, -4/+68I just downloaded it to test it.
iTunes: 99,852 K mem usage
songbird: 239,548 K mem usage.
As bloated as iTunes is, songbird is apparently worse. - insllvn, on 12/02/2008, -0/+55If only there was some way to break them out of this jail of which you speak...
- takua108, on 12/02/2008, -6/+52If they just supported the iPod touch, this would most definitely replace iTunes for me.
- spokenrope, on 12/03/2008, -1/+40Why the hell is that bird farting all the time? Drives me crazy.
- kreeger, on 12/02/2008, -2/+39Apple's got the iPod touch and the iPhone locked down (in jail, if you will), so it's near impossible for other developers to support the device with their software.
- motang, on 12/02/2008, -2/+33This is awesome! Plus they have a 64bit version out!
- Auzy, on 12/03/2008, -2/+32Apple's doesn't want anyone else but themselves getting apps and music on their phone. Its an anti-competition thing. By locking it down to itunes only, people are likely to buy all music from ITMS, and they prevent competing application stores starting up.
Even if its broken, Apple will just change the way things are done next firmware update. The problem is that people aren't creating enough noise about it, and are instead accepting about it, but everyone should start a petition to get the iphone fully unlocked.
Its a surprise that only psystar has tried suing apple for their monopolistic behavior - thefinger, on 12/03/2008, -6/+30I use Winamp and I don't understand all the hoopla about Foobar.
- shufan, on 12/02/2008, -2/+25Yes, finally! Goodbye iTunes! This is just the start too. I'm looking forward to the continued growth and improvement of songbird.
- munikho, on 12/03/2008, -1/+24he is having trouble with some bugs...
- newdigger, on 12/03/2008, -5/+25I use foobar2000, and I don't understand all the hoopla about this player.
- hawksfan03, on 12/02/2008, -1/+20I wish it was easy to add podcast subscriptions... there may be but I can't seem to figure it out
- Leopards, on 12/03/2008, -0/+17Needs to hit the Ubuntu Repositories, then it will really take of!
- Cglass, on 12/03/2008, -1/+17[insert product/program] killer
- jrbrewin, on 12/03/2008, -2/+17i'm all for open source and everything, but really, did they need to rip the itunes interface so much? there are some great media jukebox software apps out there that offer great user interfaces that songbird could have taken cues from, but itunes?
And yes, i realise that is criticising apple on digg and i'll be duggdown in to next week, but it gets my goat that certain OSS developers don't innovate in the user interface arena as much as they do in others. - Pinkshisno, on 12/03/2008, -0/+15RAGE.
- katana346, on 12/02/2008, -0/+13There are several alternatives in Songbird for downloading music. First I would hit up the Add-ons page and look under content and discovery (which seems to be running slowly right now due to heavy traffic :)
[here are the two I found, so you don't have to deal with the heavy traffic getting through the Addons site]
[ http://addons.songbirdnest.com/addon/226 - Magnatune Add-on] and [ http://addons.songbirdnest.com/addon/3 - E-Music Add-on.]
Also, check out the skreemr and hype machine search engine's, which I believe come with the download. They arent as easy to use and you cant get entire albums at a time but they are still kind of useful. You're best bet is probably using an Add-on though. - geoken, on 12/03/2008, -0/+12A Zune is a mp3 player. It's kind of like an iPod Classic except it has more features, a bigger screen, better software, better UI, etc.
It's not popular at Starbucks and I don't think anyone on The Hills uses one so I can understand why you've never heard of it. - newdigger, on 12/03/2008, -2/+12Ehh. The newest version is about as bloated as iTunes.
- Woodstove, on 12/03/2008, -2/+12itunes will be off my pc by the end of the night(period)
- inactive, on 12/03/2008, -1/+10Hopefully there'll be a *.deb out soon.
- shufan, on 12/03/2008, -0/+8Actually, Songbird does. Just not for the iPod Touch or iPhone.
- kyle1852, on 12/02/2008, -2/+10This makes for (by far) the best music experience on my PC ever!
- mrsteveman1, on 12/03/2008, -0/+8There are 2 issues here, first the switch to usbmux away from MSC mode. OS X (and windows once you install itunes and its frameworks) allows apps to read the iphone and ipod touch media partition easily, no hacking needed. If you don't believe me go grab DiskAid, you end up getting access to the same files you would get to on a nano or classic, namely the media files, and the database.
Second is the hash on that database. This is the real problem, not MSC mode (which users bitch about without understanding for some reason). There was a story recently about Apple sending a DMCA anti-circumvention notice to the FOSS project that reverse engineered this hash, and this is now the single point preventing interoperability even though the DMCA explicitly allows such hacking.
It's going to be an arms race for sure, but it shouldn't be a huge problem going forward unless apple keeps trying to abuse the law. - jfg84, on 12/03/2008, -0/+8I don't see why this is so exciting, ITunes is ok but it's a memory hog.... and so is Songbird. I can do my blog searching in Firefox, what's needed is a music manager that handles all iPods, isn't bloated and looks decent.
- Romanito, on 12/03/2008, -0/+8He was talking about Winamp being bloated.
foobar2000 is still lightweight. - format, on 12/03/2008, -0/+7Still no 'fetching missing covers' for the album art, add that to iPod Touch/ iPhone support and it's perfect!
- shufan, on 12/03/2008, -0/+7Actually, check the extensions list. I believe I saw several that fetched missing album art. One of those fetched album art from last.fm if I remember correctly.
- Lewie, on 12/03/2008, -0/+7NEEDS:
- Sort: Artist>Album by year
- Compilation setting
- CD Burning as said above
I can never seem to pull myself away from iTunes without these features. - powatom, on 12/02/2008, -1/+8Not a big fan of the recently changed theme, but I guess it's easy to change. Songbird has so much potential - but for me it's always been plagued with major annoyances that kept me from using it full time. Still, I'll keep trying :P
- inactive, on 12/03/2008, -2/+8This should become the standard media player of all Linux distributions. Viva Songbird!
- kspirit, on 12/03/2008, -0/+6This provides all the features I want from an audio player. Lyrics, photos, artist info, album art. This is kickass.
And one of the coolest features I've been looking for is the ability to search for songs with artist's name in other languages just by using the English alphabet. - notwizt, on 12/03/2008, -1/+7You're a ***** idiot.
- Mude, on 12/03/2008, -0/+6I'm looking forward to this...finally.
And kudos for making the bird in the mascot appear to be farting as it crosses the finish line. - JoelJ, on 12/03/2008, -0/+6I agree and disagree with you.
Why whine about memory usage? We have lots of it. But at the same time, cheap ram isn't an excuse to be a lazy developer.
I love song bird and use it except to sync with my iPod Touch. Love it. - csarak, on 12/02/2008, -0/+6All the more awesome if they did indeed fix the crashes that were plaguing me. Anyway, congratulations on the release and the cute mascot!
- Auzy, on 12/03/2008, -0/+6Ubuntu users may also consider voting for "better gnome integration for songbird" on ubuntu brainstorm:
http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/16153/
I'd love to see integration at the point that this becomes the main media player (its certainly the most flexible and suitable, only some functionality like CD ripping due in april needs to catch up) - Auzy, on 12/03/2008, -1/+7Actually the reason Apple are putting so much effort into the encryption and such is to stop other media players to work with it.. There wont be an API because Apple also don't want there to be competing software/music stores.
Thats the main reason they are doing this. The older ipods they couldn't sell software for, but now, the iphone/ipod touch they can, and 30% profit on sales is a lot of dough.
If people don't use itunes, they also don't buy off ITMS! - Auzy, on 12/03/2008, -0/+5And there is even a quicktime plugin available, so that you can play your DRM infested fairplay ITMS music files too in songbird (until you can strip away the protection).
The only bad thing is that there is no CD ripping yet, but i'd be surprised if someone didn't cook something up as an extension - ernasty10050, on 12/03/2008, -3/+8Where is the equalizer? I really can't like this until there's an equalizer. Windows Media Player may be ***** and slow but it makes my music sound good and that is what counts most to me.
- Virgule, on 12/03/2008, -1/+6HA! 0.7.0 icon was an egg about to hatch now it is a little chick!
- robinthehood, on 12/03/2008, -0/+5cough... MTP support IN LINUX... cough
- inactive, on 12/03/2008, -0/+5In that case you use foobar2000.
- Whaines, on 12/03/2008, -0/+5I think you accidentally some of your comment.
- mufffin, on 12/03/2008, -0/+5This is the fourth time I have downloaded songbird, and the fourth time I promised myself to never download it again. Each time I hope for something different, yet I got the same bloated crap.
- zwaldowski, on 12/03/2008, -1/+6There are (computer) apps that use the Apple Mobile Device Framework to access the iPod/iPhone's root file system without a jailbreak. I love Songbird, but there is no reason for it to not have iPhone support. Some goes for video library.
- zwaldowski, on 12/03/2008, -1/+5@slick519: My iPhone would BEG to differ.
- gieroy, on 12/03/2008, -0/+4Ubuntu Installer
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