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- BillyK, on 11/29/2007, -5/+227Fantastic. But can anyone find a link to the actual software?
- ell0bo, on 11/29/2007, -2/+200Considering what I'm paying... I don't need software to tell me this.
- jhshukla, on 11/29/2007, -0/+97http://www.eff.org/testyourisp/pcapdiff/
- jkavvy, on 11/29/2007, -0/+71That's weird. Everytime I click on the link my ISP cuts off.
It's probably just coincidence. - inactive, on 11/29/2007, -1/+71Direct Link to EFF page: http://www.eff.org/press/archives/2007/11/28
- makingme, on 11/29/2007, -0/+49How many neighbors do you encounter with uber hack skills? Yeah, thats what I thought.
- TH3W1R3D, on 11/29/2007, -3/+51Useful to see which of my neighbors wifi connections are limited.
- Treshnell, on 11/29/2007, -1/+48I was paying, for about two years, for a 3Mb down cable connection from Charter. I found out 3 months ago that I was getting less than 1MB down because someone "forgot" to upgrade our account. They fixed it, but I received no discount or money back on my time and money lost.
- dfg59, on 11/29/2007, -2/+41Software to determine if your ISP is screwing you:
puts "Please enter your ISP name"
isp_name = gets
if isp_name.downcase == "comcast"
puts "Yes"
else
puts "Probably"
end - SwornPacifist, on 11/29/2007, -0/+38Here's how they are testing it, and how to run the test yourself:
http://www.eff.org/wp/detecting-packet-injection
And here's the tool to interpret your trace files:
http://www.eff.org/testyourisp/pcapdiff/ - TH3W1R3D, on 11/29/2007, -0/+29An Associated Press investigation, published last month, confirmed in nationwide tests that Comcast Corp., the No. 2 U.S. Internet provider, interfered with attempts by some subscribers to it's high-speed service to share files online. EFF, which had been running its own tests, later said its findings were consistent with the AP's results.
The tests revealed that a PC would see messages from Comcast that were invisible to the user that told it to stop communicating, which would lead it to cancel a download or upload. - capiCrimm, on 11/29/2007, -0/+26they weren't messages from Comcast. Comcast spoofed their and your identity. It would be like you were talking to someone on the phone. Then all of a sudden you hear them say bye and hang up, and they hear you say bye and hang up. Neither of you, however, said goodbye. It was the phone company.
- MerryMortician, on 11/29/2007, -4/+29seems to me that is your problem. one of the first things i do is measure speed and bitch about it.
- limewood, on 11/30/2007, -0/+21puts "Yes"
I optimized your code a little - K3ITHK, on 11/30/2007, -0/+19It's usually just safe to assume you are getting screwed.
- kaelyiesta, on 11/29/2007, -2/+21This software, while interesting, still does not catch the problems with physical connection quality issues. I wonder if its possible to write something(web app) that would allow potential customers to see just how well connected any given geographical location would be, so instead of going off of some ISPs ***** bandwidth figures they give us, users could type in an address and an ISP to see just how close they are to some ISPs infrastructure. Perhaps an average top speed from nearby residences could be provided as well. This would probably require voluntary submission of information by lots of people to work, so maybe it's not very feasible. I bring up this point because even moving around within a fairly large city, I notice different average speeds on similar machines with the same ISP. People aught to get some idea of what they are truly going to get when shopping for a provider.
- tnoy, on 11/29/2007, -1/+18"Comcast says it does not block access to any applications but does use sophisticated technologies to keep Internet connections running smoothly."
They aren't going to BLOCK you from using a torrent, just slow your connection down to a smooth 10b/s. - radial, on 11/29/2007, -2/+18gesh how useless can this article and eff page be with no link to the software?
- Nidy1, on 11/30/2007, -0/+16You think your work ISP is screwing you?
- reversekilled, on 11/29/2007, -0/+15the full process is WAY more involved than just downloading the software and running it
- Monk22, on 11/29/2007, -0/+14so you didn't feel it was necessary in the slightest to explain why a cable company would give you DS's? because that ***** doesn't make any sense
- TH3W1R3D, on 11/29/2007, -2/+16I will take that risk.
- piesforyou, on 11/29/2007, -2/+16cya
- loltron, on 11/29/2007, -9/+22this has fail written all over it. where the hell can we get at this software? another perfect example of bloggers/news stories being as useless as possible by talking without actually giving the only real useful info we need. A ***** LINK TO DOWNLOAD.
- ftgarcia, on 11/29/2007, -0/+12So yeah great article by MSNBC not including and software download links. The only thing I could find was a howto detect packet injecting using tools like wireshark -> http://www.eff.org/wp/detecting-packet-injection . Is this it?
- spudnic, on 11/29/2007, -2/+13Just so I have this straight, you have offered an alternative that requires more work, and expect to be praised for it?
- inactive, on 11/29/2007, -0/+10That's like a restaurant that has an all you can eat buffet and then tells the customers they can only eat one serving because some fat ***** ate too much yesterday. They should have stocked up enough food, or called it an all you SHOULD eat buffet. When they tell me I will get a certain speed they should assume I will be using the connection. Bad planning on their part isn't a misuse of bandwidth on our part.
- Smok3y, on 11/29/2007, -4/+14They're not encrypting it... that's consent enough for me.
- inactive, on 09/11/2008, -0/+10there's an ad-hoc network here called 'Free Wi-Fi' ... very suspect.
- Yage2006, on 11/30/2007, -0/+10Nice job reporting NBC
/Sarcasm
They do not even mention the name of the app or give a link to it.
All they mention is "the software"
Another great example of how vacuous mainstream news has become - omgitsmit, on 11/29/2007, -0/+10Amen.
- haterrade, on 11/29/2007, -1/+10man that's *****, you should have left (or atleast threatened to leave) or sued or something..there had to have been something you could have done
- doktorzee, on 11/29/2007, -0/+9Is there a mirror? My work blocks the EFF :(
- mojaam, on 11/29/2007, -2/+11So how does a regular windows user use install and compile source code. I though it will just be an EXE.
- zachshmack, on 11/30/2007, -4/+12So if your neighbor's front door is unlocked, they're giving you consent to walk into their home?
- tcpip4lyfe, on 11/29/2007, -0/+8README
REQUIREMENTS
This version of pcapdiff requires a modern version of Python and the pcapy
library. While it should be able to run on any platform where these two
things are available (Unix-like OSes, Microsoft Windows, and MacOS X), it
has only been tested extensively on GNU/Linux with Python 2.4.4 and
pcapy 0.10.4.
If your OS doesn't package the pcapy Python modules, you can get it here:
http://oss.coresecurity.com/projects/pcapy.html - MackenzieArbour, on 11/29/2007, -3/+11http://xkcd.com/341/
- doctornkul, on 11/29/2007, -1/+8All you have to do is divide by 8, it's not that hard
- steffinb, on 11/29/2007, -0/+7The link that everyone is looking for is right here: http://www.eff.org/wp/detecting-packet-injection
The program is called "Wireshark" and it's downloadable through any Linux package manager - wvdavis, on 11/29/2007, -1/+7Man this sux: "The Websense category "Advocacy Groups" is filtered."
- mikemil828, on 11/29/2007, -2/+7still no link to the software
- wvdavis, on 11/29/2007, -0/+5Who would have thunk it... Websence blocking the EFF. Go figure.
- Monk22, on 11/29/2007, -0/+5i downgraded my 10Mb cable service down to the 3Mb to save some cash and they never throttled my speed back so i pay $30 for 10Mb internet. hehe
- TH3W1R3D, on 11/29/2007, -6/+10Maybe we should just help fellow diggers rather than insult them.
- Sparticuz, on 11/30/2007, -0/+4Be nice to the noobs...www.win-rar.com will (g)unzip it.
- sk8ngame, on 11/30/2007, -4/+8basically
- rarson, on 11/30/2007, -0/+4HAVE. Not of.
- specialK16, on 11/29/2007, -1/+5It's not only with those big corporations. Here in CR I was paying around $70 and the only times I ever got full speed was in the late night. I understand that during those hours no one is connected and more bandwidth is available to you, but screw that, I pay for a speed, they should give me that speed.
- spyrochaete, on 11/29/2007, -1/+5I upgraded from Rogers Express (7 down 0.5 up) to Rogers Ultra (8 down 1 up) and they upgraded me while I was on the phone. I tested my speeds immediately before and after the 10 minute phone call and I saw the difference immediately. I've heard that they throttle some ports but I just slap on encryption and I'm rocking along at full speed, no problem.
I was impressed because I've had such bad experiences with Rogers in the past. We cancelled our cable TV during that same call and they were nice enough to offer free reconnection if we changed our minds in the future. Not gonna happen though. With BT and Miro we watch what we want, when we want, and pause and rewind if we need to. - PeterBlackstone, on 11/29/2007, -0/+3From the EFF website: http://www.eff.org/wp/detecting-packet-injection
Step 1. Install Wireshark
Download a copy of Wireshark for your platform from the Wireshark home page at http://www.wireshark.org/. (Wireshark is also prepackaged for most Unix-like operating systems and may be available from your distributor's package repository. In older operating system releases, it may still be packaged under its former name, Ethereal.) Install Wireshark and make sure that you can run the program -
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