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- Sanchez, on 10/12/2007, -1/+37Trillian/GAIM/Miranda Plugin here we come, hopefully.
- mfhughes, on 10/12/2007, -7/+29The NSA had to reverse-engineer the telephone network in order to spy on their own people and stop them from thinking any thoughts Bush Administration doesn't want them to think. America is the Christian Fundamentalist to Islam's Fundamentalists. i.e. they are willing devote their lives and spend long hours to do anything to force their will on their people. Combine that with a world-renowned technology sector and military budget, and this was bound to happen.
- ayeroxor, on 10/12/2007, -2/+22Do you even know what that means? Who would you sue? In which court? How would you compel them to attend? What punishment would you be able to mete if they failed to show?
After all that, I'll bet damn good money that it's legal in their jurisdiction, and you can't logically prosecute somebody for violating laws of a region they weren't in when they committed the alleged offense.
Sue. Lol. International law is a bit more complex than that... - JakeMcMahon, on 10/12/2007, -4/+22WEAR YOUR TINFOIL HATS, PEOPLE.
- glafira, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15I thought they should have started out by opening it up. It would allow the open source community to go crazy with plugins.
- M2Ys4U, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10All they have to do is change their encryption routines slightly and push out a new update
- Darth_tater, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13Finally
- PURDooM, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11You know what this means? We should have an asterisk module for skype soon. Then its just a hop skip and a jump to having my house make free long distance calls for the rest of the year.
- cwalk, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10This is good news for everyone, but unfortunately I see Skype somehow fighting back.
- flappysocks, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9You mean force an update on skype users? Won't that just upset their userbase, and give them an incentive to switch to another sevice?
- vans12, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8If this will work with sip, this would be great with http://www.voicestick.com/ you could make completely free calls one both ends without having to switch apps.
- marnaq, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9***** yeah. Do it the American way. Bring out the sue-monkey.
- alphager, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8You have no idea how encryption works.
Reverse-engineering an algorithm does not weaken the encryption. - ThugEsquire, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9@codee: And you're retarded.
- marnaq, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Yeah, like putting a rot13 on top of everything. That'd sure get them chinese something to reverse.
- blackjack75, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Oh please Adium! Go for china!
- wbrendel, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6@mfhughes: That was one of the best side-by-side rewordings I've seen in a while. Great job making your point :-)
- Noein, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7"WTF? What's with the China love and Islamic hatred? "
I'll choose to live in China over Iraq or Afghanistan anyday, at least Chinese don't bomb Americans living in China or kidnap them and video tape their heads been sawed off. But then again i am a Chinese American so I am biased. - JoeyDeacon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6How does hacking the protocols change anything? Surely they could use the reference Skype client before anyway? This just means greater development options for custom client builders.
- palmdoc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I would very much like to see Skype for PalmOS please....
- justice7, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4"I build for China!"
It will look very nice when it's done! - foxmachia, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3i was told that they could "control" the supernode of skype network which could even paralyze the whole network. of course, it's evil.
- incubuz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I wonder if this would allow you to use other peoples skype as an anonymous proxy for arbitrary TCP connections.
- deohieu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"I build for China!"
China has been generous - mookieXL, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2No more reasons to delay Trillian Astra (let's hope free version will support Skype too)
- gotamd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I'm betting that if China did it, then our own NSA has or will quickly do it as well so you really can't have much expectation of privacy anyway.
- JohnDGeek, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Dude this was why Gizmo was created. You can add it to Astrix or PBX and your can add Gtalk, SIP, Jabber, or telephone numbers to you contact list.
Quality is as good or better to skype and they even have a conference call place that allows you to create an easy point for pod-casting. http://www.gizmoproject.com/ - foxmachia, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1maybe it would be another program that could implement the skype network
- ronin9, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'd like to see it for the Nokia 770
- justice7, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1i almost wonder if this is built off of stolen code.. that is too much for "magical reverse engineers" to figure out in such short time.. especially when skype's protocol is being updated regularly.
i claim data theft. - voipdude, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2And sue for waht? What are the damages? It is not like theft of service, it is P2P
- iSEPIC, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2QUOTE
The NSA had to reverse-engineer the telephone network in order to spy on their own people and stop them from thinking any thoughts Bush Administration doesn't want them to think.
/QUOTE
Ugh... no they didn't, ATT just gave it to them, tit for a tat if you will because ATT got the 200Mil to build the pipes, plus they got untild amounts in the 40s-80s too. - phatvolvo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1they will never know their session protocols are missing!
- shoogro, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I got it!
The Client only software code named CoolTalk. A more clear screenshot:
http://www.9skype.com/e_1073.html
Read the Title bar: Coobol - XX,00x - CooltalkXX
Cool! - tehpoutine, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I know that %20 replaces space in URLs such as the one you posted. Learn how to post links. You fail at the internet.
- voipdude, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Vans, I see you too figured out the perfect marriage!
Skype for free USA out calls, and http://www.voicestick.com for free incoming calls, local number and voicemail.
BTW if anyone goes to voicestick there web site is not clear, sign up to the Next to Nothing deal, and you get the free stuff, THEN look at the welcome email, you get $5 credit for out calls or product purchases when you sign up for the free account. It is kind of confusing. - evanwolf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1the dot net wrapper assumes you're running skype on your windows desktop.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1And if you want to put skype on any flash drive just go to here:
http://www.gruups.com/usbskype/
Also X-Ten will fit on any flash drive, and let you use ANY sip provider - ultrasoul, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It's about time free Skype international calls come knocking on everyone's front doors. Thank you China!
- mrkoje, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4I'm not sure if this is similar or not but the Skype API has already been released to allow integration within .net applications.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/visualcsharp/starterkit/default.aspx#skype
It might be just some Chinese guys including the api into their apps. - phatvolvo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2I build for china!
- foxmachia, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0http://www.coobol.com/ here here!
- Codee, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1@ThugEsqueerer
Bitch you don't know me!
Take that ick' out ya mouth!
and swallow! - EssEff, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0Ahh damn - actually that sucks. Not so much for the reverse engineering but now that damn video capable mac client (not the leaked beta) will be delayed again while they close this hole. Damndratfeckandallthat.....
- JamesWilson, on 10/12/2007, -8/+5China FTW? Go Chinese programmers! Thanks for your contribution!
Democracy and no-censorship FTW! - foxmachia, on 10/12/2007, -4/+0well, nice, just open it.
- CriX, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2WTF? What's with the China love and Islamic hatred? China has major humanitarian problems and censors information to their public. US foreign policy is much more heavily dictated by Realpolitik and standard geopolitical strategy than it is by the "Christian Agenda." I'm no fan of Intelligent Design being taught in public schools... I'm agnostic. I don't know where I'm going with this. But really. You telling me you'd like to live in China as a citizen??
- foxmachia, on 10/12/2007, -9/+3i wait and see
- khyberkitsune, on 10/12/2007, -9/+2When Skype opens their protocols, there goes their encryption 100%, as people will learn/hack their encryption (which, BTW, explains why Skype while idle uses 60-85% recources - it's constantly encrypting EVERYTHING.)
Personally, while I'm all for interoperability between programs, this was rather proprietary and useful and novel and semi non-obvious (encrypted text/voice/video for commercial/nonmilitary use,) and the Chinese reverse-engineering of this program was rather ethically and morally wrong. Of course, when it comes to the mindset of Communism (And since I've lived in a commune I'm most likely a more reliable source of information than those of you who do not live in a community-based rural area,) everything belongs to nobody, no matter who created it. It's all for the public and government, with the government controlling it. Skype should've either tried suing China or tried to lobby a few powerful countries to bomb the ***** out of China for this sort of morally-challenged behavior. Can we say "Electronic equivalent of Tienamen Square?" I thought you could. - tornasunder, on 10/12/2007, -13/+5I heard just yesterday that Skype is about to open up their protocols in general. Not to do a plug, but the guy I heard it with is developing a hybrid stats/web chat/multi-im client that just launched early beta (more like alpha). If interested http://www.chatstat.com.
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