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- lo0ol, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11You have beat me to the punch by about twelve seconds. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, of course, but this is crossing the line between inspiration and lack of creativity. Decide for yourself though:
http://www.shopify.com
http://www.blinksale.com
edit: lol, under the blog post announcing the launch, a user named "Blinksale" chimes in with the comment "Original site!" Probably not Blinksale themselves, but made me chuckle.
http://blog.jadedpixel.com/articles/2006/06/02/shopify-is-live#comments - ph33, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8hmm, h0zae their front page mentions a 3% commission off total sales up to $10,000 after which it is reduced to 2%. It's around the middle of the frontpage, under "how much does this cost me?"
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+82 years is crazy to develop something like this, I assume they must've restarted it from scratch at some point.
I personally would not go with these guys. They offer a shopping cart service ONLY. You still need to pay your merchant services provider (1 to 5% depending sales figures).
For a proper store an off-the-shelf shopping cart like X-Cart/Zencart is way better.
For a shop with few items the default Paypal shopping cart service is more than adequate.
For those that don't even want to bother setting up a site, eBay charges similar rates and offer an entire e-commerce solution with a huge customer-base for sellers. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Their design process is flawed then. 3 people shouldn't need 2 years to plan & develop a site that is (heavily?) based on other sites and still only a beta.
- TheNik, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7This is quite neat! All they need to do is add the ability to create items i.e. Cafepress. Another great feature would be to offer software downloads.
Good job, Shopify team! - dizm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Their design is almost exactly like Blinksale but it doesn't seem like they're the same company? What am I missing?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6What exactly took them 2 years? I thought RoR was supposed to be ultra-super-duper-rapid??
- sbraford, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7@abccba57 - ewww. have you actually *used* Zencart?
osCommerce & its clones are some of the worst pieces of software imaginable. it's *impossible* to get osCommerce & its offshoots to even output valid markup!
the only thing I would be concerned about with a hosted solution is being locked in to using their domain name. Hopefully you can setup a Shopify account on "yourowndomain.com" eventually. - beni, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Yay C for web apps...
- neoian, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7i dont get it. if i wanted to make a store i would do it on my own website. that's all this is. a glorified shopping cart.
- jesusphreak, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Well RoR hasn't even been around in the public for 2 years, so it has to do with their own design process.
- sporkmonger, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Eh, Rails is plenty fast for development, but I believe Shopify required a lot of yak-shaving, not the least of which was the Liquid templating system that the Shopify guys wrote. If you have a safe/secure non-evalling templating language as a dependancy for your app, well, that can push back the release date a bit.
http://home.leetsoft.com/liquid - imtigger2, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Blog spam...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Heh, I guess shopify are flattering blinksale with all their might.
- Chongo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1here here on the osCommerce defense. While there are an insane amount of table tags and lack of good CSS, the overall engine is still the best I've come across (heavily modified of course). While OsC is lacking on the user end though with it's long checkout process, etc... the Admin section has been very helpfull with a few startup companies that I've worked for. Believe it or not, if you use STS or BTS you can completly change the look of OSC. If anyone if ever interested in OSC though, they should check out CREloaded. It's OSC with about 50 pre-installed and working contributions.
I really wish Shopify was not hosted through their servers. I would even pay a couple hundo to be able to host all the code on my site. That way I can add some good shipping API's and some other stuff.
There is no explanation of the backend though. Can you run a biz through it? track orders, print reports, etc? - xenlab, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This one just launched too: http://www.rightcart.com/ ... also a RoR cart built on a 1% commission, and they handle the eComm end for you, and just pay you to your paypal acct.
- synthrabbit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1That seems really creepy to me. I'm not going to enter my credit card on a screen that the browser doesn't say is encrypted.
- joshcothran, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0Just built a site in less that 20 hours for my friend, Atlanta artist Elizabeth Talmadge. The power of Shopify isn't that it pushes any envelopes, rather that it does everything simply and well; as my (non-computer-savvy) friend said herself, "it's dummyproof."
Check out the results here: www.talmadgefineart.com
And if you really want to see what the big whoop is about, sign up for a free account and see for yourself how easy it is to use. - deweller, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2RoR = Ruby on Rails
- rgarver, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Are you sure?
http://www.rightcart.com/screencast - DrPlacebo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I actually quite like this system, pay them, pay paypal or your creditcard gateway, sell stuff.
Seems better than rightcart, alot simpler. - ciordia9, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0You're just getting blurry eyed at all the web2.0 similar design works of gradient backdrops and simple clean css. The two sites deal with money but that's it. One allows you to setup a pretty wacky new fangled web shop while the other manages your invoices.
Shopify is pretty swank, and the guys did it in their spare time and have done a pretty good job for a relative first step. I look forward to seeing where it goes. - irubin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0checkout what Varien has done with osCommerce - http://www.varien.com/ecommerce
- smrty, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I'm pretty happy with this solution, gotta hand it to the guys at JadedPixel it's a smooth app.
Business model is sound for encouraging smaller signups, I wonder if it will last... seems like a front end heavy model that will result in hundreds of abandoned pet projects and un promoted stores.
I couldn't get liquid to run, but I love the idea...
Some more work needs to be done on the ordering process, seems a little too lengthy for my taste. instituting a one click option would be a good thing, but overall I had my new sticker shop up in less than 3 hours... ready to sell stickers : http:www.stuckers.com - dizm, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1That templating system is not impressive. I'm not saying it's not useful or a good idea. Just saying it should take maybe two days to make something that simple.
- whalesalad, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Yeah Shopify ripped off Blinksale bigtime... I kinda like Shopify's site more though.
- jfsiii, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0@sbradford: If you're interested in valid (X)HTML, have you used CubeCart (http://www.cubecart.com/site/features/)? I can't say that I have, but my ISP offers it and while I couldn't get the demo (http://www.cubecart.com/site/demo/cc3/) to validate it's still fairly clean and very style-able.
- CaughtThinking, on 10/12/2007, -4/+22 years for an imitative dynamic shopping cart. proof the power in programming is the programmer not the language. I know people that could whip this up in raw C in several days...
- Egoist, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Yes, oscommerce is horrible! So stable and well written that an update wasn't necessary FOR NEARLY 3 YEARS and mainly fixed PHP 5 upgrade issues. And you're so right about compliancy. It's SOOO much more important to know you're compliant than making sure that the site displays correctly IN ALL MODERN BROWSERS with only a *single* stylesheet.
OSC outshines 99% of the open source AND commerical carts out there. Your comments only show that you have no idea what you're talking about. - macmaniacttt, on 10/12/2007, -8/+5was one of the later beta testers - Shopify was great :)
-david - h0zae, on 10/12/2007, -9/+4only commission? Please give us your credit card -- "Shopify's commission structure will be announced later this week during the official launch."
- id34, on 10/12/2007, -10/+1This is the best example of an online store for beginners. The design is all made with CSS! It supports PayPal and they are working on other gateways soon... It really is a quality solution :)
http://www.id34.com - waynesutton, on 10/12/2007, -15/+2Shopify is great! I hope it all people to create great stores! Congrats to the shopify team, my shopify is http://waynesutton.myshopify.com/


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