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- DangerCollie, on 09/09/2008, -6/+59Let's see. Office 2007, $220.00 a seat. OpenOffice, $0.00 a seat. Guess which one our office is using. There isn't enough difference to justify that price tag anymore.
- Levarris, on 09/09/2008, -1/+39I work at a movie theater run by Cinemark. All theaters run by them use Open Office, while working there and playing around with it I got use to it. Like to see what the 3.0 can do.
- asus2000, on 09/09/2008, -2/+40For 90% of what most ordinary people need it for, OpenOffice 2.4 was good enough.
- JohnnyKdiggs, on 09/09/2008, -2/+36Better question: Why doesn't office support .odt?
- cricketsymphony, on 09/09/2008, -2/+343.0 can do everything with file formats that 2.4.1 can, plus read-only support for M$ Office 2007 formats (ie *.docx)
- jakem1, on 09/09/2008, -27/+58It's got a long way to go before it can compare with Office 2007's interface or features.
- bumcheekcity, on 09/09/2008, -1/+25It supports .docx, that's all I care about. I much prefer OO to Microsoft Office, but it not being able to open .docx files means I've had to ust MSO7. Not anymore, bring on OO3!
- captinherb, on 09/09/2008, -1/+20They need to work on Base, it's killing me
- TheUngod, on 09/09/2008, -2/+18Your average user isn't going to use 90%+ of those features. Unless your computer comes with Office for "free," there is just no justification for the cost.
- jeevesatvic, on 09/09/2008, -0/+13"For Microsoft Office files you currently have on hand, OpenOffice.org will import and read them, but it cannot save them back into Microsoft Office format if you make changes."
I'm using 2.4.1 and it saves to MS formats from Office XP backward quite happily. Does this mean they are dropping support for saving to ALL MS formats, or simply not adding the more recent ones? - maceelk, on 09/09/2008, -2/+13Got a new machine 4 weeks ago and this is the first time i haven't installed MSoffice on a machine. Open office has caught up enough to be very viable and on top of that you odn't have to pirate it.
Definitely recommended - nybble41, on 09/09/2008, -2/+13@SSCrow — From a financial point of view, it is always better to keep the money and pay 1/3 of it in taxes (2/3 remaining) than to spend all of it on something that provides no additional benefit. Expenses only count against taxable revenues, not the tax itself.
- azurepalm, on 09/09/2008, -1/+1299% of all statistics are made up
- bootup, on 09/09/2008, -2/+12Importing, but apparently not re-saving in the same format. It makes little difference if you are saving in older formats that are interchangeable between versions of MS Office and other office suites.
- devnullDood, on 09/09/2008, -2/+11Does it support .docx?
- freezerburn666, on 09/09/2008, -3/+11maybe they could show some of the interface / buttons instead of a ***** grid and generic window boxes?
- marshallpeck, on 09/09/2008, -3/+10That is a good damn point! And good for you guys.
- bootup, on 09/09/2008, -5/+12Both the article and comments were all written by either Microsoft fanboys or Microsoft itself. Lets not forget that Microsoft still doesn't support PDF without 3rd party extensions. Nor does it have any kind of export to flash for publishing presentations to the web. Nobody I've talked to likes the MS Office 2007 interface. I sell this stuff every day and constantly ask what people think of MS Vista and MS Office. Then- the article straight out lies about supporting Office file formats. You can re-save data created in MS Office. What you can't do is re-save in the new docx format. FUD. While some of the comments may be true regarding not having an email client-the open source world does offer a number of applications to connect with exchange and so on. One such example is evolution.
- rjpaulisick, on 09/09/2008, -3/+10MS Access, baby! Oh wait...
Definitely love those Northwind Traders sample databases, though. - wigren, on 09/09/2008, -3/+10They will soon, and Sun makes a plug-in.
- EtherGnat, on 09/09/2008, -2/+9Your entitled to your opinion, but I think Office 2007 is the best and most innovative thing Microsoft has done in years. I switched an office with about 50 PCs over six months ago and everybody loves it. Some people had more trouble getting use to the new interface than others, but nobody had any significant issues and I think every last person would agree it's an improvement over previous versions.
I've noticed people attempting more complicated tasks and creating better work, too. The Ribbon seems to encourage people to experiment and help them find new features that were buried in multi-level menus before. I hope the Ribbon becomes the new interface standard. - blackvlad, on 09/09/2008, -2/+9I'm a Windows fan (big time) ... but more importantly I'm a fan of good software. I got tired of the price and bloat of MS Office so one day I put OpenOffice to the acid test...my wife (a Word and Excel master). She had a few complaints, but those have been addressed in bug fixes since. We're fans with no looking back ;) Just my 2 cents.
- Dustin00, on 09/09/2008, -3/+9I wish they wouldn't try so hard to mimic MS Office.
I miss Word Perfect's reveal codes so bad. - BadAsh71, on 09/09/2008, -15/+21I didn't realize people actually liked Office 2007.
Digg me down but the interface sucks! - Cenobite, on 09/09/2008, -0/+6Movie theaters are also businesses. You have offices where people actually sit at computers and do work that doesn't involve changing reels or watering down cola.
Dealing with accounts, salaries, deliveries, etc. - talonstriker, on 09/09/2008, -2/+8If there is that much data, wouldn't you be better of using a database?
- SpeedSteamBoat, on 09/09/2008, -1/+7It isn't that great for $200.
- diggerbez, on 09/09/2008, -6/+11Why does it take so much longer to load?!?!?!
- Jwoey, on 09/09/2008, -3/+8I used to say the same thing as you, but after using 2007 for about 18 months... I could never go back to 2003. I've fallen in love with 2007. It definitely takes getting used to, but it's really a very cool tool.
- mikedoth, on 09/09/2008, -3/+8Finally.
- b0m8ad1l, on 09/09/2008, -1/+5/fact check
Microsoft Office 2007 can export to pdf. You do have to download an add-on, but it is free and from Microsoft. Not a third party extension. - SpeedSteamBoat, on 09/09/2008, -0/+4Uh, it's Open Source so it supports, and tries to promote the use of open standards. That's a big part of the point. How exactly is it the fault of OOo that MS refuses to support ODF? OpenOffice has supported MS formats for a long time now. You're complain to and about the wrong people.
- FutureGuy, on 09/09/2008, -1/+5Really, the average employee who uses office cost around 40$ an hour, 220 (not that much with volume license) < a days pay, even a slight improvement in productivity would pay for it, and there in lies the reason why openoffice hasn't taken off.
- JohnFlux, on 09/09/2008, -3/+7It doesn't seem all that important. When you print it doesn't matter and when you export to pdf it doesn't matter, so in terms of must-have features this is pretty low in priority
- elcow, on 09/09/2008, -0/+4A release candidate is not the same as an alpha or beta release though. A release candidate will be the final release unless bugs are found during final testing. From Wikipedia: "The term release candidate refers to a version with potential to be a final product, ready to release unless fatal bugs emerge. In this stage, the product features all designed functions and no known showstopper-class bugs. At this phase the product is usually code complete." I'm pretty sure the developers haven't just failed to notice the longer load times.
Personally, I haven't tried the RC yet, so I don't know how bad the load times are exactly. - SpeedSteamBoat, on 09/09/2008, -0/+4Java is not a scripting language. It's a programming language. JavaScript has nothing to do with Java beyond namesake. FYI.
- PabloMac, on 09/09/2008, -0/+4You might want to do a punctuation check on all those resume's you're sending out.
- PabloMac, on 09/09/2008, -0/+3Sidenote: MS Office is #1 only because MS force-fed it so many users until their gag reflex stopped. WordPerfect still blows away Word.
- inactive, on 09/09/2008, -2/+5That's the attitude of the developers. But when you show a layperson a drawing from Draw (especially someone from a graphic art/design community), they won't take it seriously. And why should they? Good looks ARE important in software. If I remember correctly...Java 2D introduced antialiasing in 1998! And that was even late for graphics APIs/Applications.
- hamobu, on 09/09/2008, -1/+4No! In fact I import data from database into spreadsheet to do statistical studies.
- Robzzz, on 09/09/2008, -4/+7Yeah you just have to worry about a large corporation, who's track record with privacy is getting worse and worse as time goes by... Ah I miss the "do no evil" google of yesteryear.
- netzdamon, on 09/09/2008, -0/+3abiword and gnumeric is all you really need. :)
- cricketsymphony, on 09/09/2008, -5/+8while i was always very happy with how much competition openoffice gave
m$word, openoffice calc (excel knockoff) and impress
(powerpoint knockoff) have needed a lot of work for a while. looks like
they're doing this. we'll see when it's fully released. - santasing, on 09/09/2008, -1/+4OO does what I need to do all the time. I am not an office secretary or something like that, neither a student. So, I don't need to do fancy Office stuff anyways.
- init100, on 09/09/2008, -0/+3"And as long as companies still expect resume's to be submitted in MSOffice formats i will stick with them."
So they refuse to accept resumes as PDF files? - talonstriker, on 09/09/2008, -0/+3Can they please ditch OOo Math and use the Latex renderer instead? OOo is just brutal when you have multiple levels of fractions inside summations/integrals etc.
- svivian, on 09/09/2008, -0/+3Forfty percent of all people know that.
- JohnFlux, on 09/09/2008, -0/+3For my thesis, I wrote a large amount of it in OOo, then exported to latex. It took about a day to clean up the latex to my liking, but that was about it. Latex export is pretty damn cool :)
- Frostek, on 09/09/2008, -0/+3This isn't directed at you (GruntboyX) specifically, but why do resumes *need* to be sent in a format meant to be edited? My resume / CV has already been created - by me! The copy I'm sending to a prospective employer doesn't need to be changed any further!
Wouldn't PDFs or even a JPG / PNG of the resume be better for this purpose?
It's almost the case that people are saying that you can't get a job, unless you've given Microsoft some money... - asskey, on 09/09/2008, -1/+3Save as .doc?
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