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- electrichead, on 10/12/2007, -8/+179Am I the only one who wouldn't do this out of principle? Pandora is a good model by itself; it introduced me to a lot of music that I would've never found otherwise. I already use adblock; I would feel REALLY guilty about keeping the songs as MP3s. You can find those elsewhere; lets not kick them in the teeth for doing something nice for free...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+46@electrichead
no your not, i actually came here to say the very same and i hope Pandora fixes this soon. I love their service and i don't want it jeopardized like this. - merugo, on 10/12/2007, -4/+27This would be cool if the MP3s weren't so low of a bitrate. Pandora is good for discovering music, but not for downloading it.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+27it isn't costing Pandora anything? wow that's the understatement of the years, its called a jukebox license and there not cheap, especially when you have a huge selection as Pandora does.
- bradz77, on 10/12/2007, -12/+29Seriously, there are finally some good, legal (Pandora, Itunes, etc) options for buying and listening to music online and someone's got to kill them. You'll be sorry when the only music out there is crappy garage bands posing music on myspace.
- vudicarus, on 10/12/2007, -6/+21i'm replying to stand behind electrichead's comment. pandora's an awesome, human labor intensive project. glasgowm: you obviously have no principles and would steal from your own mother before stabbing her in the back just for kicks.
- MrSidnet, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13@glasgowm
I think what he meant was that it doesn't cost Pandora any more if you just listen to the songs, or if you download the songs. Either or, its not using any more bandwidth. And if that's not what he meant, well, Im saying it anyway.
Also, worthy of mentioning, it only works with Flash 8, not Flash 9. Unless there's a new version. - chaosmachine, on 10/12/2007, -5/+16oh great, now you've really opened pandora's box..
- Darth_tater, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11@benknefelkamp
IIRC, they are 128kbps - jer2eydevil88, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9The only problem I have with the current version of Pandora is not being able to hear the song you want when you type it in. Currently they block that because of their license agreement with the industry. If the industry would just be more lenient about this stuff the level of pirated material would drop immensely and people would buy the music when they needed it to go.
- Loki614, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Q: What bitrate is the music you play?
We play 128Kbps streams. Pandora requires a broadband Internet connection.
(http://blog.pandora.com/faq/) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9As soon as anything like this gets a substantial user base... its almost certainly going to be broken within a very short time. Pandora will make changes to their system so this cannot be done. So if your the type to do this... have fun for the rest of the day... but it will be broken before the weeks over.... so why waste your time.
- Phoenixfury, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8These are the exact type of things that make the suits in the RIAA go nuts and ultimately in the end hurts us consumers. I share the sentiment that Pandora is a great service, but as long as you bone heads keep finding a way to leach off their service, your just ultimately going to wind up getting their valuable service killed. This is a classic example of how piracy hurts us legitimate consumers in the end. There's always got to be some bone head or two out there ruining a good thing by making a great service illegitimate. Thanks but no thanks.. I'll pass on this program.
- adolfojp, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8"As soon as anything like this gets a substantial user base... its almost certainly going to be broken within a very short time. Pandora will make changes to their system so this cannot be done."
They break this app every once in a while.
I like this app because I never really know if I like a song until I've heard it a couple of times. Pandora's bitrate is 128k, so the mp3s that you rip are of enough quality to sample but not of enough quality to use as a CD replacement. In the end everybody wins :-) - TomFrost, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9It's 128kbps Stereo... which isn't horrible in the least. Songs with lots of bass or extremely high treble pitches will click and modulate, but that takes extremes. The casual listener will generally never be able to tell a different between 128 and 160/192/320.
- jeriqo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5It is 128kbps, but their encoder gives poor quality. Not as good as say a LAME encoded 128kbps mp3.
Maybe they encore/trancode files live, I don't know why they would do so, though. - deanshultz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Two points. I agree copying defeats the site's intent and leads to RIAA-type-of problems. I am currently enjoying listening as I type this and would not want anything to jeopardize the good work these folks did. My vote is do not mess with it, though some will. However, it is refreshing to see attitudes trending toward doing 'the right thing'. It was not that way in the days of Napster, when many of the current self-admitted thieves were not even on PCs yet. Finally, in the long run, not stealing - just because you can- is how we all benefit in the larger community.
Second point. I, too, did not know of this service and am grateful for the *duplicate* post. Thank you, it is an awesome way to enjoy familiar music and discover new music.
-d - MrSidnet, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4You cant rename the files anymore. Ages ago, you could just rename the Access-1, Access-2 etc files into Name.mp3, and they worked. Then they changed the naming sequence, so something more like KLHlh3, GKLESN32, KLGh8GE, so it was harder to figure out what track should be named what. Now, to the best of my knowledge, there's no way to manually find the tracks in the temp folders, and if you want the songs, you have to use something like Pandoras jar
- jeriqo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+52 pandora clients for Mac OS X :
PandoraMan:
http://www.intrarts.com/software.html
PandoraBoy:
http://www.frozensilicon.net/
PandoraBoy has more features but is buggy on my computer. - greg04, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4can someone mirror the download for the 0.06 version because the tengbob.com links are dead for me...
- raingrove, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3no i am saying that pandora guys will probably fix their stuff now that this hack is on digg.
- greg04, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3unable to rip MP3 unable to find file make sure you have Pandora running in a FIRFOX browser
- capran, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I was just thinking the same thing, if only there was a way to listen to Pandora on my iPod or cell. But knowing cell companies, they'd charge per megabyte, and probably also want a piece of the pie too.
- subscriber, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I listen to Pandora when I'm at my computer, but I still need MP3s when I'm away from it. If Pandora were available via my cell phone, then I -- and presumably many others out there like myself -- would have no need for hacks like this.
I agree with those who say they are concerned that the hack jeopardizes the business model of Pandora, but if they could close that "away-from-computer" gap, then it wouldn't pose a threat. - PhireN, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@luvkit: Itunes sells their songs at 128kbps MP4's which encode better than mp3's,
A 128kbps mp4 is about the same as a 160kbps mp3. - kawa, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Both Pandora and Last.Fm are great and please support them legally!! Some positive highlights for those two music recommenders, IMHO:
1. Pandora- content-based discovery (400+ genome attributes for a single track!)
Highlight: steady server, easy user-interface, AI-enabled (thumbs up/down with instant re-shuffle of play-list), multiple seeds support, quick mix system
2. Last.Fm- tag-based discovery
Highlight: Asian music library, neighborhood system, desktop client available (not steady in recent month), love song system ($3/month to listen to radio with only songs you've rated as "love"), hybrid tags support - greg04, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2is that why i can't seem to download any tracks?
- raingrove, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2oops... digg just killed the hack... i am sure it will be fixed in a few days..
- TimofSuburbia, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Here's a rundown of all the hacks I could find.
http://pandorastations.blogspot.com/2006/10/pandora-round-up.html
Here's a place go share your stations and discover more from Pandora.
http://pandorastations.crispynews.com
Here's another way to find more stations people have created on Pandora.
http://pandoralicious.googlepages.com
Don't steal songs off Pandora !! You will ruin this for all of us. - Phoenixfury, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2If you don't mind listening to music from independent (otherwise mostly unsigned) music artists, you might want to give Goombah a spin. Although it's not exactly the same thing as Pandora, it has some similarities in that it recommends music in other peoples playlists that have similar music tastes as you. However you can also download free mp3's from Goombah like mad that are also tailored to your music taste. Yeah this might not be exactly the same as Pandora, but heck this is still a great way to take music with you that may have not otherwise discovered. I just thought I'd throw that out there for a nice alternative that may appease you. Just a quick edit here.. You need iTunes to make Goombah work.
- condormcs, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5i wish someone would just post about Pandora itself instead of posting on a hack for it.
Pandora is such a great service (and interface) and its a waste to see it go to such losers as this. You want music download it off btmon or mininova. - luvkit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Not good enough to download? Doesn't iTunes sell their music at 128kbps?!
You know what? I agree: not good enough to download, even for free. - leomyhero, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I didn't download the software, but thanks for introducing me to Pandora, so cool!
- monarchista, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Do the same for Last.fm:
http://www.philwilson.org/blog/2006/09/ripping-lastfm-radio-to-separate-mp3.html - markdr123, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2For those of you saying no-one loses, Pandora won't lose any money, don't be so shallow minded. If the RIAA come down on them because lots of people start doing this, they're going to try and fix it. If they feel they can't due to technical reasons or whatever, then Pandora is gone. Pandora has lost their business, and we have lost a great, free source of music.
Have some morals, people. - edein, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Wouldn't it help them more if you stop using adblock and actually click on their ads? I saved some of the song(rarely), but then i'll click on their ads.
- wwwdot1jesdotus, on 10/12/2007, -8/+9@ JenadaeX -
Understatement? You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. - markdr123, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Even if the RIAA found out Pandora's music is easily downloadable for free?
- aguynamedben, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Pandora also stores your login information (email and password) on your hard drive as a Flash Shared Object. Back in the day, they stored your password UNENCRYPTED on your hard drive, but that has been fixed.
- nickstang, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Flash Uninstaller and archived version of of flash. Including Flash 8.
http://qurl.com/sqtb6
For the record, I only got this to work after downgrading from flash 9 and using the pandora jar version in the link. - nickstang, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1
"unable to rip MP3 unable to find file make sure you have Pandora running in a FIRFOX browser"
This error message is displayed if you are using Flash 9 instead of 8.
How do I find out what version of the Flash® Player I am running?http://www.smarthinking.com/systemcheck/startcheck.cfm?type=java
You can download a flash uninstaller and Flash 8 here:
http://qurl.com/sqtb6 - phogasmic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Pandora is an awesome service, lets not give the record companies an excuse to shut them down. Its free, the ads are not intrusive at all, and it has introduced me to so many great artists. I love it. I hope they figure out a way to stop people from using this technique.
- Chesh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Pandora's creator said that everything Pandora does is covered under the DMCA and the RIAA can't shut them down as long as the follow it to the letter.
- dmackey, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I agree with the majority of people here. Pandora is a great service and I have created a wrapper application for it called Pandoras Box to make more a desktop player app for people. I felt guilty first ripping out the ads but Pandora actually praised the community work and said they were proud to see the community building upon the project.
They mentioned if they found it hitting the bottom line though they will start enforcing the EULA. I dont, though, agree with the ripping of the mp3. Although it is not hard to do I would never add it to my wrapper app and I hope people dont ruin Pandora for everyone else by using such rippers. As somebody else pointed out, there are other means of getting the mp3s, both legally and illegally. Anyway, just my 2 Irish cents.
If you want to download Pandoras Box, it can be found here:
http://www.cfdan.com/posts/Wrapper_Application_For_Pandora_Running_In_Task_Tray.cfm - tservold1421, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This is like the 20th hak to do this to Pandora. It will get broken like like the rest and another one will pop up. I agree Pandora does a fantastic job but they should set up a pay pal account for donations cause that would really help.
- nickstang, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'm getting the same message. Anyone else able to get around this message?
Anyone got a link to the latest pandora jar DL? - Swimming_Bird, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Do i HAVE to downgrade to Flash 8 to get this to work?
And if so where can i get the flash 8 installer? - masterkang, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0For those of you that think this is actually sucking money out of Pandora, it's not.
Pandora lives off of the advertisements, it couldn't care less if you downloaded it's songs.
There is no way Pandora's existence could be in danger, record companies can't shut it down on the base that people or hacking it.
What is someone hacked iTunes? Do you think it'd be shut down?
Enjoy this hack while you can, it's soon to be patched. - BrainCoder, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Ok, it's a bit old. But i think it's a bit lame...Services like Pandora and last.fm offer you to listen a lot of good music for free, this is so evil. Hacking is funny, I know. And last.fm on certains tags repeats a lot of times the same songs, having it on your pc is so useless, on your iPod it should be cool but...
- technoboi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I agree with the view that we shouldn't do anything to put Pandora in jeopardy.
Whilst on the subject of Pandora, does anyone know of any software (pref. free) to stream Pandora.
I have a box (netgem iplayer), that can access the net, and display web pages, but it isn't java capable so I can't get Pandora on it. However, it can pick up MP3 streams off the Net or off my computer.
I just need some software to make Pandora stream from my computer so I can pick up Pandora off my LAN.
Any ideas? -
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