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- samgab, on 10/12/2007, -0/+31I like CCleaner too, it's a great program. This should have been pointed to http://www.recuva.com though, NOT this crap blog!
- afx1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+23After clickin all of his AdSense ads and making him 3 cents, I realized here's the real link:
http://www.recuva.com/ - dpcdomino, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13Still Beta but I expect good things. Love CCleaner.
Although anyone else get freaked out when a file that you delete can still be found? - belthesar, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12Not when I've worked in data recovery for quite some time. There's a reason the Department of Defence uses multi-pass deletion on their hard drives.
- Dhalgren, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Especially since the "crap blog" couldn't even support 80 diggs...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8@Scyth3
Nice to know DoD is spending their time on Digg and using Freeware to protect the privacy of our nation . . . - dweeb73, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Holy crap what timing! I was just trying to recover data off of a cf card, this thing works like a charm!
- nick0909, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Yeah, but even the smartest have had that moment where you make a little mistake and a file goes away. I even deleted some stuff that I didn't care enough to back up but I wouldn't have minded being able to undelete it. In the end I just lost the files and I don't even remember (or care) what they were now, but if I had a quick and easy tool to recover them I would have been happier. Its free, so why bust balls?
- nick0909, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8Your exasperated comment about it being windows software is quite unneeded. I don't go and post "open source software, uggg. That means it will look like crap and probably won't support the hardware I have" on everything, even if I do think it.
- sremick, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3And what valid gripe would you have that it being "open source software" would be bad? Unlike the valid gripes about it being close-source, OS-specific software like the person you're replying to didn't like?
A sweeping generalization that all open-source software looks like crap? That's funny... one of the things people comment about my FreeBSD desktop is that things look so much BETTER than on Windows. Here are some screenshots I found from just searching a few moments:
http://art.gnome.org/images/screenshots/gnome216/GNOME2161AndFirefox1507OnSolaris.jpg
http://art.gnome.org/images/screenshots/gnome216/GNOME2161OnSolaris8Or9Or10OrNevada.png
http://art.gnome.org/images/screenshots/gnome216/HueyVanIadore.png
http://art.gnome.org/images/screenshots/gnome216/PrettyDefaultGnome216.png
Won't support the hardware you have? That's funny... I can take my FreeBSD hard drive, move it to an entirely different PC, and have it work with nothing more than changing the Xorg video driver. I don't touch a single other driver. Try doing that with Windows, which will balk on virtually every single driver in Device Manager and requires separate tools like SysPrep in order to first reduce the driver config to the lowest common denominator in hopes that it'll work (and often it still won't).
Or were you just pulling "facts" out of some nether-region for the sake of fueling an unjustifiable hangup of yours? Or maybe you actually know of a specific hardware incompatibility between some hard drive and an open-source OS that those of us who actually USE open-source OSes don't know about? - piesforyou, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I read something once which put it like this. Although the data is stored in a binary system, the universe is not binary - it's analogue. Drives only interpret an analogue signal as either a 1 or a 0. It follows that some 1's can be more, well, One-ish than others. and some 0's can be more 0-ish than others, because no analogue system is perfect.
So, suppose you analyse a 1 and it comes out as being 93% one, and you analyse another 1 and it comes out as being 98% one. You can propose from those results that the first 1 was more likely to have been a 0 before the last time it was overwritten, whereas the second 1 is more likely to have been a 1 before the last time it was overwritten. So we can conclude that before the 11 was overwitten, it may well have been 01. Hence, multiple overwrites do help hide data.
Well, I don't know if that's actually how it works, but that's what the article was trying to say. Sorry I don't have a reference - it was ages ago. - TroubleInMind, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I had to do damage control on a botched personnel action. They dismissed the person with a whole day's unsupervised notice. She "deleted" many critical pieces of evidence that were on her work computer during that day. Imagine how surprised she was to see all that material presented against her in response to her wrongful dismissal suit.
Sometimes, you really REALLY need to delete things. - vuzman, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4This is so retarded! Data cannot be recovered after one(!) complete overwrite. I'll say that again, since this is a common misconception: Data *cannot* be recovered after *one* complete overwrite. Multiple overwrites are a myth!
Data is written to the storage medium as 1s and 0s. How is anyone supposed to know what a single bit was before it became what it is now? You can't! The whole concept of multiple overwrites comes from Peter Gutmann, and is based on a flawed paper by said person where he claims that intelligence agencies might be able to recover data with electron microscopes. This belief is, however, not generally supported by experts, and has never been proved.
Here's a quote from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gutmann_method :
"Companies specializing in recovery from damaged media (for example Ibas) cannot recover completely overwritten files. These companies specialize in the recovery of information from media that has been damaged by fire, water or otherwise. No private data recovery company claims that it can reconstruct completely overwritten data."
Read it again. Please understand: When a bit has been overwritten, there is no way of knowing what it was before. Overwrite a file ONCE and it's gone forever! - polyGone, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2lmao rocket surgeons........
- absorbation, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Yes, the program works only using one executable file :).
- vuzman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Recovering files to the same drive it was deleted from is gambling.
The OS thinks that the space where the deleted file lies is free space. So, if you try to restore the deleted file to the same drive, parts of it might get overwritten before it is fully recovered. The more files you are trying to recover, the bigger the chance of overwriting files before they're recovered. - polyGone, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4I know this may be a dumb question, but I will ask anyway.
Will it help (or will anything at this point) restore a corrupted .max file? There is a technique used to 'merge' parts of the scene to a new one, but a model I've been working has parts I can't recover. I ended up losing 4-5 hours worth of modeling. Just thought I'd ask.... - flessa, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Every time after I scan my drive for deleted files the program experiences a problem and must be closed. I love CCleaner, but Recuva has some work to do.
- piesforyou, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1What's the big deal? There's hundreds of un-delete programs out there.
- PRlME, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1i use Restoration it also fits and runs on a USB drive. I was able to recover a 5GB folder.
[note during use it suggest copying to another drive but you dont have to]
Restoration: File Size 229 kb
http://www.snapfiles.com/get/restoration.html - aliguana, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1afaik Mac drives (well, the OSX system anyway) defrags as it goes along, so you don't actually need to do a big four-hour long defrag like you do with Windows.
- emceepecks, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1CCleaner is some of the best freeware you can get. I make sure I install it on any computer I build.
- dracostimpy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2God DAMMIT I love these guys! CCleaner people, you ROCK!!!
On a side note, can you please make an addon for Recuva to import NTFS encryption keys to a separate windows install so I can restore some encrypted files that are stuck on my non-bootable but readable C: drive? I can't quite figure it out, but you guys are friggin rocket surgeons!
Keep on rockin in the free world! - krinthekuz, on 09/16/2008, -1/+1or wipe/shred and forecast for linux
- Dumbledorito, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0So can files be recovered on Apple machines, too? I only ask because of the line from a most infamous anti-Mac movie:
"YOU IDIOT! YOU OWN A MACINTOSH! THE FILE IS ***** GONE!!!"
And if they CAN be recovered, do Mac drives require defragmentation? - polyGone, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1yeah or just mod me down......................
- Dumbledorito, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0So files are permanently erased, then?
And FYI: Defrags don't take that long anymore, if you have hard drives built within the last 4 years or so. My 200gb RAID array defrags in well under an hour. Yes, a long "pause" in one's use, but much shorter than it used to be. - ideefix, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2it is possible to use this on a usb stick? ty
- nick0909, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0They probably want you to read the information provided on the website and answer your own question for yourself.
- nick0909, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2It is beta yet they give it a 1.01 version number... things are confusing in this land. Will the regular release be 2.0?
- bwesterman, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Cool, but I hardly think I'm going to need it. I never delete anything unless I need room. It's just basic computing. Why go through all the work deleting something unless it gets in the way? I like CrapCleaner though... it's just a quick way to clean your caches.
- Fatalah, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0I once uninstalled Limewire and in doing so, lost the contents of my mp3 download folder. I wish Recuva existed back then because looking for a free recover program was pretty tough. I had to try different trial programs which were limited, such a pain. I hope Recuva is a success.
- Scyth3, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2"Not when I've worked in data recovery for quite some time. There's a reason the Department of Defence uses multi-pass deletion on their hard drives."
I work for the DoD and use CCleaner. In the settings you can set multi-pass deletion. I think I'm using 3 passes, and you can use up to 7. - Risasi, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0When it comes to data recovery I prefer to use GetDataBack from runtime.org. I spent a small fortune several years ago, but it was worth it. Other than one drive with encrypted files I have been able to recover lost data from customer machines. Even one that someone zero filled, overwrote and reformatted.
As for making sure a drive cannot be read ever again; I use bullets. Believe it or not a .357 magnum will only puncture three platters, the fourth one will stop it...9mm just kind of dents it. The .45ACP also just dents it, but bends the crap out of the platters, sometimes shattering them too. A shotgun slug will turn a drive inside out. And just about any rifle round will chop through a drive like a hot knife through butter. - clickwir, on 10/12/2007, -9/+5Being smart enough to keep a backup of a file that you'd need "recovered" if lost > recovery software
- pathy, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1http://www.cylog.org/utils_9.asp - CyberShredder
Allows you to do a multi-pass delete on specific files. - fanboydcs, on 10/12/2007, -9/+3windows software, ugg..
Any Opensource software I can stick on a linux live cd that can get data off of Fat, NTFS, HFS, HFS+, Ext2, Ext3, + any other crazy FS?
If so please let me know! - kickarse, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2 Just don't give your mom access to your computer...
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