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- sneakerelph, on 10/12/2007, -11/+30"you idiot! you own a mactintosh! THE FILE IS ***** GONE!"
/hunter cressel
watch as i get dugg down because nobody knows where thats from. - JakeMcMahon, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17Hard Drive Capacity != penis size
- RomieZ, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17Good job spamming your article..
- nTensify, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13Good luck, most of the tools for Mac file undeletion cost a hefty chunk of change, and because of the way the disk daemons try to take care of the data on the volumes, it's highly likely your data will end up unrecoverable.. however..
If you REALLY, REALLY need to recover something, first things first, shut down your system IMMEDIATELY (hold the power button and kill it if you have to, any excess writes have the possibility of damaging the data), and don't even think about turning it back on unless from a seperate disk (such as an Ubuntu CD, DiskWarrior Boot Disk, or another Mac OS X volume). If you need to continue to use the machine, DD a backup image of the hard disk onto another volume for storage until you can get around to recovering the file.
Next, get DiskWarrior. Limitations: It's not Universal yet, it's $100 and available from the Apple Store. You may not like the price tag, but it's just about the only application for the job (there are a few others out there, if you're desperate), and it works excellently. It comes with a boot disk for your machine, and will allow you to restore the file in place.
Otherwise, just maintain good backups and hopefully it won't happen to you. - DougieD, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14Why someone would digg down comments offering helpful advice and links to alternative programs is far beyond me.
- Wilson, on 10/12/2007, -5/+16Except that's Trialware. I prefer the free PC Inspector File Recovery (more robust than Restoration): http://www.pcinspector.de/file_recovery/uk/welcome.htm
- Racoon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11Next on digg, how not to be hungry.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -9/+18Nobody likes a bragger.
Automatic down digg for anybody trying to impress me with their HD capacity. - jaguar, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11From the article: "Emptying the recycle bin before checking its contents, performing a Shift+Delete on a file or folder, or deleting a file from the command line can all render your data invisible to XP, and seemingly lost forever ..." This is for when you've already cleared the recycle bin or bypassed it.
- nTensify, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12And for those of you who actually NEED to be sure something's deleted on Windows XP...
http://sourceforge.net/projects/eraser/ - punkrockxtian, on 10/12/2007, -15/+22Not everybody on digg uses a Mac you self-centered fanboy.
- Chipsandsnacks, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10or their porn collection for that matter
- lupinglade, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11Good luck recovering after Windows deletes itself.
- striker1211, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Ok... let's go with a metaphore or analogy or... whatever:
Let's say you have a friend named bill (your file). Bill has an address of 123 fake st. Bill dies (he gets deleted). Bill's ghost haunts this house. Lying dormant. Nobody can see him, but he is there. Anyone is free to move in, and once they move in, bill's ghost (your data) will be gone forever. What this program does, is go:
"hey, i know bill was at 123 fake st before he died, because i have this old phone book (the file allocation table with the address set to "empty"). Let's check there."
If nobody has moved in or squatted in his house (bits of other data) then the program will bring "Bill" (your file) back to life...
PS: Don't flame, this is the best description i could come up with at 1am.
[edit] lol either i didnt read the last sentence of your post or u edited it... but now i look like an ass [/edit] - MrViklund, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Just use a recoveryprogram... Getting tired of spam.
- antdude, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6SpinRite isn't free though (legally).
- Magadass, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6This is the god of all duplicates!
- Yarnage, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Uh, no. You need to brush up on how Filesystems work. When you delete a file, unless you securely delete it, the space the file once occupied is now set as free space for the Filesystem. It can be recovered with specialized software.
Windows, Linux, OS X, etc... they all do this. If it would actually erase your data, it would take forever to delete stuff (especially a lot of files). You can always securely delete though. - steger, on 10/12/2007, -9/+13http://www.undelete.com works wonders.
- StephnDolenc, on 10/12/2007, -7/+11http://www.grc.com/spinrite.htm spinrite works well.
- JakeMcMahon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3You should be more careful. When I'm cleaning the house I don't throw my dvds in the rubbish.
- ohcoaster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3pssh, i have 0.000114440918 PETABYTES
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@se1zure
When you delete data from a filesystem, it is unlinked from the file system, but the data itself still remains there. Since the data is "unlinked", the filesystem knows that it can treat that as empty space and write over it with new data. Until that data is overwritten, it can still be recovered (because it physically exists, though virtually it is unlinked).
Magnetic data storage leaves risidual data so some techniques (sometimes very involved and expensive and time consuming) can recover data that has been written over several times, which is why government security reccomendations (internally) are to write over data (with utilities) 7+ times with random bits. Of course, the only way to absolutely gaurantee that the data can't ever be recovered is to completely obliterate the physical platters (acid, liquid nitrogen, etc).
But for the purposes here, we're just talking about filesystem's unlinking the data nodes. - Primedeath, on 10/12/2007, -8/+10Haha, digg for ya, I know where that is from.. :)... "Mac killed my inner child".
- gh02t, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3That exact thing happened to me once. You could hear the swearing for miles.
- saudama, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This is a very useful tool. I was looking for such a thing for a long time.
- sneakerelph, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3what it does is this:
on a hard drive, there is a section of the filesystem called a "File allocation table" (or something like that) this table is like a table of contents. it tells the OS where each file is physically on the hard drive. when you delete a file, only the table gets erased, not the actual data. then the OS is free to overwrite this area of the hard drive.
if you're lucky, after you delete a file, maybe windows hasn't overwritten it yet. these recovery programs will search the hard drive physically, and write the location of the file back to the FAT, so you can find the file again.
please, someone correct me if i'm wrong, i'm just trying to explain this.
EDIT: damn! yarnage beat me to it! - RomieZ, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2btw, this program doesnt seem to be working for me...Just deleted a bunch of desktop clutter and it didnt show up in the Recovery program.
- MrSunshine, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Both the 200GB and 160GB harddrives that I bought got a physical crash after a few weeks just by copying a few files to them. I want the manufacturers to be shot.
Other programs:
http://www.officerecovery.com/freeundelete/
http://www.handyrecovery.com/ - K4P741NxKRUNCH, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Just saved this onto my iPod so I can use this app everywhere!
You can do this in the command line, but this makes things MUCH easier, and it allows you to look through an index if you don't already know the filename.
I work for tech support and I occasionally have to go to peoples houses, this could come in handy.
Although they might question me plugging my iPod into their computer in an attempt to restore data. - se1zure, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2but does it not, somewhere on the drive, need to store that data. If I throw away a 4 gb movie, where is it going to pull it out of? Is that space just mysteriously added. I don't quite understand what your telling me I guess.
oh, so it will eventually get overwritten. nvmd then. - K4P741NxKRUNCH, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Well, in that case I would download this utility again and use it on my ipod to restore ....itself?
- AshyRaccoon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The solution is, clearly, to employ all available raccoons to steal vans and steal food from Wendy's.
- saudama, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Sorry about the double post, but the final file lacks audio.
- fistandoodle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Free file recovery programs:
TestDisk:
http://www.cgsecurity.org/index.html?testdisk.html
FreeUndelete:
http://www.officerecovery.com/freeundelete/
Disk Investigator:
http://www.theabsolute.net/sware/dskinv.html
PC Inspector File Recovery:
http://www.pcinspector.de/file_recovery/UK/welcome.htm
Handy Recovery:
http://www.handyrecovery.com/
(Go to download, at the bottom is the freeware version 1.0, but they are up to 2.0)
SectorSpyXP (Top link on this page, their homepage is down and/or doesn't contain this software)
http://www.freeware.org.uk/disk.htm
Restoration:
http://www.geocities.jp/br_kato/
Roadkil's Undelete:
http://www.roadkil.net/undelete.html
Data Recovery:
http://tokiwa.qee.jp/EN/dr.html
All the hard drive recovery freeware needs I've found. - phi0x, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1WOW i had just looked into this 2 days ago, exact same program, i should have blogged/digged it damn -_-
its a great program though, i tried it. works very well. - mcottier, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3I hate people who say this is SPAM. Who cares if he makes money from the article. Are you jealous?
- TS11, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Does it work with Ubuntu lol?
- Securityguru, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Undelete is trialware. The best thing about this restoration program is that it does a great job even though you don't have to pay a thing! It is solely freeware!
- jeaton, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Don't even think of pirating software from Steve Gibson.
- tahim, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2http://digg.com/apple/Hilarious_Mac_Switch_Ad_
- FunkyGuy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3Thank. You. Wilson.
- se1zure, on 10/12/2007, -5/+5Oh, and vista users wont need this, seeing as it takes 7 steps to delete one icon, I think you figure out somwhere along the long road that **Oh *****! I need This, 5 more clicks it it could have gone for good!!!**
- Sasabune, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1yay dugg to 666th :P
- Urusai, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3But what if you accidentally delete the utility off of your iPod, what then, Mr. Smarty Pants??
- viperX, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0been using this program for about a year and its great for when i accidently delete fileswhile cleaning
- punkrockxtian, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0@ sneakerelph I presume you're talking about that mac ad commercial spoof. Pretty ironic that you quote it since its one of my uploaded videos on youtube. Everybody should watch it its hilarious
oops! i see someone already linked to it! - JakeMcMahon, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Racoon:
Can you dress yourself? - nTensify, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2"how not to be hungry."
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