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Protect Your Privacy While Downloading

lifehacker.com — Earlier this week, a Lifehacker reader caught downloading copyrighted material using BitTorrent told us about the scary warning letter she received from her ISP about a big media company who filed a complaint.

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  • LongShlong, on 03/27/2008, -4/+30A great bit of advice to avoid the man coming down on you... And your right hand man selling out on you.
    • fkr3, on 03/27/2008, -31/+7There's an even easier way..... it's called iTunes / Amazon and Netflix.
      • nmnnotmyname, on 03/27/2008, -3/+14How often people miss the point, is really absurd.
      • djbon2112, on 03/27/2008, -4/+19Will you get it through your thick head that BitTorrent != piracy automatically?
        • griz, on 03/27/2008, -0/+9Yes but she would not have received the letter if she were downloading legal content. Which part of "a Lifehacker reader caught downloading copyrighted material using Bit Torrent" wasn't clear.
        • fkr3, on 03/28/2008, -7/+5This article is a follow up on a previous article where she admits to pirating about 30 movies and songs before she was caught.
          • nmnnotmyname, on 03/28/2008, -3/+1Which, of course, means that iTunes / Amazon and Netflix an alternative to a download network. No, it does not. It may be a legal alternative for MP3s and movies, but Bittorrent is very useful for some things - OcRemix uses it for serving legal remix MP3s, OpenSuSE uses it for pre-release DVDs......
          • griz, on 03/28/2008, -0/+2That is all true but that is not what this argument is based on. It stems from a user who was caught downloading copywritten material. If ISPs can identify copyright holders material, they should keep their grubby hands off anything else they can identify as copywritten.
    • ktetch, on 03/27/2008, -7/+5Avoid how? there's no evidence that it stops anyone. Roughly 1/3 of the internet is on the lists, including opentracker (who make the tracker the piratebay uses) and utorrent. Other thigns blocked include relakks and tor (both annonimising services) - makes you wonder who is running bluetack. No-one knows you see. Not even the coders of peerguardian know who bluetack's admins actually are, and thus who they work for.

      Lets not forget that there's no evidence that these lists have ever worked, or Slyck's study at the end of last year, that even a month after the mediadefender leak, only 2% of their IPs were blocked.

      Anyone with a basic understanding of how the net works, can see why this program doesn't do as claimed, and how easy it is to corcumvent. Of course, common sense is often a hard thing to find in this topic.
      • nmnnotmyname, on 03/28/2008, -0/+3Proxies and encryption just about does it. I have a perfect understanding of the net. PG2 is still useful for when proxies are not wanted.
    • sporg, on 03/27/2008, -0/+16Dont believe the media industries hype its all scare tactics. You have a better chance of winning the lottery than actually getting sued by one of these companies. If you get one of these letters they are just trying to scare you into submission. My advice is stop using torrent for a month or so and remove any material they claim is infringing. Then once things have settled down go right back to what you were doing but avoid the media listed in the letter.
      From what I have seen it is television shows which seem to attract the most attention from these anti piracy outfits. Whatever you do don't contact the entity threatening you since they dont even know who you are unless you foolishly phone or write to them. Notice the text like this that appears in these letters:
      "NOTE TO ISP: PLEASE FORWARD THIS ENTIRE MESSAGE TO THE SUBSCRIBER OR
      ACCOUNT HOLDER. THIS MAY ENABLE US TO RESOLVE THE ISSUE AND ARRANGE FOR
      RESTITUTION WITHOUT FILING SUIT OR ISSUING A SUBPOENA TO YOU"

      Those "pre settlement" letters especially are a trick to make you incriminate yourself by calling them and giving your name. Remove the offending material and do whatever it takes to appease your isp but don't reveal your identity to these people. Make them go through the lengthy and expensive process of determining your name through court filings if they think they really have a case. Then if they do file a lawsuit (like I said you've more chance of winning the lottery) then "misplace" your hard drive somewhere it will never be found (like on the bottom of the ocean smashed into tiny bits for instance) and hire a lawyer.
      • nmnnotmyname, on 03/28/2008, -0/+1Now THAT is useful information. I will have to remember that.
    • Genma, on 03/28/2008, -0/+8Piracy Shmiracy. I do what I wants, when I wants.
  • 3leggedHorse, on 03/27/2008, -20/+8 Rapidshare or megaupload blog posts are a good way of gettingz your stuffz.
  • IDoNotExist, on 03/27/2008, -8/+95Pretty basic stuff for the seasoned pirate. But still useful for those out there that are still n00bz to the bittorrent scene.


    Three cheers for lifehacker!
    • dpollitt, on 03/27/2008, -21/+5Seasoned pirates useNET
      • algo, on 03/27/2008, -3/+15shh!
      • Rioracer916, on 03/27/2008, -1/+4Damn, secrets out. Now there will be a flood of 14 year olds asking people on Digg and other forums how to find all the headers to Britney Spear's new album.

        As Carl from the Simpsons, Stone Cutter episode said: "Shut uuu~p"
        • Silentnite85, on 03/28/2008, -0/+1And later, when Lenny did it for the 15th time. Homer says "Shut Uuu~p".

          Who control's the British crown, who keeps the metric system down...Stupid catchy song.
        • GawtMilk, on 03/28/2008, -0/+1Those Egg Council creeps got to you too, huh?
          No, no Homer...it's not like that!
          *Squeak Squeak*!

          YOU BETTER RUN EGG!

          That's it, I'm going to go watch the [kl0wnz]-ripped episode. 40GB for 18 Seasons? YES!
    • NinjaJoey, on 03/27/2008, -3/+13lol at anyone who thinks PeerGuardian will protect you from anything. Also, some private trackers don't allow SSH or proxies.
    • saphyrre, on 03/28/2008, -2/+5There is no "torrent scene":))..more like a "community".. There is only one Scene, which has nothing to do with p2p; that's where the big guys are. Let the kidz worry about peerguardian and such:)
  • ssstonebraker, on 03/27/2008, -2/+56I'm surprised the article didn't mention I2P (Invisible Internet Project). It creates a network layer that applications can use. Your IP address will show up as 127.0.0.1 - entirely benign. And because you’re already anonymous on I2P, everything else running through it (or ‘over‘ it) will be equally concealed.
    • SuperWinner, on 03/27/2008, -1/+23http://www.i2p2.de/
    • TH3W1R3D, on 03/27/2008, -0/+15How well does it work for torrents?
    • digitallysick, on 03/27/2008, -0/+13This is new for me, so i will have to research
    • sancho, on 03/27/2008, -1/+9Sounds just like Tor, with all of the disadvantages thereof (mostly that people exiting from your node and doing illegal things will get YOU in trouble for it, and that bandwidth will be highly degraded.)
      • amoeba, on 03/27/2008, -0/+8Tor exit node server admins have 'plausible deniability' as they have no direct control over the traffic there but simply provide a service
    • stoanhart, on 03/28/2008, -0/+3From WIkipedia:

      "I2P is currently in the pre-alpha development stage and not yet ready for general anonymity use. Therefore the developers have asked the user community not to mention the software in high publicity websites like Slashdot."

      Way to go, ssstonebraker! :)
  • debuffplx, on 03/27/2008, -53/+3Usenet. BitTorrent is for idiots who don't know what the internet is.
    • borkus69, on 03/27/2008, -3/+4You were one of those people that believed you'd never fill your 10 megabyte hard drive.
    • skyshock1, on 03/27/2008, -14/+6First rule of Usenet... you don't talk about usenet.
      • xsquirrel378x, on 03/27/2008, -10/+7STFU who doesnt know about usenet faggot
    • umbriago, on 03/27/2008, -3/+5dugg down for....sssssh
  • Jareth86, on 03/27/2008, -2/+62peerguardian doesn't work for vista.
    • FiP0, on 03/27/2008, -10/+53what does ?
      • renegadeafk, on 03/27/2008, -6/+21Well written programs?
        • Tyr7BE, on 03/27/2008, -1/+23No, even those tend to crash.
          • GawtMilk, on 03/28/2008, -0/+3Photoshop has never for crashed for me.
            FireFox has, only when browsing more than one digg comment section at once though.
      • kylere, on 03/27/2008, -1/+13According to Microsoft executives, email does!

        http://www.smh.com.au/news/technology/microsoft-to ...

        "One executive, Mike Nash, complained he was "burned" so badly by compatibility issues he was left with "a $2100 email machine".
      • unknowned, on 03/27/2008, -0/+3i lol'd
      • Tenoq, on 03/28/2008, -2/+3Firefox doesn't. I had a reproducible crash on a fresh install of Vista yesterday - only app installed was FF. Just had to visit a particular Digg page and.... WHAM - hard-locked PC. Didn't even safely quit FF, it just hard-locked. Vista + Firefox fail @ Digg scripts. :p
        For reference, it worked fine in XP with the same version of FF. :p
        • GawtMilk, on 03/28/2008, -0/+2FireFox + Digg has never worked for me, even when I was running on a Hackintosh. The old version of Digg was flawless. This one's so slow that if I'm writing emails, I *NEVER* use Digg because I don't want to lose anything.
    • Mehster, on 03/27/2008, -0/+6If you go to the Phoenix Labs forums there is a beta version floating around that works on Vista supposedly.
    • Cronus6, on 03/27/2008, -4/+24Since I got caught while running PeerGuardian I'd say it doesn't work.... period.
      • haker0, on 03/27/2008, -2/+14no one claims that blocking IPs is a full proof method, if that is what you want then avoid copyright infringement . PG2 does lower the risk but even this is dependent on the user using it correctly. Your argument is like saying i got hurt in a car accident wearing a seat belt so they obviously don't provide any protection.
        • thesonofdarwin, on 03/27/2008, -3/+3Or saying condoms don't work because you got someone preggers while using them. Not 100% and dependent on user competence.
        • Mike89, on 03/28/2008, -0/+1thesonofdarwin: not at all the same.

          PeerGuardian is a complete false sense of security. A waste of time. and HEAPS of people around here seem to thing it's the be all end all of not getting sued.
      • takeo1775, on 03/28/2008, -0/+3Since we're here to help each other could you shed some light on what happens if we get caught?
    • LemonHerb, on 03/27/2008, -1/+3it does work, you just have to play around with it a bit. Check their forums, it's good for problems like this.
    • Saltor, on 03/27/2008, -9/+22Vista doesnt work for Vista....
    • bluesatin, on 03/27/2008, -4/+7Peergaurdian doesn't work full stop.
    • ChristaMaria, on 03/27/2008, -0/+8I run Vista and pg2. Works fine for me. I did have some trouble dowloading it straight from the phoenixlabs website though. Had to get it from a mirror and it installed np. Here's the link... http://www.softpedia.com/progDownload/Peer-Guardia ...
    • echotech, on 03/27/2008, -7/+4Rollback to XP, I did.
    • shadcrkd, on 03/28/2008, -3/+2Use Windows Firewall, that'll keep everyone out!
    • ninja0, on 03/28/2008, -2/+1Get a real OS?
  • nico623, on 03/27/2008, -3/+20Very good info...admittedly for a n00b such as myself, I am now more informed :).
    • scottja35, on 03/28/2008, -5/+2Don't be fooled, PeerGuardian is as good at protecting you at home as a democrat in the White House! Vote McCain.

      (Please note that heavy doses of sarcasm were used in the making of this post. But seriously, PG2 didn't stop me from getting "the letter." You should really vote Obama.)
      • withincontext, on 03/28/2008, -1/+1Why not just have your torrent app encrypt the traffic? Isn't that sufficient? It is supposed to prohibit throttling, as well.

        Also, I suggest browsing torrent sites with a Web proxy.
        • brucemanly, on 03/28/2008, -1/+2whats the point in that? when the people who are looking for leechers, encrypting the traffic doesn't mean your IP isn't given out. But yes if the packets are encrypted there's a good chance your ISP can't sniff them
    • thatashguy, on 03/28/2008, -0/+0BTGuard? Before you subscribe and use it, please, for the love of someones god read their TOS (http://btguard.com/tos.php) they let you download torrents anonymously almost as merely as...well just read their TOS.

      Points to note:

      # You will not conduct illegal activites.
      # You understand and agree that you are soley responsible for all your activities using our service.
      # You understand and agree that you are soley responsible for special, consequential, or exemplary damages, including but not limited to damages for loss of profits, goodwill, use, data or other intangible losses.

      Bleh... I know it's just to cover their arse's, but come on, there's many better ways to download anonymously.

      Not that I download anything illegally. Duh.

      Etc.
  • temporaryescape, on 03/27/2008, -2/+82thank you for keeping the giant ***** known as the MPAA out of all our asses
  • Wiini, on 03/27/2008, -6/+44A blogger now has at least 100 diggs because of PeerGuardian and elite advice such as "or use a proxy"?

    I need to get into the blog business.
    • QuickFix, on 03/27/2008, -3/+11Everyone is a noob once...

      Articles like this are good even if they don't apply to you.
    • mrm3x1can, on 03/28/2008, -0/+6lifehacker is actually a very well known blog that is constantly on diggs Popular list
    • SquigglyP, on 03/28/2008, -0/+18oh my god, 100 whole diggs!? holy *****, I should just quit my job now cause this guy is obviously making a fortune in blogging.
  • overtoke, on 03/27/2008, -8/+2i haven't checked an email address attached to an isp since 1997 or so. SAFE =D
    • AngeloM3, on 03/27/2008, -0/+2Oh that makes me feel A LOT better hearing this from some random internet person!
  • Equinox1, on 03/27/2008, -6/+3This should at least help out the kids new to the BT scene, F the MP/RI-AA.
  • MiDri, on 03/27/2008, -5/+24Is it not bad practice to use Tor for BT? Your kinda ***** all those people that need it for what it was meant for, to get around organization/institutions that do not allow free speach (china, cough cough)
    • scottnash, on 03/27/2008, -1/+23Yes, which is why it says "using Tor to download via BitTorrent is considered poor form" in the article.
    • P4NNY, on 03/27/2008, -0/+2Exactly, and the article mentions something about this. Before using Tor for P2P traffic, try running a relay.
    • mookieXL, on 03/27/2008, -0/+6It's not very useful for BT anyway (unless you like 5-10kB/s downloads)
      • Tenoq, on 03/28/2008, -0/+3So about the same speed as your average Australian broadband connection to international links. :p
  • RioMo, on 03/27/2008, -7/+1There are waaaaaay too many acronyms being throw around in this thread.

    / runs for his internet acronyms for dummies book
  • solarwind24, on 03/27/2008, -2/+1http://moblock.berlios.de/ - Just what I needed.
  • iticu, on 03/27/2008, -3/+6One proxy?

    No man, 7 proxys! What do you think we are?
  • whyufail, on 03/27/2008, -4/+44Oh boy! Either use peer guardian, a feel good method that really doesn't protect you for *****, or pay for a proxy service. If I wanted to do that, I'd subscribe to a usenet server. Seriously.
    • Ovalteen, on 03/28/2008, -1/+5Or you could, I don't know, pay for movies and other copyrighted content. Just thought I'd throw it out there as a possibility.
      • thirty6chambers, on 03/28/2008, -4/+1shut up MPAA! i do's whats i wants when i wants!!
      • lotsa1s, on 03/28/2008, -2/+1I will when the content is worth paying for.
        • zongamin, on 03/28/2008, -1/+2Shut up - If you don't like don't steal it you ***** wanker.
          • lotsa1s, on 03/28/2008, -1/+0Explain how it's stealing if I did not take a physical object? I'm honestly intrigued.
    • BirdCatcher, on 03/28/2008, -0/+1BOO
  • HoratioHellpop, on 03/27/2008, -23/+7Can't this be avoided by simply not downloading copyrighted content?
    • orangetiki, on 03/27/2008, -1/+15actually there are a lot of legal things to be had from bit torrent like podcasts and such , but if the ISP's just block anything that says bit torrent then where does that leave you?
      • griz, on 03/27/2008, -0/+1That argument makes sense, but I find it interesting that this article stems from another article that was about downloading material that holds a copyright and not about ISP blocking. That argument might have a place here if the rest of the comments weren't all about how to cover your ass from the copyright police.
        Perhaps if they started out by saying that their download of NeoOffice over Bit torrent was blocked or their download of the SXSW music collection was hampered in some way by their ISP. But it wasn't.
    • ChristaMaria, on 03/27/2008, -4/+3Yeah! ***** you HoratioHellPop!
    • CaLeDee, on 03/27/2008, -5/+3Get off the internet. Now.
    • Tenoq, on 03/28/2008, -0/+1If you look at who the RIAA is suing - then no, even if you don't own a computer you're still likely to be fined. :p
    • djepik, on 03/28/2008, -1/+3http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=suc ...
  • oscotto, on 03/27/2008, -3/+14What about protection for the Macintosh?
    • 2shae, on 03/27/2008, -1/+5a new Peerguardian 2 OS X is in beta in the forums (latest version is March 9, 2008)
    • xsquirrel378x, on 03/27/2008, -18/+3get a PC, no one cares about mac
      • Tenoq, on 03/28/2008, -4/+4Get off Digg, no one cares about your opinion. :p
        Yeah, it's inane too, isn't it? Numbnuts.
      • R031E5, on 03/28/2008, -2/+2If the comment structure meets this criteria: [Obama, Steve Jobs, Ubuntu, Mac, iPhone, XKCD] + sucks, your comment will unconditionally be buried.
    • Tenoq, on 03/28/2008, -0/+13Man, I haven't heard it called a 'Macintosh' in a long time. Like since I had that LC630.
    • lotsa1s, on 03/28/2008, -1/+0A box of condoms, because according to those new Mac commercials, you people are so much more hip and cool then us boring old PC users. You obviously get far more sex based on your OS choice, right?
      • 2shae, on 03/28/2008, -0/+2Yeah we do! :P
        We're not boring, which makes us interresting, which gets us layed.
        Now you know...Get a Mac!
  • SomeImagination, on 03/27/2008, -11/+5/Sees PeerGuardian2 is mentioned *closes page*
    Next time write an article about something you understand
    • LemonHerb, on 03/27/2008, -1/+11So are you pro peerguardian, or aganist? Do you have any information or do you just like to make random statements and run off?
      • DeckleEdge, on 03/27/2008, -3/+1LOL :)
      • franl, on 03/27/2008, -0/+9Peerguardian prevents your machine from connecting to blacklisted IP addresses, but your Bittorrent client has already given your IP address to the tracker, and that tracker gives it to every other Bittorrent client in the swarm, including the bad guys who are capturing IP addresses with hacked clients. If you are in a torrent's swarm, your IP address is visible to the entire swarm.
      • SomeImagination, on 03/27/2008, -11/+1I think it's pretty obvious whether im pro or against PG. Maybe you shouldn't write replys to people on subjects you know dick about
        • ChristaMaria, on 03/27/2008, -1/+6Angry much?
        • HoratioHellpop, on 03/27/2008, -5/+3I can tell you know a lot about dick, from what you've recently downloaded. Forwarding to the FBI.
        • LemonHerb, on 03/28/2008, -0/+1Maybe we could just add you to the PG black list and see how well it works.
    • sancho, on 03/27/2008, -1/+2You got dugg down--that really sucks. The folks logging onto the trackers to get IP information don't bother connecting to your IP address--they just get the list from the tracker and send out the DMCA notices.
  • charman2k6, on 03/27/2008, -0/+10Good old Canadian privacy laws. What are we hiding? You will never know.
  • everfresh59, on 03/27/2008, -7/+1I use PeerGuardian and run Netduster once a week. It wipes out any traces on my machine..... Great apps hand in hand
    • KDAY12, on 03/27/2008, -0/+4Are you serious dude? Why did you buy Netduster? Why do you need software to clean your history, cookies, temp files, etc?
    • JusticeFriend, on 03/28/2008, -0/+1What a n00b...
  • senixon, on 03/27/2008, -2/+15Another insurance is to have or use Wi-Fi with out a password... there has already been several cases dismissed because the courts could not prove that it was in fact you who downloaded the file in question and some passer by or neighbor connecting to your wi-fi.
  • bincoder, on 03/27/2008, -10/+5Download == legal Upload == illegal.
    BT is one of those that force you to share and upload whatever you are downloading.
  • beauTL, on 03/27/2008, -4/+2Can anyone recommend a program like the ones listed in the blog that are Mac-compatible?
  • 1view, on 03/27/2008, -2/+3btguard works great for me, the article fails to mention they offer the option of encrypted tunnels also
  • twodayslate, on 03/27/2008, -1/+2If you are using linux here is the guide on how to download moblock with the GUI mobloquer. There is also the option of iplist but I like moblock better.
    http://twodayslate.wordpress.com/2008/01/30/peergu ...
    Enjoy your downloads!
  • CaLeDee, on 03/27/2008, -7/+2***** tha' po-lice. ***** tha' law-suits. I don't give a sheeeiit.
  • unknowned, on 03/27/2008, -1/+6my dad got one of those letters, saying that MGM didnt want him to dl either mcguyver or stargate sg1
  • 120photo, on 03/28/2008, -1/+0And security for all.
  • m4csrgh3yk3v, on 03/28/2008, -1/+2It's time the hypocracy ends. If we think piracy is moral (and it seems to be from the number of diggs), then we should put more pressure on the commmunity to end the legal concept of ownership of content.
  • leetdood, on 03/28/2008, -1/+6PG2 doesn't do much, it only blacklists a small number of known IPs associated with the **AAs. It's already been mentioned that the tracker gives the **AAs your IP anyway, and they won't bother actually getting packets from you... They don't need to, at the rate they've been getting settlements from college students without any hard evidence.
  • dasbacon, on 03/28/2008, -6/+3usenet and ssh is all i need
    • lastholdout, on 03/28/2008, -1/+3The first rule was not created just for ***** and giggles.
  • Christia, on 03/28/2008, -1/+5Title should read: Protect Your Piracy While Downloading
  • sheldonnbbaker, on 03/28/2008, -6/+2Peer Guardian is freaking annoying. Targets everything - Apple's website, Google. Also near impossible to uninstall.
    • Zedoriah, on 03/28/2008, -1/+1Yeah, I'm sure that anti-piracy companies run all their detection software from their web server. That makes sense.
    • ThreeDee912, on 03/28/2008, -0/+1If you really hate that, just turn off HTTP filtering. Or only enable the "P2P" blacklist.
  • Zedoriah, on 03/28/2008, -0/+7BT Guard or other proxies are the only fool proof way to stay safe. Any of the "blocking lists" will be woefully incomplete. The people who are paid to monitor this traffic are away of these lists. They rent DSL lines all over the place and have software that makes them look just like anyone else while getting your information. Or just roll the dice and do it anyway. Odds are you'll be fine.
    • mCanada, on 03/28/2008, -0/+3I think there is sound logic to that argument and it's been made a lot. However, a counter argument is this: Companies like media sentry are going to do some sniffing on their central leased lines and at some point they are going to simply buy new blocks of ip's hoping to not be detected for some period of time (all you need is one hit for a lawsuit). So I think an upgraded peergaurdian list iplist.dat (whatever) is better than nothing at all. It's not %100 , no one is claiming that, but just to have it sitting resident in your 4GB Core2Duo system isn't going to hurt. Why the hell not.
  • AvangionQ, on 03/28/2008, -0/+4"When you're downloading copyrighted material, sometimes disingenuous organizations will join in the download and log your information, like your home IP address. Once they have your address, they can find out who your ISP is and contact them to complain about copyright-infringing activity." ... these lawsuits are annoyances that the MPAA and RIAA should discontinue immediately -- several statistical studies have shown that file sharing has no demonstrable effects on overall sales profit, and works quite well as a source of free advertising and word of mouth -- these corporations should discard their antiquated business plans, embrace the P2P technologies, and figure out a way to increase their profits from the effort, while doing so publicly will simultaneously gain a large degree of support from most of their client base ...
  • Sep11insidejob, on 03/28/2008, -0/+5Just move to Canada and BAAM!
  • Dustinbones, on 03/28/2008, -0/+3I lost all respect for lifehacker when i saw peerguardian mentioned.
  • JusticeFriend, on 03/28/2008, -0/+1***** RIAA and MPAA!
  • Sawta, on 03/28/2008, -0/+1If I remember correctly, the problem with programs like Napster and Kazaa was that their servers had evidence of what you have been uploading/downloading while using their programs. Bittorent was then brought to the for front because those who supply you with a link to a file that individuals have uploaded have no idea of who you are and don't have a detailed record of what you have been doing, so you are now much harder to track.

    When you then turn around and pay for a service like a proxy for activities like these, aren't you kind of back to square one, as far as leaving a "bread crumb trail" is concerned?

    You'll have to excuse me, if my analogies are slightly out of wack.. or just plain wrong, as I'm more of just a supporter/sympathizer to the scene, rather than actively taking part in /possible/ questionable activities. ;D
  • jetsetter883, on 03/28/2008, -1/+1im willing to bet anyone who gets a letter for downloading was probably grabbing some big network show off a public tracker. for christ's sake stick to private trackers.
  • hank22, on 03/28/2008, -0/+0I use torrentflux and then ftp my files off the server.
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