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- cuzican, on 10/12/2007, -4/+30how much money do you make? - it's never enough..
- wwwdot1jesdotus, on 10/12/2007, -12/+33Which is exactly why the pursuit of wealth is futile. Go ahead, mod me down. But you know I'm right.
- NippleNutz, on 10/12/2007, -2/+22Direct Link
http://www.payscale.com/ - VirgoanVenom, on 10/12/2007, -6/+24I bet they didn't direct link because, oh I don't MAYBE because this was already attempted 153 days ago! http://www.digg.com/tech_news/Salary_Survey,_Salaries,_Wages,_Compensation_Information_and_Analysis
I love it, the original DIRECT LINK doesn't work, so let's submit it as blogspam 153 days later!
Sheesh.
/rant over - DannySpace, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18^- Well, at least she taught me how "to" not look like a dumbass. LOL!
- ApplePenguin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11when nobody discusses politics, we end up with things like the Bush Administration.
- Ascendant, on 10/12/2007, -6/+14"how much money do you make? - it's never enough.."
"Which is exactly why the pursuit of wealth is futile."
That seems like a silly way to look at things.
Ask any serious musician if they're as good as they'd like to ever be and they'll tell you, "no, this isn't enough- I'd like to continue getting better." Does that mean that their quest for improvement a futile waste of time?
Ask any organization that works to better a community if they think enough is being done and they'll tell you "We've done a lot of good, but we can still do more." Does that mean we should stop trying to improve our communities? - pondster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7umm no - just click no thank you and you dont need to give an addy
- OnymousHero, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Does it also rate how happy you are compared to how much you earn?
- Synthetik, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8"There’s no analysis or ability to DIGG deep into trends, etc." What bloggers are really thinking about while posting!
- AriaStar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8It depends on what's important to you in life. I make far more than enough ot make my bills, but some people would want more, but I also work part-time and have time to enjoy life. Would I trade the time I have for myself for more money? No. Because life is more important than making more money. What do you want more money for if you never have time to enjoy it?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6"At PayScale users go through a process of disclosing detailed information"
No ***** thanks. I am not giving any company my "detailed information". - m0nk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5That's what makes it more accurate.
- Ascendant, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Why is it that those who say that the pursuit of wealth is futile are always the ones who were born with a silver spoon in their mouth?
- hodyoaten, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I agree... though for blogspam this is a little better than what usually passes for front page material.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -8/+12Gotta love that blogspam
- ApplePenguin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5no, but a garage full of sweet cars just might be :)
- jasnmb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I think what wwwdot1jesdotus meant is that pursuing wealth strictly to become happy is futile. wealth!=happiness
- DannySpace, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7My mother taught me two very important things: never discuss my money or politics.
- DrSkrud, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6It asks too many questions, imo.
- metaphysical, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2According to this, I get paid the most out of all those surveyed who share the same job. Awesome.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3After 5 minutes of filling it out question after question (even asks you what your employer's name is, wtf) I got pretty bored.
How stupid. - gweedo767, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Plain and simple, don't use this crap. They harvest all your data about your job, then in the end require you to login/join to see any results. So they waste all your time getting tons of info, then don't let you see it without joining.
Bury this crap. - Coffeedemon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I love this statement:
" Privacy Notice: PayScale takes your privacy seriously and is sensitive to the nature of information collected on this site"
Well just what the ***** does that mean? The detailed policy states that they will share with "trusted businesses" (who are they) and that if they go bankrupt the info is their asset and will be transferred. Nice and vague... like any good policy I guess. - PimpinOnWelfare, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2They are feeling the digg effect so bad but they will NOT crash it is amazing. 2+ minutes to load a page. I can't even imagine how many searches they are/will be taking in the next few hours. From the looks of things right now I will be truly amazed if they don't get buried.
- ZapWizard, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2According to that website my dog should be taking home and extra $18k, I should kick that slacker out of the house.
- wwwdot1jesdotus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"Why is it that those who say that the pursuit of wealth is futile are always the ones who were born with a silver spoon in their mouth?"
That's true that alot of wealthy people say that. But I have to say, I am DEFINITELY NOT one of them. - davymac, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1haha i so caught that too
- CryingWolf, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Looks like Spam, Smells like Spam, Tastes like Spam, Must be Spam
- Lomi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Well apparently compared to most companies out there I am in the top 17% for my position. However, I am paid significantly more than others in my province.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1And they... are... outta there. "Server experiancing heavy traffic. Please try later" or some crap. Back up in a matter of minutes though, nicely done payscale.
- apoorvs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Money: One thing that programmers don’t care about
They don’t care about money, actually, unless you’re screwing up on the other things. If you start to hear complaints about salaries where you never heard them before, that’s usually a sign that people aren’t really loving their job. If potential new hires just won’t back down on their demands for outlandish salaries, you’re probably dealing with a case of people who are thinking, “Well, if it’s going to have to suck to go to work, at least I should be getting paid well.”
That doesn’t mean you can underpay people, because they do care about justice, and they will get infuriated if they find out that different people are getting different salaries for the same work, or that everyone in your shop is making 20% less than an otherwise identical shop down the road, and suddenly money will be a big issue. You do have to pay competitively, but all said, of all the things that programmers look at in deciding where to work, as long as the salaries are basically fair, they will be surprisingly low on their list of considerations, and offering high salaries is a surprisingly ineffective tool in overcoming problems like the fact that programmers get 15" monitors and salespeople yell at them all the time and the job involves making nuclear weapons out of baby seals.
From: http://www.joelonsoftware.com/printerFriendly/articles/FieldGuidetoDevelopers.html - krakround, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1terrible site. the yahoo job site is better.
after gathering all that data they said they didn't have enough comparable job reports to make a comparison. I guess I'm the only software developer in SF.
Anyway, it's an immature site that's trying to gather data, and they have none. Can't imagine paying them $50 for 6 months of not having anything. - busterbros, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yeah, what is that all about.
- neoknight, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2No *****!
- neoknight, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1it's the new way to spell dig now, watch it get into the dictionaries soon.
- yonas, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1they make you go through the whole ***** survey before telling you to register. *****, that's annoying.
- karn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Too bad that site sucks
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I would ask that anyone looking at these type sites to see how their salary compares automatically add an additional $20k-$50k when they ask your current salary. This way, it skews the scale in your favor when a potential employer uses one of these sites to decide how much they should pay you.
- joeyjojo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Yes, let's not talk about two of the things that affect every day society and our lives. Best to just talk about the weather...
- phlux, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1you spelt "meeelion" wrong.
/pinky - tseif0, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I don't need a survey/graph to tell me I'm broke...
- buryme, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3Couldn't agree with you more wwwdot1jesdotus, but I am guessing that 99% of digg users don't really understand the reasoning behind your comment.
- Mipmap, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1They forget a checkbox for one fringe benefit:
Allowed to read digg.com throughout the work day.
Check! - freakystyley, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Meh, http://www.indeed.com/salary/ seems much more useful.
- RicktheBrick, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It is just like sports players. If you are the best this year than you will demand the most pay the next year. This continues to the point where the salaries of the players make the cost of tickets beyond the amount normal people can afford. The truth is we pay each other so if one gets a pay raise it will come from the salary of another who is not fortunate enough to have the right skills at the right time.
- Nougat, on 10/12/2007, -6/+6*Failing* at the pursuit of wealth is futile. Succeeding is not.
- tarr11, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0DiggNation -
Thanks for all the comments here, on techcrunch, etc. We will be looking at what you are saying to improve our service.
We've added a blog entry on the payscale blog to address some of the criticisms and concerns about how our service works:
blogs.payscale.com/ask_dr_salary/2006/10/developer_salar.html
Also, if you are not interested in taking our survey for privacy reasons, you can also browse cuts of the data by using the Research Center (payscale.com/research).
Thx,
Doug - aullom1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I posted the link to payscale back when I was looking for a new job. Only 5 diggs. Gotta love it! Still, I'm interested in how other jobs compare. I paid the 14.95 to join, and it was worth it in my opinion.
- Kevin108, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0I HATE BLOG LINKS!
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