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- skryingbreath, on 10/12/2007, -13/+84No one gives a *****!
- IvanB, on 10/12/2007, -20/+82Direct link to download: http://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/win/910/en/Opera_9.10_Eng_Setup.exe
- dean, on 10/12/2007, -8/+66And even with all of Opera's "bloat" it still manages to be faster and more secure than Firefox and Internet Explorer.
- haxx4, on 10/12/2007, -3/+55See acid2
- fjc8, on 10/12/2007, -5/+57Are you kidding?
Opera is still smaller and faster than Firefox... and uses much less RAM. - muka3d, on 10/12/2007, -5/+47This is THE browser.
Firefox is great too, but after switching to Opera, I can never go back. - muramasa, on 10/12/2007, -5/+45@ illicium
people using other distros don't need the hand-holding. - DD32, on 10/12/2007, -4/+44@bjweeks
Opera 9.x Vulnerabilities: http://secunia.com/product/10615/ = 2, both patched
Firefox 1.x Vulnerabilities: http://secunia.com/product/4227/ = 38, 4(11%) unpatched.
Opera 8 had 15.. Firefox 0 had 39..
Seems to suggest that Operas still more secure in that respect.
Also one of the fastest browsers IMO.
Also, The weekly releases are usually extremely stable which i've been using for hte past few months.
D - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+38Why does that description sound like an ad?
- fynergy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+33@bjweeks Actually Firefox has a problem with its password manager.
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=360493
And it was exploited. - raj3, on 10/12/2007, -7/+36give it a chance, after using Firefox for hundreds or thousands of hours it's no surprise you're uneasy with Opera at first.
and if you're missing extensions, you'll be pleased to find that Opera already has built in functionality of many popular Firefox extensions.
http://files.myopera.com/Rijk/blog/extensions.html - Ssullivan, on 10/12/2007, -13/+41@Yashu
Get rid of your buggy extensions... - georgemoore13, on 10/12/2007, -1/+28Yes, I am using Opera now, and it doesn't display some sites correctly. but that isn't Opera's fault. It is the fault of site owners.
- jmechy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+26@ jm1234567890: This isn't for lack of compliance on Opera's part. This is for lack of compliance on the banks part. Many websites code to IE6, not web standards, because thats what the majority of their customers use.
Try running a page through the W3C validator and then compare how it renders on different platforms. http://validator.w3.org/ - dimsum05, on 10/12/2007, -20/+44Opera is such a good browser, but I'm kinda stuck on Firefox. It just feels ... better, for some reason... Anywho, the Mini Opera browser is really one of the best phone browsers, bar none. It's really snappy and makes accessing my RSS a breeze(... damn, now I sound like and ad...)
It's an excellent browser, but I already have FF, and having more than two browsers fells like a waist of space... - Klisk, on 10/12/2007, -1/+25Opera is sleek and uses little ram. It also has more features than firefox while being SMALLER. It is better coded, and a better running piece of software.
Running firefox feels like putting 20lbs of weight on both of your ankles. They should of named it Firehog. :( - Shirk, on 10/12/2007, -5/+24Love how the link is to 9.02 still...
- jackcheng, on 10/12/2007, -12/+31Mac version:
http://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/mac/910/Opera_9.10_Setup.dmg - illicium, on 10/12/2007, -5/+23So you give instructions on how to install it on Ubuntu, but not any other distro? I see how it is.
/joke - tybris, on 10/12/2007, -2/+20Opera slow? Opera bloated? You must be a lynx user.
- 8^)Jung, on 10/12/2007, -8/+25Mac Download:
http://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/mac/910/Opera_9.10_Setup.dmg
Linux i386 .DEB (Debian, Ubuntu, etc) Download:
http://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/linux/910/final/en/i386/shared/opera_9.10-20061214.6-shared-qt_en_i386.deb
Linux i386 .RPM (Red Hat, Fedora, etc) Download:
http://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/linux/910/final/en/i386/shared/opera-9.10-20061214.6-shared-qt.i386-en.rpm - brotherfranciz, on 10/12/2007, -3/+18How is Opera "bloated"?
- Klisk, on 10/12/2007, -24/+39I can't use Firefox. Even without any extentions it lags my computer to hell. Trust me, I never installed any extentions on it. Firefox is bloatware with an ugly UI.
Opera on the other hand is lightweight and runs without any hiccups.
I miss when Firefox was Firebird, it actually WORKED and wasn't promoted entirely on hype. - muramasa, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15This POS:
http://img173.imageshack.us/my.php?image=chooseryk8.png - EvilBaby, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13Just checked for updates via the browser and it says there are no updates. Meh guess I'll wait till they send out the message. Looks great though. Any short list of the improvements?
- jmechy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15Why not just keep the all those features and not use them? I just dont understand how prefer downloading a barebones web browser and having to hunt for extensions when there is a free, safe, and feature rich alternative.
- fynergy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12General speed test / comparison:
http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html
Javascript comparison:
http://celtickane.com/projects/jsspeed.php - Shirk, on 10/12/2007, -5/+17One reason I can see why people dislike Opera not being open source is due to it's ad-sponsored past.
- terminalpariah, on 10/12/2007, -6/+17@bjweeks: You are exactly right. "Live free or die," "set him free," etc. *used* to refer to monetary value before these damn commie GNU bastards showed up.
Yep, the word free did not have anything to do with liberty before 1990. - Jammerdelray, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13Both Firefox and Opera are great browsers.....Pick either one and can't go wrong.
- jay314, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11Hit Tools, Appearance. Click "windows native". Click ok.
Was that really so hard? And installing new versions over old versions preserves your settings... you don't have to change it every time.
As for widgets, I don't understand how people are considering them bloat. A widget consists of XHTML, IMAGES, AND JAVASCRIPT. They are just web pages without the window frame. It is absolutely appropriate that a web browser can be used to render them. If you don't want to use them, then don't. - Somniis, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14Why does it suck? Firefox isn't all that great, ya know...
- BillDoE, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10I'm still waiting for my Wii Opera on Nov 19th..hehe
- jambarama, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13Opera has **almost** everything I want. It has a decent IRC client, a great rss reader, and the integrated email client is even usable. Download management (and resuming), bittorrent support, per page preferences, smart tabs, undo closed tab, Opera will even RTFA out loud for you. Mouse gestures are done right, the session saver is the best, the interface is clean and it wastes very little screen real estate. It is quicker and lighter than competitors.
Opera is great really. FF can have all of this too, just a lot (not all) of it takes extensions, and themes, both of which add to the sluggish feel.
But for me I am stuck on FF. The extensions are just too useful--adblock filterset, greasemonkey, automatic backup (FEBE), Foxmarks synchronizer, gmail manager, ietab, et cetera. You just can't easily get all of this functionality on Opera, and I really rely on some of it. - riplikethat, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11Digg loads slow as hell on FF for me compared to loading in a few seconds in Opera. FF these days is doing nothing but ripping features one after other from opera, and FF fanboys (having never tried Opera unlike Opera users who use FF as well.. mostly) post 20 articles on Digg advertising features like Spell Check when they were in opera even before FF team prob even thought about them.
This is how it goes these days..
OPERA Team: "New version includes in-built spell check, ads blocking and 200 other features FF fanboys will never discover but will definitely comment upon."
Digg: "(silence of the lambs)"
-- (after 4 months)
FF Team: "Holy ***** dude, we added Spell Check and 50 vulnerability fixes.. but we are still safer than IE, trust us, we are open source guys after all. Oh and a hidden 'World Domination using morons as fanbase" button is available somewhere near the AWESOME NEW SPELL CHECK option."
Digg: "Fanboys posting at least 5 articles every week for next 2 months talking about each and every feature, and how that feature changed their lives. Few articles again remind you why FF is the best.. because it's open Source, and better than IE.. even though it just came out with 20 more vulnerabilities." - cesclaveria, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9here it is: I like it so much better than the FF extension.
http://operawiki.info/WebDevToolbar - jmechy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Opera equivalents to firefox extensions:
http://virtuelvis.com/archives/2005/09/opera-and-firefox-extensions-ii - Ramble, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Hold right click and scroll.
- worbd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Opera works fine at YouTube...
- Tarmas, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8@muramasa
So you dump Opera altogether just because of a single open/save dialog box? What, it doesn't match your KDE theme or something? Oh, what a shame...
You know, actually you are right about the dialog box being Windows-like, but hell, until you mentioned it, I never even noticed that. Let me just add that I run Opera under various *NIX distros for quite a couple of years now. - livejamie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6have you tried either of these?
http://userjs.org/scripts/general/enhancements/hide-objects
http://userjs.org/scripts/general/enhancements/remove-transparent-flash - Minimalistix, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Opera is a very well thought out browser. Its UI is fully customisable!! It's the user who decides what goes where. If you don't like some default arrangement just right-click > customise to your satisfaction.
Then you have Opera Custom Buttons too that you can place anywhere you like to easily make Opera do just about anything it already can but which would otherwise require multiple clicks/menus.
Like I have placed two checkboxes on the right side of my status bar to globally en/disable javascript and en/disable plug-ins. They're just a single click away!! Plus, all global settings that you've set or have changed temporarily can be easily overridden for particular sites using site-specific preferences.
All those people who think of Opera as bloated software seriously need to give it a try. It's one very nicely integrated Internet application suite that's bound to impress you 'coz the extra leg-room you get to run other applications while browsing is immediately noticeable.
The beauty of Opera lies in the fact that inspite of providing an email client, newsreader, bit-torrent support and irc chat along with the browser all rolled into one it comfortably beats all its standalone counterparts in terms of speed and memory efficiency!!
And why not? It's not without reason it's called the fastest browser on Earth! :) - jmechy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Web_browsers
I doubt it has been updated for 9.1 though. - mediaphile, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Could it be because that's the quoted advertised description on the linked page?
- dgr814vr, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7I have been using opera since version3, when i paid for it, when its claim to fame was that it could fit on a 1.4MB floppy, it is still the worlds smallest(footprint) browser. Go through the preferences, it can mask as IE and ff for non compliant websites. widgets are not active by default. It is light and can do a lot of stuff. those who do'nt like themes can turn them off v easily.
I ask you reconsider it being a watered down version of ff. It has been available even before netscape.it passed acid2 long before ff or IE. Use it for 30 days and c how you go - DD32, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7what function of GoogleToolbar do you actually use?
Operas Inbuilt search handlers do a better job than having a clunky bar in there as well. - pnrl, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Opera has adblock (simpler, but still effective) - rightclick page and choose "Block content...", under [Details] you can add your own URL patterns
Opera has greasemonkey - it's called UserJS, see userjs.org
There's 3rd party sync (rumor has it that Opera will have it's own sync soon).
There's "Open in IE" button on operawiki.info/CustomButtons (sorry, no IEtab). - Devz0r, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6do you mean more than one window? yes, go to file -> new window
- Oryx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5there are browsers OTHER than Opera? REALLY? ;)
I've been using the big red O since version 5. O *is* life :D -
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