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- inactive, on 10/06/2008, -2/+95A very in-depth 2 paragraphs..
- HanSolo69, on 10/07/2008, -4/+83And I love your wife.
- LANjackal, on 10/06/2008, -21/+85"Everywhere?" The article quotes figures from Brazil and Italy only. Buried.
- julesoir, on 10/07/2008, -4/+65Dude, Italy and Brazi have the 7th and 10th largest GDPs in the world. They both brought in more than a trillion USD last year according to the IMF.
Just so you know. - inactive, on 10/07/2008, -35/+81Not nearly as nice as Microsoft Office.
- GreenArgyle, on 10/06/2008, -10/+55I love the OpenOffice v3 beta, and so does my wife.
- svensko, on 10/07/2008, -8/+49Not nearly as expensive either. ;)
- DefaultGen, on 10/07/2008, -3/+39I'm one of those people who bashes open source software because a lot of times it sucks compared to popular retail software, but here I am using OOo because I'm just too lazy to even pirate MS Office.
- codered1322, on 10/07/2008, -34/+64I don't like OpenOffice. I said it.
- SecureXeC, on 10/07/2008, -42/+67News alert: Free software more popular in poverty-ridden areas.
Buried. - svensko, on 10/07/2008, -7/+29Abiword and Gnumeric...
There, I said it. - CalcProgrammer1, on 10/07/2008, -4/+26OpenOffice has been awesome since I got the 2.0 beta back a few years ago. I'm using the 3.0 beta now and it just keeps on getting better. I'd still like the ability to have full-page charts in Calc (ahem, Excel has had this simple feature for HOW LONG?), the ability to add error bars, equations, etc, and have it interpolate missing data in charts (all stuff Excel 2000 did just fine). Other than that, it reads MS Office formats (nobody cares about those idiotic Office 2007 formats, Office 2007 is a stupid joke) and saves them fine. The new presentation backgrounds in Impress are nice, though it could use more, PowerPoint has had tons of them in every release, up until 3.0 OpenOffice only had 2, and they weren't very good.
It's also nice that OpenOffice is cross platform. I have it in Vista, OSX, Ubuntu, and XP and it works great in all of them. - TheG2, on 10/07/2008, -1/+22Awww, you were so close to proving a point, then you dropped to school boy insults....Get a clue.
- Shananra, on 10/07/2008, -1/+22None, oss ftw
- gcnaddict, on 10/07/2008, -7/+27*sigh*
"It doesn't have that stupid Ribbon interface (which was a big roadblock for most of the people who switched to 2007)."
Why do I always have to counter these arguments? The ribbon takes less than a day to learn, and it looks so close to the old layout upon a quick glance that it's literally *retardedly simple* to pick up. This is from my own personal experience deploying Office 2007 on business networks.
The ribbon was designed to save users anywhere from 30 seconds to five MINUTES trying to find features. Microsoft put an obscene amount of research into it via the customer experience improvement program (which only takes anonymous data, such as how long it takes between clicking the menu and finding a menu option which corresponds to what the user wants to do). Based on this and a number of vast user experience studies spanning groups of people in various cultures and language bases, the Ribbon was engineered to save time and, in turn, improve productivity.
This is why colleges and businesses around the developing world are implementing Office 2007 as opposed to switching to OpenOffice. Office 2007 is exponentially easier to use than both OpenOffice and Office 2003.
Office Home and Student 2007 is 150USD for Word, Powerpoint, Excel, and OneNote. Unlike other Office SKUs, it's also installable on 3 computers. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/suites/FX1016740 ...
From my experience, people would prefer to pay 150USD for something that's easier to use than learn something entirely new or revert to an older, tougher to use system. - inactive, on 10/07/2008, -4/+19what kind of half-assed article is this? wow...
- codered1322, on 10/07/2008, -4/+19Oh, I was under the impression that everyone had heard.
- LastDitchHero, on 10/07/2008, -9/+24Neither is a lot of things in life but being less expensive Open Office sure as heck does the job just fine.
- ErickStevenson, on 10/07/2008, -0/+15I have been using OpenOffice on and off, but overall a great free alternative to MS office.
- CalcProgrammer1, on 10/07/2008, -6/+20Not quite sure why Office 2007 caused so many people to change their minds. OpenOffice does almost everything the older Office versions did (1997/2000/2002/2003) and is near perfectly compatible with those formats. It doesn't have that stupid Ribbon interface (which was a big roadblock for most of the people who switched to 2007).
OpenOffice is plenty good enough for normal use (school work, occasional documents/letters, etc). If you need specialized functionality for business use, let your business buy you a copy of MS Office, but for everything else you can get by with OpenOffice quite easily. - inactive, on 10/07/2008, -1/+13Actually if it was a 286, it would run Windows 1.0 or 2.0. In which case both would boot up faster than any Windows past 3.1 :P
- Tenoq, on 10/07/2008, -4/+16Yeah, trying to run it on a 286 will do that to you.
- inactive, on 10/07/2008, -0/+10Lets face it, 99% of us get the hacked MSOffice simply so we can do our resumes. We do not use most of the features in Word, rarely use Excel at all and all the other applications only get launched to test how fast our new system can launch them.
OpenOffice will make a great resume with Writer, so why bother with MSOffice at all? Some will say 'Outlook', ***** me. Again, Outlook has so many powerful features, mostly for enterprise application, that 99% of people will Never use. If you cannot fulfill your home emailing needs with Thunderbird + Lightning, then you're just nuts. - mrmayor92, on 10/07/2008, -4/+14EVERYONE FORGOT ABOUT NOTEPAD WTF!
- ncrev, on 10/07/2008, -1/+11I like Google Docs.
- Tenoq, on 10/07/2008, -3/+13True... but I can buy another PC for the price of MS Office 2k7.
- orirawlings, on 10/07/2008, -0/+9psh... who the hell uses office suites? Vim FTW.
- CptBuck, on 10/07/2008, -5/+14ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba poppa oooo mow ma mow?
- CalcProgrammer1, on 10/07/2008, -3/+11You're usin' a 286? Don't make me laugh, your Windows boots up in what? a day and a half?
- sx66gns, on 10/07/2008, -1/+9Same here mate.
- vuke69, on 10/07/2008, -0/+8I tried to use MS Office. I ended up going back to OpenOffice. I'm just so used to the way that Writer and Calc works, that using MS Office seems cumbersome and awkward.
- vuke69, on 10/07/2008, -2/+910 minutes? Exaggerate much?
It takes 6-7 seconds on my PC (Fedora 9, x86_64, no quick launch)
Sure, flashback two years ago, and yes, OOo was a (heavily sedated) dog. But even then, it was maybe a minute tops, and would drop down to ~15 seconds with quick launch. These days I don't even bother with quick launch.
But, that being said; at least you are using another OUTSTANDING open source app, vs. the pile of festering dog ***** that is MS Office 2007. It never ceases to amaze me, how with each release of a Microsoft product, I come to realize that the previous version of said product, wasn't nearly as bad as I though tit was. - Filter, on 10/07/2008, -0/+7They're doing a lot of things right actually. They have several open source projects and seem to be giving a lot to the open source community. VirtualBox, OpenOffice.org, NetBeans, MySQL, etc.
- cesclaveria, on 10/07/2008, -3/+10that is besides the point, OpenOffice is offered for free while MS Office costs you an arm and a leg if you want to be legit.
Anyways, I prefer Google Docs. - Rowan187, on 10/07/2008, -3/+10Awesome :) I wish they'd remove a bit of the bulk of this so it can run even better on low-end hardware, but overall, I'm proud that Sun has actually done something right!
- gcnaddict, on 10/07/2008, -2/+9"(if you know the locations of stuff in OpenOffice, MS Office 2002/3, or any other program with a "normal" interface, you eventually know how to use it quickly)"
The problem is that most people only know where the basic functions are. There are quite a number of occasions when a particular function is needed which isn't used frequently enough for the user to commit to memory, yet it happens often enough to subtract significant sums of time from productivity.
"I'm sure the Ribbon interface improves usability a bit, and is probably good if you work day-in and day-out clicking away with corporate documents,"
You missed the point. The biggest benefit is with every function, not with mundane functions.
Anyway, If Sun knew anything at all, they'd copy the Ribbon in a heartbeat. It's probably the best UI invention since the toolbar, and Microsoft is begging for others to pick it up without royalties. - bdfariello, on 10/07/2008, -1/+8Dugg for tit, though I don't think MS Office 2007 is as bad as a lot of people say. Sure, things aren't in the exact same place as they were before, but that's because everything was placed in a more logical place.
That being said, I got MS Office 2007 for free through my school. I'd never have paid for it. - PhailQuail, on 10/07/2008, -1/+8It's not like the alternative is any better (Ribbon bar)
- bigredgpk, on 10/07/2008, -0/+6GI Joe!
- tpfaff, on 10/07/2008, -0/+6Gotta love it, ill never buy a Microsoft office program again.
- ramsinks.com, on 10/07/2008, -1/+7Um no, it's better most the time
FileZilla
Firefox
Chrome
Audacity
VLC
OOo
Pidgin
ThunderBird
SunBird
MySQL
PHP
Python
Just a couple..
As if commercial could compare. - Narcowski, on 10/07/2008, -0/+6Indeed, the ribbon is worse. Masses of buttons are good, they mean you have the features available without digging.
- LordBacon, on 10/07/2008, -4/+10Sry, french canadian here.
- bigbill780, on 10/07/2008, -0/+6But these two countries have some of the hottest women on the planet... I see where you are going Sun.
- spyres, on 10/07/2008, -0/+6Openoffice is not written in Java. Only a few areas (wizards, database, etc.) use it.
- inactive, on 10/07/2008, -0/+6Tango is a great project, Ubuntu uses all their icons.
However, the icons from tango do not mix well with an operating system like windows where are the icons have their own brand. Its like having a shirt and pants which are great on their own, but when you put them both on you look like a retard. This is why openoffice looks so much better in Ubuntu, it matches the OS.
Skins for openoffice would solve this, or re-branding your windows with tango icons via the tangopatcher project would also work. - crampy20, on 10/07/2008, -0/+5Surely you should be asking "Breaks Records"? 25% of a market share isn't exactly a record considering... well... microsoft has a 75% market share in that particular example.
- omababy, on 10/07/2008, -1/+6The poorer you are the more enlightened you are?
- inactive, on 10/07/2008, -6/+11Ya Abiword is what i use. I'm too impatient to wait 10 minutes for OpenOffice to load.
- ethana2, on 10/07/2008, -0/+5And, because of that, one of the most popular. That shouldn't be how tha---
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windows, right.
Yeah, people don't care. -
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