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- chrono13, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5To DOUBLE (sometimes tripple) Open Office's speed:
Open Open Office.
Click Tools / Options / -OpenOffice.org / Java / DE-Select "Use a Java Runtime"
Thats it. I've heard this disabled something in Base. But if you don't use it, why load Java? - chrono13, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"I'm sorry, I probably came off as some kind of elitist ass. I really was just trying to see who the problem affects. Now that I think about it, it makes sense. Slower computers should be able to run these applications without any additional bottlenecks, so it makes sense that disabling java would be a big deal for someone trying to do their homework or work a spreadsheet."
I wasn't sure if you were being an ass or not. Clearly not. Yes, there is a major (sometimes double the time) difference in startup with Java disabled. It provides for mostly useless features for the average user.
On more average computers, the difference is very noticeable. On slower computers, Open Office 2 with Java ON, compared to any version of Microsoft Office is astounding. I've seen people buy MS Office because Open Office's speed issues. A major part of those speed issues is Java.
No one should need a gig of RAM and a multi-threading (HT or dual core) 3Ghz+ processor just to open a word processor in reasonable (comparable) time.
AbiWord is a great FOSS alternative to Open Office Writer, and it is much faster (though not necessarily better). It is only a word processor however, and not a whole suite. - Inbal, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Choosing Java 1.5.6 instead of 1.5.4 made it even faster for me than disabling Java altogether. Weird, ha?
- fyre2012, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0when in GODS NAME will OO.o be built SANS JAVA
I hate to say it, but i love how fast office programs start up compared to waiting for OO.o staring at the progress indicator *twitch* - chrono13, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0VetGamerRo
You'll find that with your computer, you can't tell the difference in startup time for most applications. Most non-gaming programs are designed with much lower system specs in mind.
Fast is fast, and any bottle neck you feel would not likely be the same as what most average users are experiencing.
Yes, you have a fast computer. Fantastic. For those that don't, disabling Java in Open Office significantly improves Open Office's startup time. Oh, and yes, we are talking about Windows with the latest version of Open Office and the latest version of Java. - kicou, on 10/12/2007, -0/+02.0.1 final. Check the ftp mirrors.
- J_Omega, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0seriously, it ain't hard to disable Java in OOo. (read chrono13's post)
It's been mentioned time and time again how to. Quit complaining about it.
Unless you're using special features of the DB app, no real need for it.
"Gah, I just installed OpenOffice.org 2.0 yesterday..."
What's the problem? Are you on dial-up? Are you compiling it from source? - chrono13, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The things that disabling Java disables:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_office#Java_controversy
Nothing important to most people. Disable the Java, and save minutes (hours if you use OO frequently) of your life. - bryan8m, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It's unfortunate you have to re-download the entire thing, but bittorrrent brought it in at ~600KBPS (eta 2min)
- piesforyou, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I love open office and would use it exclusively, but there are a couple of problems.
My uni is in love with MSOffice, which means worksheets, lectures and everything else is in the MS format. Pretty much all my coursemates use MS office, which means group work is in MS format. Basically, it's just too much trouble to be using a different format. However whenever I have my own work to do I use OO. - chrono13, on 10/12/2007, -0/+02.01 Stable: http://openoffice.mirrors.pair.com/ftp/stable/2.0.1/
http://mirrors.isc.org/pub/openoffice/stable/2.0.1/ - spyres, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Good update. Dragging toolbars where you want them now displays persistent behavior.
Also a few new (and nice features have been added)
E-mail mail merge is now in and seems to work well. It now recognizes thunderbird address books as a built in addressbook type.
Also, the bullet list system has had some additons in functionality.
Not to mention the whole thing feels better now, not as sluggish. Perhaps that was because I upgraded to the latest version of java and started cleanly uninstalling 2.0 (and all it's profile data) before install 2.0.1. Noticed a huge speed improvement in the use of the built in database app also.
Highly recommended upgrade. - GamaFu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It's kind of weird.
I download it and install it(through the link above),
but the version my OpenOffice shows is still 2.0
Also, how come I can't find any news about 2.0.1 has been released on OpenOffice.org?
Only thing I can find is OpenOffice.org 2.0.1 Release Candidate 5,
so I guess we should wait for the official release of 2.0.1 version. - NotAPoet, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0BitTorrent
http://distribution.openoffice.org/p2p/ - VetGamerRo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I'm sorry, I probably came off as some kind of elitist ass. I really was just trying to see who the problem affects. Now that I think about it, it makes sense. Slower computers should be able to run these applications without any additional bottlenecks, so it makes sense that disabling java would be a big deal for someone trying to do their homework or work a spreadsheet.
- chrono13, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"2 questions
1) Anyone got a torrent link for this release?
2) Do I have to uninstall 2.0 to run the new installer?"
No. No. - VetGamerRo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+02 questions
1) Anyone got a torrent link for this release?
2) Do I have to uninstall 2.0 to run the new installer? - chrono13, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Release notes:
http://development.openoffice.org/releases/2.0.1.html - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0was about time, the application was too buggy at first.
- amoeba, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Open Office is great. An amazing piece of free software that definately rivals, if not beats Microsoft Office. I frequently use it for spreadsheets that Excel just can't seem to get right. Importing CSV files (with Japanese text) that Excel garbles is a breeze with OO.
- sremick, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It's not OO's fault they can't perfectly reverse-engineer the nightmareish proprietary, undocumented, closed-format that Microsoft Word uses.
OO has no trouble with its own as well as other open formats. I use it all the time, both on FreeBSD and Windows. It's great. If you need to share data with a non-OO user and are having trouble with the Word .DOC format, use a better, more-supported (more-open) format understood by both parties.
Hell, 99% of the time, the person I'm sending it to just needs to look at it, so I send as PDF. Resulting file tends to be a lot smaller than a .DOC file anyhow. - ramsinks.com, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Ooo>M$.
GG
http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/openoffice/stable/2.0.1/OOo_2.0.1_Win32Intel_install.exe - Mike_N, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0I'll get it once it's on OOo's official site.
- levi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+02.0.1 Release Candidate
- Niten, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Gah, I just installed OpenOffice.org 2.0 yesterday...
- thetbad, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0If Write loaded tables and images in Word docs correctly, I would use it. If Calc could "Autofilter" properly, I would also use it.
Until then, I don't digg OO. - VetGamerRo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0What kind of computers do you guys have that you notice that Open Office is "slow". I have a 3Ghz with 1.5 gig of ram and I don't notice a problem with slowness. I disabled Java and speed seems to be the same. Must be a problem only on older machines, or is it a problem on non-windows machines.
- tomaburque, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0A .01 update is not news. No digg.
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