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- arizonagroove, on 10/12/2007, -3/+17"Fully "web 2.0" compatibility out of the box!"
What does that even mean? How can you have full compatibility with a buzzword that describes a collection of concepts? - loffeecover, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9A few months ago I wanted to start my own blog, and did quite a lot of research before choosing a CMS. At the end of the day I found a very interesting comparative report that made me choose for Drupal. And till today, I didn't regret for even a split second!
Drupal is not just a blogtool, not just a Content Management System either, but much more than that! Some even prefer to call it a CMS Construction Kit: with Drupal one can (a) manage the content of websites and blogs, but also (b) build a complete Content Management System for multiple users, so they can manage their website or blog, including passwords, access control, etc.
This makes Drupal ideal for blogs, personal websites and company websites, based on a very neat CMS that simply rocks!
Drupal is an open source, php based system which uses a mysql database. The core system can be downloaded from the Drupal website, where tons of additional modules can be found so all your needs will be fullfilled.
Drupal also has a huge community, with 58431 members right at the moment. They all share knowledge in the forum and in the development area, so that any type of question usually gets answered in no time!
All in all, I would say: take a look and see it yourself (: - CritterNYC, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Lots of stuff just works much better in Drupal than in Joomla. A perfect example is friendly URLs. The ability to make your own URLs for every single page is built right in and is a part of the page creation process itself. It's dead easy. In Joomla, it's a seperate admin module and it's pretty flakey. There's a commercial module you can buy that works better that was created by one of Mambo's core developers (several cynics have said that it was almost made so you had to buy this module).
- robertDouglass, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6@jsegers - the core system is definitely a world of improvement over 4.6. The real payload, however, is in the new and exciting possibilities that are offered to those writing new modules. Because Drupal has been made more flexible and more extensible than before, modules have unprecedented capabilities to interact with and manipulate the core system. While there is a good number of excellent 4.7 modules already available, and titles like the Content Construction Kit, Views and the Voting API come to mind, the floodgates have not yet opened and the majority of module developers are yet to discover what they have available to them. Thus, it is safe to say that Drupal 4.7 now is only the beginning, and that one year on, it will surely be a vast and impressive array of tools that we can't yet even imagine.
- robertDouglass, on 10/12/2007, -1/+74.7 is a dream for developers. I'm thrilled that the release is finally available as I've been running sites on the 4.7 branch for months. Congrats to the Drupal team!
- moebis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Been using Drupal for many years now. They really cleaned up the framework. I love the taxonomy, Drupals been usign tagging since before Flickr and del.icio.us. Love it!
- e03179, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Drupal > Mambo
Drupal > Joomla
Drupal > Wordpress
Drupal > MovableType
Drupal > Typepad
Drupal > Geeklog
Drupal > Community Server
I've tried them all and these are the conclusions I've made.
Drupal is about putting text into a database and displaying that information. Basically, it's an interface for PHP, SQL, and Apache making it really easy for an ordinary user to create advanced sites like MTV.com, MySpace.com, CNN.com, ESPN.com or just simple blogs. - linshots, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Drupal vs Joomla?
- doubledoh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4There are several modules available for drupal that address the "unintuitive" user interface. For those of us that just want the framework, it's not necessary (and so isn't included in the core code). What I love about drupal is that you can add dozens and dozens of modules to make your site extremely powerful (and complicated) or you can keep the core code and keep it simple, but highly functional.
Drupal isn't your standard CMS. It really is a framework. It's up to you how "easy" or complex you want it to be. - loffeecover, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4As a designer too, before using Drupal I've tried both Wordpress and Mambo/Joomla! Just because they seemed to be more user friendly. Indeed, seemed to be... Within a few days, I got stuck with both platforms over and over again and it was hard to get things done. With Drupal, I have been able to create several sites exactly the way I wanted them to be. From the beginning, the framework was clear so I could manage things myself or get them done with help of the excellent community.
With Drupal it's very easy to create themes for sections or even pages. So if you want to create a crisp and clean environment for your users, just pick the right theme - or even create one yourself! My users e.g. really love the Burnt Theme for administering. You can find it here http://drupal.org/node/49409 and here http://cvs.drupal.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/drupal/contributions/themes/burnt/screenshot_large.png - mozillamonks, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Articles about 4.7 are at:
http://creativebits.org/drupal_4_7_is_out
http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/node/1518
http://linmagazine.co.il/cms/drupal_47_released-21674 (Hebrew)
Robin - jesusphreak, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3You are correct - the devs have stated before that there are drawbacks to PHP that they aren't particular fans of.
- samikhan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3What can I say, Drupal 4.7 rocks! I agree with Robert above in that 1 year on we're bound to see some very cool developments coming from the community! Also I predict that we're bound to see at least a few large scale public applications of Drupal in terms of community sites. Drupal is very much becoming a more flexible web services and a web application framework as time goes on!
- berkes, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Developers will be thrilled by 4.7. A step towards MVC, more modularity and cleaner; simpler code.
And for the end users, we have added a lot of nifty things too. Fully "web 2.0" compatibility out of the box!
Go grab it yourself, or find a Drupal host of service provider to do the installation for you.
- UnConeD, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3This is no surprise: there was an XML-RPC issue a while ago that affected the majority of all large PHP applications out there. Drupal was one of them (now we use a different, simpler and more transparent XML-RPC library).
- bertboerland, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3indeed, drupal is not a content management System as much as it is a content management Framework. This means you can not only manage your content with it, like the nukes and Mambo a likes, but you have a framework where you can easy deploy your applications
- DoctorWhohaa, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I've seen scans on my drupal machine for Windows vulnerabilities.
- digboy99, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3This is what I get when going to Etomite's website. It does not instill confidence in the package.
« Error »
Etomite encountered the following error while attempting to parse the requested resource:
« PHP Parse Error »
PHP error debug
Error: mysql_connect(): Too many connections
Error type/ Nr.: Warning - 2
File: /home/etomite/public_html/index.php
Line: 107
Line 107 source: if(@!$this->rs = mysql_connect($this->dbConfig['host'], $this->dbConfig['user'], $this->dbConfig['pass'])) {
Parser timing
MySQL: 0.0000 s s (0 Requests)
PHP: 0.0248 s s
Total: 0.0248 s s
Etomite Content Management System
« Error »
Etomite encountered the following error while attempting to parse the requested resource:
« Failed to create the database connection! »
Parser timing
MySQL: 0.0000 s s (0 Requests)
PHP: 0.0264 s s
Total: 0.0264 s s - loffeecover, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Some info here:
- http://icekin.f2o.org/drupal_vs_the_rest - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Drupal can be skinned, so it's as pretty as you want it to be.
- davem, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Still coming to grips with Drupal, my impressions after a few weeks are that it is powerful and extensible, but a little lacking in usability. This may be because I come from a front-end design background rather than a back-end developer background.
- mailman-zero, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I use Drupal on one of the sites I administer. It's still running 4.6.x. I like Drupal. But it required a LOT of hacks to make things work the way my client needed them to and that makes it a lot harder to upgrade to newer releases.
I use Wordpress on my personal site with a SimplePHPgallery. I like Wordpress for its simplicity. I know it's not the same thing as they have very different goals, but I'd have to say that I'm happier with Wordpress as it just feels cleaner than Drupal to me. - noidph, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2For search engine friendly URL's use the pathauto module. But even if you don't use it, one advantage of Drupal is that search engines love it. When I was creating my first website, http://www.FilipinoWriter.com, my dummy posts were already being indexed by Google and I was already having visitors. For this feature alone, I woudn't trade Drupal for any other CMS.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Is Joomla and Mambo the same? If it is, I like Drupal's better. Mambo's might look pretty, but you have to do a lot more clicks to get each thing done, sometimes going to another section to enable this or that, then come back, etc. I like the way Drupal organizes stuff, as if it's predicting what you want to do.
- NickW, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Wonderful news. This one took a long time to get out the gate but i cant wait to start developing for it.
- loof, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Nice! I tried 4.6 awhile back and was really impressed with it but there were a few small things about it that drove me crazy. I'll have to give this a shot.
To the guy above me drupal is a lot cleaner and simpler than joomla but doesn't offer quite as much out of the box options, however there's tons of addons for it. I liked drupal much better than joomla. - jsegers, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Hopefully worth the loooong wait.
- jesusphreak, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I believe the quote is "give a man a fish and you feed him for a day - teach him to fish and you feed him for a lifetime."
Don't get me wrong, Drupal is nice and its the best PHP CMS out there. However, CMSs will never ever provide the flexibility you need. Its like always starting out with your structure in a certain shape and always having to redo that stucture to fit your needs.
I know everyone gets tired of the RoR hype, but it or a framework like Django are much more worth your time - you are never limited to the design decisions of the developers, and you can build exactly what you want and need. - davidv, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Same error as digboy, but you chose them over those others?
- UnConeD, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Not true. Drupal does not use classes, but it /is/ object-oriented in many ways. As seen on digg:
http://www.digg.com/programming/Why_Object_Oriented_Programming_(OOP)_is_not_always_good - ericgundersen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The improvements made by the core developers are awesome. We have 4 sites already running on the 4.7 release candidate and will now upgrade to full 4.7. Working with the drupal community is fantastic! Congratulations to everyone – your work is helping good progressive organizations make a real difference.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It's true, Drupal seems to perform very well in the search engines with its out of the box node/id urls. Crazy, but great. And the path.module provides a way to add your own custom clean urls, and then the pathauto.module gives you an automated way to get things going.
- eaton, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2'Fully web 2.0 compatible' in the sense that a lot of issues have been ironed out with using external JS libraries, and the new forms api makes creating complex but cleanly-degrading AJAXified forms a lot easier.
- DoctorWhohaa, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Have you patched your 4.6.5 installation? 4.6.6 is/was the current stable release. There were several xss attacks that could be (theoretically) used on 4.6.5
- scoreloot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I just installed 4.6 late last night, I am gutted, as now I need to upgrade, I have very few posts so far, so is all good, but man, 12 hours and would have 4.7.... UGGGG
Thanks for the heads up, I wouldn't have gone to Drupal for some time. - Sartori, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Worth mentioning at this point that Drupal's documentation is wrong - it claims to support Postgres 7.3, but doesn't support all of 7.3.x (my webhost has 7.3.2, if I remember correctly, which lacks at least one feature Drupal relies on). The handbook is wrong, and posting to the support forum got no replies. As long as you're on a newer version than 7.3 you should have no problems, apparently!
- estvir, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1how long does fantastico [hosting script for automation of installation of software, for the uninformed] normally take to implement updates like this ? mine is saying 4.6.5 at the moment, but of course, it was /just/ released.
- DeltaZone, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Some Drupal references - from the release note:
"Drupal is an open source content management platform. Equipped with a powerful blend of features, Drupal can support a variety of websites ranging from the personal weblog of Tim Berners-Lee, podcast sites like TWIT.tv, and community driven sites like SpreadFireFox.com, to large media sites like TheOnion.com, and even sites for NASA."
Ref. http://drupal.org/drupal-4.7.0
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http://my.opera.com/DeltaZone - moebis, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2You may have noticed when you were installing 4.6 that 4.7 was at RC4.... this may have been a hint that 4.7 was almost here. I've been using 4.7 since beta, and all RC's. Each time just copying the new files and running update.php. No problems here.
- Rosamunda, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1DITTO!
I didn´t tried Typad, but is pretty similar to MovableType... - calamityjane, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Drupal 4.6 was outstanding; Drupal 4.7 brings things to a whole new level. Many of the layout restraints have been eliminated, allowing a designer with few programing skills to put things exactly where they want. If you have ever struggled with a CMS that mixes layout with code, you will find configuring Drupal to be a breath of fresh air.
- davidv, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1http://www.w3schools.com
- bla4free, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1i wanted to teach my middle school students the art of blogging...but more of how not to get stalked by online predators. i used drupal to create our own classroom community and walk them through the process of registering and what and what not to put in their profiles. i also showed them what and what not to write in blogs that could possibly identify them. i reviewed many products before discovering Drupal. it is an excellent blogging system and i will continue to use it in my classes. i love its ability for using to pick their own theme for their blog. it adds that whole myspace and xanaga touch to it that other products would not support. congrats drupal!!
- athenius22, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Can anyone provide a link to "Information for Beginners?"
At this point HTML is the extent of my webdev knowledge. - ojk007, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1ITs worth it
- dFaktor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@crusty. if you haven't tried drupal, how can you say that ee is easier to use? easier than what?
[edit] or do you mean easier than 4.6? - DoctorWhohaa, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1athenius22, how 'beginner' do you want? Set up? Management? How to do simple things? A simple 'I just want a blog right now, but might want more later' type of beginner?
I have Drupal running my site (http://evilempire.ath.cx) and I haven't had to do anything other than basic HTML. Even then, it's not needed. - scagnetti, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1You can create 'search engine friendly' URLs in Joomla (no mod required) if you're running on Apache. Maybe not the same thing you're talking about though.
- UnConeD, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Check out these Drupal videocasts about the new release:
http://www.digg.com/software/Two_videocasts_about_the_new_Drupal - loffeecover, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1As a designer too, before using Drupal I've tried both Wordpress and Mambo/Joomla! Just because they seemed to be more user friendly. Indeed, seemed to be...
Within a few days, I got stuck with both platforms (over and over again) and it was hard to get things done. With Drupal, so far, I have been able to create several sites exactly the way I want them to be. From the beginning, the Drupal framework was clear to me, I could manage things myself or get them done with help of the excellent community.
Regarding your users: with Drupal it's very easy to create themes for sections or even pages. So if you want to create a crisp and clean environment for your users, just pick the right theme - or even create one yourself! My users e.g. really love the Burnt Theme for administering. You can find it here http://drupal.org/node/49409 and here http://cvs.drupal.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/drupal/contributions/themes/burnt/screenshot_large.png
Usually I run this theme by using the sections module, but there are loads of other ways to do the trick. -
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