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- Vision77, on 10/12/2007, -1/+35Look at the little picture for the cross platform. Is that song bird bangin a penguin?!?!?! LOL
- ComputerKraft, on 10/12/2007, -5/+33Imagine how could this media player / browser could be once the extension developers start going nuts. I can't wait.
Free Apple's stranglehold on digital music sales - use Songbird! - Waterrat, on 10/12/2007, -3/+24 Looks like a winner.
- jdb252, on 10/12/2007, -2/+20Just because it has a compound word with an animal in it doesn't mean it's the next Firefox.
Just kidding, it looks pretty sweet. - MonkeyFit, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15I concur
- Jcterveer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12Its Much better then the old proof of concept. But I'm waiting for 0.3 features from the dev roadmap.
- forgiste, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12I just hope this post doesn't begin a whole new wave of "is * the firefox of *'s" on digg...
- ahawks, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10A general comment on the OSS communitie's tendencies to linger in < 1.0 versions...
First, let me say that I know the products I mention *are* quality, mature, usable products. It's just the impression that their version number gives that I am commenting about.
It's not good. MythTV, this, and quite a few others remain in versions < 1.0 for years. What does that convey to users, critics, etc? That the product isn't near usable. That the developers aren't confident of their work.
If you release it for public use, it's 1.0. .2 RC1 sounds to me like some sketches on someone's napkin, not something I'll consider downloading. MythTV's .20 likewise.
The same could be said for "Beta", except it's becoming such a buzzword that it has the opposite effect ("oohhh, it's beta, it must be hot and fresh!") - Protoss, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Actually check out the extensions, I could have sworn there was an iPod manager extension.
- peterpixel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9True. I just gave it a try and I think it would be really nice to be able to use a crossplatform player like that, that also plays nice with your tags and playback history. Things look good though, especially knowing that the creators of Winamp are behind this.
- Sutoka, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Amarok 2.0 will have a Windows port.
(yay! it posted to the right spot!) - dmoney22, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8wow it brings new meaning to cross platform
- MisterCookie, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9I've been testing it out over the past several weeks. While it isn't at this stage as good as Winamp or AmaroK, it has a lot of potential, with the extensions system and mp3 web browser thingy.
- MisterCookie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8I don't recall iTunes having a built-in web browser or a cool extensions system. Or the ability to play WMA, AAC, Flac, and Ogg Vorbis files, along with most video formats.
- Protoss, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9I hope this turns into something like AmaroK. I would love something close to AmaroK for Windows.
- dandiemer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9I think as far as linux goes, you can't beat Amarok.
- industrealis, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9@bonchx (and anyone else writing it off as an iTunes rip-off
They explained this rather well in one of their early blog posts (http://www.songbirdnest.com/roblord/blog/songbird_vs_itunes). Honestly, though, remember that Firefox is highly skinnable. No one is complaining that firefox is just some IE or Opera ripoff. It brought some new ideas to the table, adopted some good precedents from other products, and then gave us the option to change as much as we want.
Admittedly, I'm not using Songbird now as it was nigh unusable the last time I checked in on it. I do keep my eye on the RSS feed though and I'll be trying again on 0.2. I'm very excited about it, but hearing so many people say the developers suck because they stole the iTunes interface makes me a little sad, because it means that Songbird's interesting features are getting lost in the mix.
And I've got a beer for the first person to skin it to look like Windows Media Player 11. Just for the challenge of course :-D. - dburanen, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8I downloaded the tarball with Ubuntu Dapper... extracted and ran "Songbird" and all seems to be working fairly well. It doesn't quite compete with amarok, but it'll be nice to have a cross-platform music player to help all those windows users convert to Linux or Mac.
- heavensblade23, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7I've tested it a few times since it was announced it's still nowhere near ready for primetime. They're making steady progress, though.
- Pirkel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Okay. I restarted my computer and it works fine...
Blast Windows! - eskay, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11It looks like itunes. But black.
- ho0ber, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I've been messing with it since the proof of concept release, and I also am really impressed with their progress. I think this could end up being a very successful and popular project.
- inactive, on 11/13/2007, -6/+12Weeellll... If it'll play protected AAC, I'd love to use it. As it stands I really don't mind using iTunes as I think it organizes my songs really well. And I consider iTunes a plain vanilla player and that's fine by me. ;-)
I've used it though and I think it's really cool. - Atomic1fire, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7nvu is the firefox of web editing
thunderbird is the firefox of email
obviously joking i tested this once before and it looked ok - MisterCookie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6....That's why its still in the development phase. If you find bugs, report them to http://bugzilla.songbirdnest.com . They need all the testing they can get in time for the official 0.2 release.
- jerwood, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Why are all the little birdies farting?
- MisterCookie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6It's built upon Xulrunner, which is what firefox and alot of other Mozilla stuff uses.
- ErikStaats, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Give me your number! A Songbird iPod extension is available at http://www.windjay.com/ipodsupport.html.
- ePlus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5When it reaches final then I'll change from WinAmp.
- silkysaul, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6@eskay
"It looks like itunes. But black."
Like Windows Media Player 11?? - stoanhart, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5It's OK, and it looks like it has some promise, but it's too buggy to use right now, at least with XGL/Compiz.
-Dragging the window is choppy, and it seems to get stuck at some invisible barrier on the desktop, but the mouse cursor keeps moving.
-It uses custom code to draw itself, which is annoying, because it doesn't have the same title bar as all the other windows.
-It doesn't wobble, as it should with wobbly windows.
-Dragging it over the edge of the screen doesn't rotate the cube, as all other windows do.
I'll stick to amarok for now. - Snyder, on 10/12/2007, -7/+12I'd like to use Songbird, but the farting bird scares me.
- masamunecyrus, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8late edit:
That said, I'd love to switch from Winamp to something else, and Songbird looks pretty cool, what with the browser/media player concept, as well as extensions (which is what made Winamp better when it first came out, it's what makes Firefox better than the other browsers, and perhaps it will make Songbird better than other media players in the future, too). - masamunecyrus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5That'd be one memory-hungry media player if it required Firefox to be open all the time.
- iFrank, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6How cute is the little mascot? Makes me wanna say Aw. (And, there I've gone and said it.)
- ErikStaats, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Songbird's main thrust is not trying to improve upon iTunes' UI. It's trying to open up the online media market beyond the iTunes store.
iTunes is great if you only want to use the iTunes store. If you want to also use eMusic or any of the other stores that seem to be coming out of the woodwork lately, iTunes doesn't provide a great experience.
Songbird provides an open interface that allows any music store to integrate directly into Songbird. In fact, I just released a Songbird eMusic extension (http://www.windjay.com/eMusicextension.html) that demonstrates what Songbird is capable of. - 2000, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6But, will it play multiplexed Ogg Vorbis streams?
- light50, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I hope this hits the ground running. Dugg for the Wikipedia widget alone...
- Jammerdelray, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Songbird is great....One more open source Application that is very useful. Choice - The choice to take advantage of a media player on par with Itunes.
- johnie1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4i know, those little link-to buttons are ace :D
- Disease, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5http://listengnome.free.fr/
- Snakedal337, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I like this media player a lot, but it is missing the only thing that is keeping me from going to any other media player outside winamp:
Dock --> Top, Check Autohide and Always on top.
Best. Setting. Ever. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@fsck3r
Get a decent media player that uses mass storage, and then it's no problem. - reverb, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5..and you thought iTunes 7 was buggy.
- drandallmc, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4the download link says "too many connections" now
- usefulidiot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I use foobar on my older machines (p2-300). Its not that im SOO concerned about my player footprint, its that 80MB is HUGE. Do one task and do it well is a great philosophy for a media player.
- serend, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3wonder what the release of firefox 2 will do for development. curently i think playing mp3's with the overhead of ff 1.5 is too much for fuctionality.
- mynimal, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4At first I thought having a browser integrated into it was simply redundant (I'll use my music players as music players, thank you), but once I started browsing some of the bookmarks I noticed this curious feature - it seems to scan for URLs with mp3 in them, and if it finds any a sort of mini-playlist hovers over the bottom of the page.
Pretty nifty. Running great under Linux. I wonder if I can skin it, it seems to be able to. - roblord, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3The songbird is not bangin' that penguin. It's making sweeeet loooove to that penguin.
- inc4, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3and be sure to join us on the irc at irc.songbirdnest.com and /join #songbird . I hope to see you there!
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