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- subliminalurge, on 11/14/2008, -5/+61PROTIP: Use of the word "protip" is extremely lame.
- inactive, on 11/14/2008, -9/+58The laziness of firefox extension developers is forcing FF users to learn how to override all the so-called "compatibility" *****.
PROTIP: Most extensions that are compatible with 2 are compatible with 3. Just force it.
More information on forcing extensions to install can be found at http://www.jwoulf.net/downloads.html - RobotBuddha, on 11/14/2008, -1/+34Develoeprs to Mozilla: Please stop autoblocking extension downloads from your site based on browser detection if you want us to actually test things.
- metateck, on 11/14/2008, -0/+27No, the original post was blogspam with link to another blogspam. The actual source is http://blog.mozilla.com/addons/2008/10/29/firefox- ...
- aliguana, on 11/14/2008, -0/+24I think there is an element of lazyness, and an element of "I've written the extension, now it's done. If it doesn't work in the new FF, that's not my problem". you have to understand that writing an extension is a commitment, especially if it becomes popular. It has to be said that most of the popular extensions are regularly updated, and the authors are very forward with any problems and such. Kudos to them.
If you've written an extension, and you either haven't got the time to update or can't be bothered, then state it on your website and open it up to someone else taking the extension over. - etx313, on 11/14/2008, -1/+24BROTIP: I found it hilarious, due to extreme lameness.
- inactive, on 11/14/2008, -11/+31Develoeprs to Mozilla: stop bloating the goddamn browser
- knop3se, on 11/14/2008, -1/+17Buried. Heading is misleading, Mozilla would'nt call developers lazy, that would be suicide.
- ScottoGato, on 11/14/2008, -0/+13I don't understand how you could use those add-ons and not understand the use for more add-ons.
- ScottoGato, on 11/14/2008, -0/+11Flock you.
- duckyinc, on 11/14/2008, -6/+14O.o how does on complain when addons are free? You are threatening people who aren't even working for you..
- PecanHead, on 11/15/2008, -0/+8Are you the Gatekeeper?
- shutz, on 11/15/2008, -1/+9On the off chance that a Firefox developer will read this: most extensions that haven't been made compatible yet just need their compatible versions updated, and those that are now incompatible have been made so due to some change in Firefox.
Why not implement a system of dependencies, with a tool that can take an existing extension, and determine all the functions, modules, settings, etc, it depends on, and saves that inside the .XUL file. Later, when a new version comes out, instead of comparing the compatible version numbers, it can compare these dependencies, and either let the extension install, warn the user that some minor changes in Firefox may cause bugs in the extension when it's unlikely but still possible, and when something important to the extension is missing, or has been changed significantly, only then should the extension refuse to install.
That way, extensions that don't depend on many of Firefox's features will be automatically made compatible, while the extensions that do need work will get flagged appropriately, instead of preventing the installation of compatible extensions simply because a developer is too lazy to release a new version with updated compatibility version numbers. - arcooke, on 11/14/2008, -10/+18Blog spam and buried as such. Link directly to the source!
http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/firefox_31_ad ... - houndeyex, on 11/14/2008, -1/+8I agree. Most of them don't get paid to write extensions, so Mozilla can calm the ***** down or update the extensions themselves.
- Vizin, on 11/14/2008, -0/+6what
- daveisfera, on 11/14/2008, -0/+6That's no way to find this information, but I would be interested to see how many of those "incompatibilities" are fictitious and just need to have the compatibility flag updated.
- PleaseJustDie, on 11/14/2008, -1/+7some of them are great for web developers, such as the web developer plugin, I use that plugin more than I talk to my parents, I'd be lost without it sometimes. And greasemonkey lets me watch youtube links embedded in that window and helps keep me from being rick-rolled, so it is essential as well. And DownThemAll is a must have... I have the digg toolbar too, but I could live without it. And AdBlock is pretty nice at times, I just have it disabled most of the time though because some CMS's like to add the adblock code to things I"m working on when putting flash onto a page through a CMS.
- wannapiece, on 11/14/2008, -3/+9developers: if you're going to be one you might want to spell your title correctly
- Games4Life, on 11/15/2008, -0/+5wat.
- LocalDocal, on 11/15/2008, -0/+4Just a browser? A browser is probably the one app on your PC that you use more than anything else, so I can see why some people want a lot of extensions. They're customizing a highly used app to something they like.
Besides, some extensions are truly useful. Aside from the obvious ABP, there's also Down-Them-All, FEBE, Tabs Mix Plus, etc. Hell, FEBE by itself has saved me more times than I can remember; I can't even imagine using a browser without it anymore (apparently, Firefox has got me by the balls now).
Furthermore, when I made the switch from Firefox 2 to Firefox 3, a few of my extensions did not get updated, but fortunately for me, most of them were replaceable. I can understand why people may be nervous to switch to the new Firefox, though, especially if it ends up breaking an extension(s) they love. After all, all they're getting by updating is a bit more speed and perhaps a bit more stability. On the other hand, they're giving up potentially important functions. Sometimes, the latter is more important than the former.
From what I see in this article, Mozilla recognizes this too. - bat-21, on 11/14/2008, -0/+4Or you can use this: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/654 ...
- scamper22, on 11/15/2008, -2/+6Now see the difference between Microsoft and Mozilla with respect to developers.
Mozilla: stop being lazy.
Microsoft: we'll go out of our way to make sure your application stays compatible.
Now perhaps people will come to understand why the broad public sticks to Windows application development. - iofthestorm, on 11/15/2008, -0/+3Well, almost, but anything that deals with bookmarks will be broken since bookmarks in Firefox 3 use a different backend. Also a few other things, but that's the major one.
- inactive, on 11/15/2008, -0/+3Somewhat true, this was much more useful for Firefox 3 betas. (Between different beta versions anyways.)
- libertao, on 11/15/2008, -0/+2Being a native Firefox user, it would take many nonexistent extensions to bring Opera up to speed with all the features to which I am accustomed.
- natterca, on 11/15/2008, -2/+4and perhaps people will understand why Windows is such a huge mess of a *****.
- inactive, on 11/15/2008, -0/+2What is so important about syncing browser history? If it's an important site, just bookmark it.
Or, you could just use Firefox portable... - doshindude, on 11/15/2008, -0/+2Use nightly tester tools and override compatibility. problem solved. FF3 is incredibly better than FF2.
- brundlefly76, on 11/16/2008, -0/+2Developers to Firefox: Stop being LAZY and present a version-independent SDK.
- RobotBuddha, on 11/15/2008, -1/+3@wannapiece
Let us enjoy the freedom which comes from a non-compiled language! Develoeprs, Develoeprs, Develoeprs!
*Chair. - garreh, on 11/16/2008, -0/+2The problem is that Mozilla don't *clearly* show to developers what has changed from build to build so authors may update their extension to make it compatible.
- christophocles, on 11/15/2008, -0/+2weave
- fuzzynyanko, on 11/14/2008, -2/+3I wonder how the dudes that write Mozilla extensions in their free time feel about this, especially those in the middle of their company's crunch time phase.
- Buckiller, on 12/06/2008, -0/+1I wouldnt want to do that if I were Mozilla :p way more work than other way around.
- l815, on 11/14/2008, -7/+8I only use adblock, foxmarks, and few themes (which are compatible to date). I don't understand the need to have so many addons. It's just a browser...
Just my lack of understanding. I find nothing wrong with it. - scy1192, on 11/15/2008, -0/+1it's integrated in Opera.
http://www.opera.com/products/link/
http://link.opera.com - arcooke, on 11/14/2008, -1/+2That works too. I didn't see any links to the source on readwriteweb right away. Thanks for pointing that out.
I hate how bloggers operate sometimes. "Look, a good article! Let's write a short opinion about it and publish it to earn money!" - gmiller, on 12/07/2008, -0/+1I set maxVersion=9.0 in all of my extensions.
- brutuscat, on 11/17/2008, -0/+1I'm agree too, as a add-on dev I have to told you the laziness is from Mozilla, they don't provide us with a proper API to handle the compatability issues. If you take a look to the Tab Mix Plus code you will see several huge if statements, one for every "incompatible" extension.
The issues are in several components, for example, if I set a icon next to the close tab "X" could be overridden by other addon doing the same, so how can I handle the almost infinite addon cases? Please tell me how mozilla!!! - wigginz, on 11/18/2008, -0/+1Who has time to figure out what needs to be done for a new FF version? Any of the popular extensions have enough developer support to manage it, but most extensions (like mine) are just written as hobbies. I don't have time to figure out what compatibility issues my extension has... but then again I'm the only one that uses it (to my knowledge heh).
- myhandleondigg, on 11/15/2008, -0/+1Your history is in a folder under documents/username/application data/mozilla/firefox/profiles/gibberish in a file called places.sqlite
- edd17, on 11/15/2008, -0/+1
- cdigioia, on 11/15/2008, -1/+2But he's a professional, look it up in the book.
- MiDri, on 11/15/2008, -0/+1Why do the work when the Mozilla team can be the ones to be lazy and not the developers?
- ray86, on 11/15/2008, -0/+1list them
- rtechie, on 11/15/2008, -0/+1I still use FireFox 2 because my favorite extension, Google Browser Sync, does not work in Firefox 3 and Mozilla Weave is nowhere near ready yet. They're actually going to turn off the server for Google Browser Sync next month and I'll be very sad to see it go. I suppose I'll have to switch to FoxMarks and loose syncing my browser history.
Does anyone know of an extension or app for ANY browser that can sync browser history?
I'd switch to Opera or Internet Explorer or Chrome for this feature. - hobophobe, on 11/15/2008, -0/+1I'll update my extension when they either fix the problems in the current nightlies so I can, or they provide updated docs explaining what the new access method for SQL-based templates and the places database are.
- inactive, on 11/15/2008, -0/+1Adblock, NoScript, FEBE, DownThemAll, Linkification, IE Tab, Media Converter, 1-Click Weather, FoxyTunes, ColorZilla, ScreenGrab, and Smoothwheel.
Yes.. I use them all regularly. -
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