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- brklynmark, on 10/25/2007, -11/+82As long as it doesn't crash every time it opens a PDF, I'm down.
- CrackedTech, on 10/17/2007, -5/+67Did anyone else feel like they were looking at photoshopped image of WMP 11?
- moman, on 10/10/2007, -2/+40Looks cool but looks complicated. I fully support adding cool new features but I hope they also keep the simple bookmark system for users like me who don't need/want any frills
- hadak, on 10/10/2007, -13/+47Why do we need to keep packing more and more ***** in to firefox? Isn't it bloated enough? Honestly. Firefox should be a "core"...and if you want all this extra *****, it should be in the form of extensions....extensions that you can enable and disable at will, to preserve startup times and disk space. Can we work on something important instead? How about my firefox using up to 1gb of memory? How about it *locking up* whenever I open a couple of digg tabs, or try to digg a comment or article? There are plenty of improvements aside from the UI. In the end, it's JUST a web browser. Making it respond faster, and giving you the *option* of adding on extra bloat is what should make it stand apart.
- dshPls, on 10/25/2007, -4/+28iGoogle and Digg always give me freezes and slowdowns, and I'm on a superfast machine too. It's probably a mix of FF and AJAX though, not just one or the other.
- ZephyrNinety, on 10/17/2007, -22/+45Looks slick, but I could do without the Vista-ness.
- mimilena, on 10/10/2007, -2/+22Umm... that's only if you're using Windows Vista. It blends into the theme you're using.
- Piedramente, on 10/25/2007, -0/+20The same keeps happening to me. Especially during digging or burying.
- khoa1708, on 10/10/2007, -0/+19i use foxit reader and haven't crashed
- Ancestor, on 10/10/2007, -2/+21So, the only logical conclusion would be that, err... you want to remove Bookmarks and History? Because that's all there is to it. Mozilla isn't adding anything, they are redesigning and improving the features that have been there forever. They are making them more useful and actually lighter.
Seriously, now they can't even CHANGE anything (let alone add any new features whatsoever) without people screaming "OMG BLOAT". - ucg1, on 10/10/2007, -3/+21Only a fool uses the PDF plugin (in any browser, especially a single-threaded browser that becomes unresponsive until a plugin is done working). Just let it download and launch your PDF reader. There are no benefits to using the plugin.
- Mejogid, on 10/25/2007, -2/+20The nightly builds are already vastly improved, with better startup speed, general performance, integeration (eg. with growl, better MIME behavior), native form widgets and - incredibly, for nightly builds - stability in my experience. I will agree that Firefox 2 is a disgrace on OS X, but it's been great watching the GTK and OS X versions being brought up to scratch.
- zwaldowski, on 10/10/2007, -0/+17So, wait, are you saying BOOKMARK FUNCTIONALITY should be a plugin? Tagging and places are OPTIONAL, in case you haven't read any of this before, and bookmarks themselves (organizing aside) are much, much faster due to the SQLite system. Go back to using IE.
- NoNamesLeft, on 10/23/2007, -24/+40Look's nice for Vista users but what about OS X, Linux etc? The OS X port of 2.xx in particular is a disgrace, the widgets look like they came straight from 1995.
- raynar, on 10/25/2007, -2/+17It's because Digg would rather have fancy comment effects instead of just threading them like slashdot. Come on digg, you took THAT idea, take the whole thing!
- rlombardo, on 11/05/2008, -1/+15Umm one browser to rule them all?
Isn't that the problem we've had with IE? Don't you see by having these multiple browsers it creates competition which in turn means better products for us? If everyone used firefox what incentive would mozilla have to improve their browser? And if everyone used firefox, wouldn't 1337 h4x0r5 want to switch targets from IE to firefox? - whataboutdave, on 10/10/2007, -1/+15Oh, you Opera folk. Firefox could cure cancer and you'd still swear your love for Opera.
- coheedcollapse, on 10/10/2007, -0/+13If you really can't imagine that same thing with the mac window setup, you have very bad visual skills.
- darkNiGHTS, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11It says "mockup" in the title for a reason.
- Piedramente, on 10/17/2007, -1/+11Agreed. I was wondering how it would look in XP as well.
- thebankshow, on 10/10/2007, -3/+12integeration ? is that the generation of integers?
Seriously though, I'm glad they've decided to move forward with the Places concept. IMO it's a long awaited innovation in browser user experience. Also pretty excited to see the microformats and SVG implementations. - o2unix, on 10/10/2007, -7/+16WOW! I like.
- VeganG, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9Yeah, I never asked to have the bookmarks, history, and downloads in one place. Those are all very different things, why would I want them together?
- bigern75, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9take a look at all the mock ups
http://people.mozilla.com/~faaborg/files/granParadisoUI/ - darkNiGHTS, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11Ummm that would be because of the fact that it's on Vista. lol.
- toastgodsupreme, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10I'm still waiting for some quicksilver-like items. More keyboard functionality for quicker navigation.
http://labs.mozilla.com/2007/07/the-graphical-keyboard-user-interface/ - renegadeafk, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8All they are doing is combining bookmarks, history ect.. into one place and actually make it LIGHTER using SQlite. And it will not look like vista on other platforms, the mock up is simply in vista.
- zwaldowski, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9Note to Mozilla: do all mockups cross-platform, just in case users think you're using Windows Vista menus in Linux. /sarcasm
- asurroca, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7FF3 is (finally) using the OS's native schemes for everything, so don't worry, it'll look like a full-blown OS X program in OS X, and a full-blown Vista program in Vista, etc. etc.
- vemerge, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7What?
- Tyr7BE, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Yeah for me it grinds to a halt when there are a lot of comments. Only seems to have started happening with the new comment system, though I could be wrong.
- manstein01, on 10/10/2007, -4/+11I haven't had the other problems many have stated, save for the memory leak issue. But I completely agree, FF should be about a simple small stable web browser. I don't need fancy bookmark areas or the ability to download web applications and use them offline.
- MrViklund, on 10/17/2007, -6/+12Very cool. Can't wait for Firefox 3! :)
One browser to rule 'em all... - n8r0n, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7Good to see that mconnor is getting that "revert to backup" option he/she wants...
- NikoKun, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6wow, nice... I just hope my extensions wont crap out once version 3 is released...
- Piedramente, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5They might. But most of them get updated pretty quickly
- smitjel, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Who needs all this fluff when you've got del.icio.us? There's no way I'd go back to storing bookmarks locally.
- zwaldowski, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6It's a mockup in Vista, what do you expect? The Linux version will look like GTK+, and the Mac version will look like Aqua.
- alwaysmc2, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4pretty :-)
- luchid, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Not to sound like an advertisemente, but go download Foxit Reader. The fastest PDF reader... It's free too...
- mfearby, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4I'm with you there, sport. I cringe every time I click on a link without noticing that it's a PDF and regret not right-clicking and saying "Save Target As". The number of times frigging Acrobat has locked up my web browser (both IE and Firefox) is enough to swear you off the dreaded things for life. Seriously, Adobe... A bloody document reader shouldn't be such a great, big, elephant for Christ's sake!
- op12, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4No, the beta of Firefox 3 is not out yet. There have been 7 alphas so far under the Gran Paradiso name.
You can get them here:
http://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox3/Schedule - exomni, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5Plus it's based on Gecko, so it has all the compatibility of Firefox.
- DeviantSeptum, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3The original poster is 100% correct. It's the browser's job to render HTML documents. Requiring it to also be a PDF viewer is the road to bloat. By ethnanmccarthy's logic, the browser should also render Word, LaTeX, postscript, Excel, and so on and so on. There's no real benefit --- NONE --- to having it open in the browser window compared to spawning an external app but there's huge design benefits to keeping an application simple.
- MrViklund, on 10/10/2007, -4/+7Strange. Have never had that problem in all my years of Mozilla Suite and Firefox use. Allot of problems that people are having usually aren't general problems with Firefox. But anyway. Hope 3.0 solves your problem.
- zwaldowski, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Bookmarks are still pretty much the same for people who don't organize them.
- bman784, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Acrobat is slow like nothing else and will crash the browser. I use Foxit, which is much much faster and worlds better.
- asurroca, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I'm guessing you've never actually used Vista... In most windows, the "glass" is only around the dragbar at the top and surrounding the window. IOW that mockup is a pretty standard Vista window...
- renegadeafk, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Thank you good sir
- exomni, on 10/10/2007, -3/+6If I ever had to open PDF's in a seperate program, I would immediately switch web-browsers.
Opening PDF's within a browser is a simple, core requirement of any web-browser. -
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