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- m85476585, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12Thunderbird is better for avarage home users, not corporate usere that need all of the features of Outlook.
- rdmsoft, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9The official release will be tomorrow (Thursday). These builds are very likely to be final, but not guaranteed.
- Gryffydd, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8How is Thunderbird better than Outlook? IMAP. Outlook (including 2003) is a ***** IMAP client.
- sremick, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7If you're using Hotmail, you need to get off that as badly as you need to get off Outlook Express.
http://reviews.designtechnica.com/guide51.html - m85476585, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10You like OE more than Thunderbird?!?!?! I can understand liking Outlook better, but not OE.
- dallen, on 10/12/2007, -8/+13Thunderbird is great, but it doesn't even come close to replacing Outlook. Outlook Express is a better comparison in terms of features
- ramsinks.com, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Sure ya can. Once you customize TB and play with it - you'll never go back to that lack-luster POP client.
Superior spam filtering is just one reason to switch.
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Using_webmail_with_your_email_client#Extension
When I feel some business client dosn't really need an expensive server and exchange with all the seat licences - I set them up on TB and have them use Gcal for calendar sharing. - done. - ramsinks.com, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Fully un-install.
Go to docs/settings/user - local settings - delete TB
Go to docs/settings/user/application data/local settings - delete TB
re-install
enjoy. - norbiu, on 10/12/2007, -12/+15I pity the Outlook users.
- frankthechicken, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Try the extension from here:
http://webmail.mozdev.org/
Works for me anyway. - Konquest, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Check for the bugs report on the official site, And if nothing is found, file a bug yourself, that's the best way to get it solved...
- soogy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5I prefer Thunderbird, obviously it doesn't match Outlook, which comes part of the Office suite for a reason. However, Thunderbird has a much cleaner design than Outlook, and is immensely easier to use (well, except for adding accounts, but once you get used to that, you'll be fine).
The biggest problem with Thunderbird, in my opinion, is the lack of synchronization features a la Outlook. That would be a major bonus if I could sync my Thunderbird mail with my PDA.
Oh yeah, Thunderbird is also chock full of open-source goodness. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6How can you understand liking Outlook? I personally find it to be the most bloated crashy mail client ever. Sure it's feature rich if you're a corporate user, but what good is it if it's not stable and the parent company doesn't give a crap about fixing that?
- jmknapp, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7The main feature of 1.5.0.2 is a raft of fixes for a bunch of nasty security holes but that will get no play on digg/slashdot.
- sammyc53, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Here is a list of all the FIXES:
http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/rumblingedge/archives/2006/02/1-5-0-2.html - webpoet73, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Funny how one of the fixed issues is for the Univeral Binary, yet it's not. The Activity Manager reports it as PowerPC.
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=327848
Perhaps this isn't truely the final build? It's not on the main Thunderbird page here:
http://www.mozilla.com/thunderbird/
Still says 1.5 for Mac OS X (English) 10.7 MB - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2does pgp work w/ thunderbird?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Do you have the BugZilla id # , or link to the bug report for it?
Thanks. - ikkebra, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Then again, Outlook can't even handle one IMAP account.
- superstewy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3I really want to switch to Thunderbird but I use Outlook Express since I can get my hotmail through that. I'm pretty sure you can't get your hotmail mail through Thunderbird...right?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I've been using enigmail http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ with Thunderbird for awhile (this is a plugin to support GPG http://www.gnupg.org/, an open source implementation of a PGP-like encryption), and your post reminds me that I haven't checked if it's still working after the upgrade a couple days back.
- martynda, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3The key feature to Thunderbird and one of the reasons for me using it is Junk controls... see an email you don't like, just click on the junk button in the toolbar. To my knowledge, you have to do quite a bit of tinkering with Outlook 2003 for it to recognize Spam.
- leoCT, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Still, nothing beats good old Pine. Especially for Windows (but I use it on a Mac or directly in the Unix server). 100% free of virus, annoyances and html.
- Danarchy24, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2GPG Key add-in extenstions that are easy to use make Thunderbird a better client that Outlook. I haven't an application that can be easily used in Outlook for GPG, and would love to hear from somebody if they know of one. Until then you can't beat the easy integration Enigmail offers for Thunderbird.
- webpoet73, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I did. I installed the 1.5.0.2 and verified it in the "About Thunderbird" dialoge box. The Activity Monitor still shows it as "PowerPC." That is a little disappointing since the 1.5.0.2 version of Firefox is Universal and is so much faster on my Intel Mac.
- ikkebra, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Outlook is great, but if you add more than one IMAP account, you might as well use webmail if you don't have all day to sit around waiting for Outlook to retrieve your new mail.
- sammyc53, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2EVERYTIME I close thunderbird, it hangs and my CPU goes 100%. Task Manager to Kill.
This is the same with every release. Problems exists even after rebuilds. XP Pro SP2. What gives?
Has anyone seen this? Or am I an odd duck? - salmonmoose, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Does not fix the reply to forwarded message bug - still have to use 2.0a1 :(
- freonchill, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2i thought if you did the "premium" of any normally free web client style email (hotmail, yahoo, etc) that it would allow you to use their pop3 & smtp servers... assuming your ISP doesnt block other smtp servers... bellsouth anyone ?
- nighthwk1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Enigmail works great, but hopefully some skilled developers (I'm not one) can get the next several features on the roadmap soon. Things like making it easier for new users, tighter integration with Mozilla apps, etc.
It will be very cool once we can automatically use encryption over webmail... - salmonmoose, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Yeah, unless your email account is a point of contact for a major business, and you receive in the order of thousands of spam emails a day.
- therernospoons, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@webpoet73: It still says 1.5 for Windows too. You just have to go to the FTP and get it there.
- batgrrrl, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3There is a plugin you can get to check your Hotmail account in Thunderbird -
http://digg.com/software/Check_Hotmail_and_Yahoo_e-mail_in_Thunderbird_
(Sorry Frank, you beat me to it!) - Danarchy24, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Use the enigmail extenstion. It easy to configure and use. Try using in conjuction with something like GPGTools, for the ultimate ease of use.
- m85476585, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2This is an update.
- chirbirch, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1just installed it... all account folders finally compacted with out hanging. hopefully this is the last of profile inbox folder manipulation.
- WaterDragon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I wonder if they fixed the bug that many TBird users found, that it just won't save 'sent mail.'
It wasn't on the list of bug fixes, so maybe not.
Damn! - eatmorgnome, on 10/12/2007, -10/+10"I pity the Outlook users."
Why?
Outlook 2003 and Exhange 2003 and a dash of Sharepoint = collaboration goodness.
I install Thunderbird for anyone not using Exchange, but really, the above combo is great. - kayla, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Thunderbird has weird issues.. Sometimes if I insert an image and send the email, the image disappears completely. The email shoots off very quickly and I go into the sent folder, and no, the image is no longer there where I put it. Needless to say, my Care Bear collectibles eBay auctions are now suffering.
Thunderbird makes Care Bears cry. - BloodJunkie, on 10/12/2007, -8/+8How is Thunderbird better than Outlook? I've never heard anyone suggest that it is so good that it makes Outlook users pitiable.
- dsander, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1All you need to do in outlook 2003 is right click on the email then add to junk. very simple.
- frontpage, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2The one thing about Outlook that makes me want to murder everything on the planet in the most gruesome way imaginable is that when I drag the scroll box next to my list of messages, the list DOES NOT GODDAMN MOVE OH GOD I AM FULL OF MURDER AGAIN ARGH NO SORRY FOLKS
- smspence, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4ummm, spyres, I don't think that's what jmknapp is trying to say at all.
- pluto9, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Wonder if this fixes the threading issues seen on dual-core systems.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+5There is so much proprietary stuff in the Outlook/Exchange MAPI protocol that IMAP/POP can never hope to compete on a fucntionality basis. On a price basis though....
- stuffhappens, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Install SpamBayes?
- spyres, on 10/12/2007, -6/+4Yeah, it's terrible that they're actually fixing issues. Damned if they do and damned if they don't I suppose.
Meh. - jeremy66158, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1I've had it for a couple days now...think I saw it on Digg?
- corrosive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2Office 12 is even better than 2003.
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