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- Anliz, on 10/12/2007, -2/+118Whats New:
* Message Tags: Create your own tags for organizing email. Messages can be assigned any number of tags. Tags can be combined with saved searches and mail views to make it easier to organize email.
* Visual Theme:Thunderbird 2's theme and user interface have been updated to improve usability.
* Session History Navigation: Back and Forward buttons allow navigation through message history.
* Folder Views: Customize the folder pane to show favorite, unread or recent folders.
* Improved Support For Extensions: Extensions can now add custom columns to the message list pane in addition to storing custom message data in the mail database.
* Improved Offline Management: Thunderbird (Linux and Windows) automatically adjusts the offline state based on current network connectivity.
* Improved New Mail Notification Alerts:New mail alerts include information such as the subject, sender and message text.
* Folder Summary Popups: Mouse over a folder with new messages to see a summary of the new messages in that folder.
* Saved Search Folder Performance: Search results for saved search folders are now cached, improving folder loading performance.
* Find As You Type
* Improved Filing Tools: Recent folder menu items for moving and copying folders to recently used folders. Move / Copy again functionality.
* Updates to the extension system: The extension system has been updated to provide enhanced security and to allow for easier localization of extensions.
* New Windows installer: Based on Nullsoft Scriptable Install System, the new Windows installer resolves many long-standing issues.
* MacOS X Univesal Binaries - Grimdotdotdot, on 10/12/2007, -14/+59Get a PC?
(I'm going to pay for that one) - ucg1, on 10/12/2007, -6/+25@mindsocket
Get with the times old man. HTML is useful in e-mails, especially for work e-mails where I need to include images, format text differently (code snippets, for example), etc. Plain text just doesn't cut it for those kind of e-mails. I use HTML for Slashdot postings, why not e-mails? - silverfire, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14I've been using the nightly builds and updating every night. It's pretty stable even with fairly heavy use (three email accouts - one IMAP, two POP, 17 RSS feeds, and one news server), and its patented Mozilla Memory Leak™ is less severe than with 1.5.
It's much faster and responsive when going through email folders with thousands of emails, and no longer hangs in a lot of the situations that would cause the old version to do so. - mindsocket, on 10/12/2007, -18/+30@troydoogle
HTML is for web sites, not email. For the love of $deity, please no html in email. - exsst, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13Brilliant, p.s. thanks for the changelog.
- Endemoniada, on 10/12/2007, -10/+20Please, please, PLEASE don't digg straight-to-download links. If I know enough about it to download it right away, chances are I've already heard about it. Other people will probably want to read a little about what the program does, or precisely what's new in this particular version before downloading it.
I buried this because it's a prime example of how NOT to digg stories. Not to mention it's not even worth digging since it's just the very first beta release. Come back when it's released, or atleast when there's an RC to test. - tempusrob, on 10/12/2007, -4/+14Ugh ... don't digg this dude down, he's got a point. If someone clicks the link thinking "Hmm, what's Thunderbird?" (because let's face it, the description here sucks) all they're going to see is download/install info. Leave the "#download" off the URL and it at least presents some information about what Thunderbird actually is.
- fishbert, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7@versionist
"Can we PLEASE get email headers other than:
John Smith Wrote:
...
John Smith wrote WHEN? Who else was the email to? What was the SUBJECT?
So annoying."
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Sure, what would you like to to be?
http://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/tips#beh_replyheader - teddyrux, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8I'd be intrigued to try it out, but how buggy is it? I just don't want to sign on and lose all my emails and settings and accounts. Does it install over the original?
- spiffyjeff, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Here's what you need to know: Thunderbird had a specific directory that stores all your configs, including extensions:
(I apologize for digg stripping out special characters in advance):
Win XP/2K: C:Documents and Settings[User Name]Application DataThunderbird
Win 9x: C:WINDOWSApplication DataMozillaThunderbird
Linux: ~/.thunderbird
Mac OS X: ~/Library/Thunderbird
Just find the thunderbird directory for your system and create a COPY of it to another location of your hard drive, or wherever. for example copy Thunderbird to Thunderbird.bak. This includes e-mail, address book, settings, extensions, all your personal settings.
Also, you can migrate your settings to another operating systems, simply by placing the thunderbird directory in the corresponding location (and renaming to either Thunderbird or .thunderbird depending on if you are going to or from Linux)
In any case, if you do backups, this should be an important directory for you anyway. - yum9me, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8I like the new look. It kinda brings it close to Firefox standards. I was getting tired of the old 1.5 look.
- MattElmore, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Delete ~/Library/Thunderbird/Profiles/[whateveryourprofilehashis]/.parentlock
- barthosch, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Errr... Thunderbird always did have an RSS reader didn't it? At least 1.5 does.
- spiffyjeff, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5If you have troubles interpreting the directories in my prev. post, go here:
http://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/profile#locate - rafaelcapanema, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Running Windows XP:
http://static.flickr.com/140/321264746_3cc32becda_o.png - Gigadafud, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5version 2 beta 1 (20061206)
- haooken, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Very nice. I agree, the 1.5 look was getting old. And I love how the Junk icon is a flame, lol.
On a side note, can anyone recommend any worthwhile extensions for TBird? (I still have 1.5, so I'll probably use that, for compatibility reasons...) - Terr, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I've been using the beta for several weeks now (there were builds available before, but you had to look for them). I haven't found any bugs so far, while I'm happy with the new look and the new mail notification.
- unknownsoldierX, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I was hoping they would add an account settings import/export feature. It would make sense, since novice computer users don't know how to back up their profile folders.
- mattatron, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Can anyone post the build number? I've been running the beta for a while now and the build I'm using is "version 2 beta 1 (20061118)".
- RonaldLewis, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8You guys are still using desktop mail applications? :) Just kidding. Looks good.
- KotZer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3wow the changes are really good and will add a lot to the mailing experience ... Cant wait for the final release !!! Can anyone post a screenshot of the new interface?
- koregaonpark, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Woohoo! I'm actually happy about this beta release. FOSS forever.
- SmudgeTheFirst, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I installed it into a separate folder just to test it. It wasn't quite compatible with two extensions I really enjoy, so I just uninstalled the beta and 1.5 kept on working for me.
- dep01, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I can't believe you can "tag" emails but then there's absolutely no way to navigate through your email based on these tags. wtf??
- kapowaz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Ugh. First impressions are not good. They've uglified the UI, made some nonsensical changes to the icons (what was wrong with the old ones? a *flame* means junk? eh??) and they've stuffed up the options screen. Compare the look and feel of this beta to Firefox 2's option screen; remember that Thunderbird was intended to be Firefox's counterpart for email, and yet they have subtly different icons and presentations. That glossy effect with back-glow for the option categories is utterly dire - it looks like a pastiche of Apple's UIs. This is the sort of thing I expect from Microsoft, not Mozilla. The folder icons for mail are now these portrait-oriented abberations which are more representative of the sort of icon used for folders on obscure Linux systems than those on Windows, Mac OS or modern Linux systems will be familiar with. Oh, and the RSS icon, which was originally invented by the Firefox team, has been replaced by these strange looking sphere with rings designs. Way to go to make the most of one of your best inventions...
Then there's this new multiple-folder view feature, which is atrociously implemented. The two little arrows on the right side at the top of the folder pane are absurdly small and difficult to click, and their function is pretty much subject to guesswork. What determines the order in which you cycle between the views? How are you to know which view is next? Did anybody give this feature even the slightest bit of thought?
In terms of the good, I'm glad they're finally showing information like subject and message preview in the alert, but it's annoying to see that messages that are flagged as junk still get previewed before being deleted (I always hated seeing a new message alert only to find there were 0 unread messages - because the new message was determined to be junk). I also think it's about time that Thunderbird followed Mail.app's lead and allowed users to 'hide' messages flagged for deletion on IMAP servers rather than cluttering up the inbox with messages you no longer have an interest in seeing. Make permanent deletion a secondary step, but don't make browsing the contents of the inbox difficult by retaining the view of useless messages. - rafaelcapanema, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4And under Ubuntu Edgy:
http://static.flickr.com/136/321347586_6493e6e2bf_o.png - lagrange, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5screens?
- jaredvolkl, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2What a coincidence! I was just checking the roadmap an hour ago to see when 2.0 would be out and now I have something to play with.
- CritterNYC, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3"It just needs a simple way to add in and create html signatures. like the stuff that outlook express had like 5 years ago..."
Sure, use HTML in your email and signatures if you want to double the chances of your message being dropped into the recipient's Junk folder. - mattatron, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Thanks!
- loof, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I like the beta a lot so far. My only issue so far is my minimize to tray extension doesn't work with it. Now if only sunbird/lightening would come out so I could have a decent calendar too.
- K4P741NxKRUNCH, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I think it should have included a popup system that gets your mail without you actually having to open thunderbird. Hell I wouldn't even mind it adding a mail downloader program to my startup.
There used to be a great extension called minimize to tray, unfortunately It never saved the settings that I put into it and it became just an annoyance. - vitriolix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2i use imap and have never had this trouble. sounds like an isolated case... have you helped them track it down in bugzilla?
- ucg1, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4*cough*IMAP*cough*
- JoeCotellese, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I've been using Thunderbird 1.5 and following the GTD methodology. I basically color code each of my emails for Action, Waiting For, Defer, Archive, Delete. I've been doing this for about a month and the system works great. However...
The one feature I was looking for is the ability to tag my emails. I have a lot of emails in my archive folder. Grouping them into sub folders always seemed inefficient to me. I'd rather rely on the PCs ability to search rather than my vague recollection of a folder structure. My conclusion was that tagging emails would make email recall a more efficient process. Kudos to the Thunderbird crew for adding this feature! - fishbert, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3"I USE thunderbird, but only because Outlook had problems on this particular machine..."
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I USE thunderbird, but only because Outlook had problems being bent over the table by Exploit-of-the-Week™. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Yes I'm happy for this, but I'll be happier when a new version on Lightning comes out.
- jonnyblue, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4This is great!
But I can't start it (OSX). It says "A copy of Thunderbird is already open." even though I have no other copy. Any idea? - jonnyblue, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Thanks Matt, now it works.
- Gigadafud, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2http://www.flickr.com/photos/51691462@N00/sets/72157594418252227/
- BufordT, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Spamato. If you have lots of spam, this is the extension for you. It is not perfect by any means, but it eliminates about 95% of my spam.
- VeganG, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Is it any faster yet? There's no reason for a simple email with a few lines of text to take 30 seconds to display after clicking on it.
- terrya64, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'll get dugg down for this but here it goes. I have used Thunderbird since the beginning but recently ditched it for the Vista version of Windows Mail. The mail reason I swapped was that Thunderbird was very slow to respond to input. Windows Mail so far works great and is very fast, Does everything I need.
- fishbert, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1115+ thumbs-ups for a cut-n-paste job? wow.
- claar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Good call -- the only way I see to use tags is to use a saved search (cumbersome) or show the "tags" column and sort by that (but it doesn't sort right if you have multiple tags on 1 message). You can't type a tag in the search/filter box, either. Hmm..
- sciencebase, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Doesn't work with my favourite add-on for rss, Forumzilla, unfortunately. Will have to wait. But, I agree the theme is much slicker especially with a Zune-modified XP desktop.
- shakin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yeah me too. I really dislike Evolution.
It would be great if the Exchange Connector for Evolution (or a new program) could be developed to provide an API to Exchange that all mail clients could use. - claar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It's not an isolated case. On all 3 computers I've installed the Thunderbird beta on it does that (sticks at 100% cpu usage) daily or more. We use imaps (imap ssl) here, which may make a difference. I haven't searched the Thunderbird bug list yet to see if this is a known issue; guess I should..
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