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Mozilla - Lightning (Calendar) RELEASED!!!!

mozilla.org — The Lightning Project is a redesign of the Calendar component. Its goal is to tightly integrate calendar functionality (scheduling, tasks, etc.) into Mozilla Thunderbird.

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  • sahaskatta, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9so is this replacing SunBird or is it just a new name?
    • geminitojanus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+31Neither. Sunbird is the standalone component of Mozilla's Calendar project (like Thunderbird or Firefox). Lightning is the name of the pluggable version that will be part of the Mozilla Suite (and thusly will integrate into Thunderbird, Firefox, Seamonkey and Sunbird).

      Calendar is written in XUL as well, so it should integrate well into other XUL applications (such as Democracy for controlling more scheduled downloads, etc), but right now it ties into a lot of other Mozilla applications, so it might not be so ideal yet.
    • jj44, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18There are 3 calendar apps for mozilla:
      1) Sunbird - stand-alone
      2) Calendar - extension for Firefox, Thunderbird, Seamonkey that is basically Sunbird added on to the application
      3) Lightning - which will eventually integrate with Thunderbird to create an Outlook-like application although most of these features aren't yet enabled.
    • leachim_6, on 10/12/2007, -6/+4Well if it is replacing sunbird ...lightning is a cooler name
    • joeyjojo, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13Why are they working on 3 separate calendar apps? Seems inefficient.
    • liava, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4It seems inefficient only because you assume the Mozilla developers don't know what they are doing. :-p

      Hint: three different applications that do the same thing don't need to have different code bases.
  • GeekyGirl, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11Keep in mind that this is an early version. Great for people who want to try it out or test it; however, do not convert your real data yet! There are a number of known issues that result in data loss and other buggy features. For now, play around with it and submit your bugs back to the community.
  • ek3s, on 10/12/2007, -44/+3its a calender... -.-'
  • mark1372, on 10/12/2007, -11/+61Public Service Announcement: the use of caps and multiple exclamation marks greatly decreases the quality and readability of Digg, and makes your submission look childish or spammy.

    Now back to your regularly scheduled discussion forum.
    • djdole, on 10/12/2007, -6/+14Digg points for mark1372.

      After reading the submitter's post, my immediate thought was. "OH MY GOODNESS!!!!!!"
    • danielryan, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2sadly those caps and !'s tend to get stories on the front page faster.
    • liava, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1They also make it about 10x more likely that I mark the story lame. Hopefully, I'm not alone in this endeavor.
  • dogas, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3It would be totally sweet if it can recognize exchange meeting emails. I run linux and thunderbird at work and frequently miss meetings because of that!
  • missinghref, on 10/12/2007, -6/+6VERSION 0.1
    • frontpage, on 10/12/2007, -8/+19I think you mean VERSION 0.1!!!!!
    • Opiate, on 10/12/2007, -9/+9LOL ZOMG!!!! It's not real news unless it has 3 exclamations minimum. It's how you sort out the real diggs from the wannabees.
    • Opiate, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3In all seriousness, I've been "whining" about the all caps and exclamations for a while. It really shows the immaturity of the poster. For us "oldschoolers" it's lame and well a little too AOL for me. I realise that digg is mob rules, but lets try to be a little bit pro. You can be pro and not give in to the "man".
  • nfiedel, on 10/12/2007, -15/+6Really, really lame. This has been around for a long time - probably at least 6 months. The version is 0.1! This is hardly a "release" but rather an early work in progress that is nowhere near ready for prime time. I've also tried it and it's hardly more worth using than something like 30boxes.
  • detrate, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1here are some older screenshots, anyone have newer ones? http://diary.e-gandalf.net/?p=35
  • UnlivedPhalanx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6This will be great once it is finished up, version 0.1 is hardly a release of any sort.
    • galfridus73, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Actually, I would say that it is... Calendar was an extension that basically just ran Sunbird in TB and Firefox (and SeaMonkey, for those of you still holding onto the old suite). Lightning actually takes the Calendar project and integrates it into TB as opposed to it launching another app.

      Keep in mind, this is supposed to be a tech news site first-and-foremost, and testing doesn't happen if people don't know the projects are out there to test. So, yes, a 0.1 release is VITAL to be announced in a community like Digg.
  • counihan3, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Its about time, but why not just make it part of thunderbird. I guess this leaves options for people which it the whole point of open source. But really how much longer till we people that still use pdas will be able to sync them with thunderbird, even with all the wikis mine and several others still won't sync.
    • tempusrob, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The whole point of Lightning is to resolve those things.
  • airedale, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Would have been nice in the description for it to say this is release *0.1*... but then again - it may have not been dugg if that had been that case.
  • elook, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2Super-duper! Just what I need a version 0.1 that will lose data now and then. Digg! Sux.
  • Fallout75, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1It doesn't install in Firefox 1.5.0.1
    Maybe I have to have Thunderbird.?
    • SmeRndmGy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5It is a thunderbird extension, for thunderbird, so having thunderbird might help. Right now it is just a basic calendar and agenda/to do list integrated into thunderbird. No real integration with the email part, its just there in the same app. Still, it looks good so far and will probably only get better.
  • chortik, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1call me vain, but i need to see screenshots before i bother downloading something.
  • socket, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7I'll wait for Google's CL2. Peace.
  • lane.montgomery, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3Wake me up when I can sync with my iPod.
    • phoque, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Export your calendar as an iCalendar file and copy it to you iPod:/Calendar/ directory. Haven't tried it yet but it should work.
  • Klowner, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7This is cool, but I'm even more impressed by what the people are doing with Chandler
    http://chandler.osafoundation.org
    • fillup07, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I had not seen that yet, but I am a lot more impressed with that, just from seeing the screenshots.
    • apotropaic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Its been a while since I checked out chandler. I looks like its coming along very well!
    • Remadot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Chandler handles events, either tasks, emails, or appointments as standalone events allowing information to be structured and unstructured at the same time.
      I am yet to see such an approach in any other PIM. Chandler rules.
    • MOGua, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Last time I ran Chandler, it took up about 80megs of memory...but that was version 0.60.

      The latest version is 0.61.
  • foxter, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2This looks very promising and I will definitely use it in the future, but submitting version 0.1 is lame.
    • vigilanteweb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Agreed. I'm very interested when it gets to be a stable release. For now I'm holding off installing to make sure it doesn't eat my data. But when it comes out... I think bloated Office will be in trouble.
    • ucg1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It's better than not being able to read calendar invites at all.
  • pardusman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6This' cool.. let me try ;-)

    If you want to see scrrenshot here is; http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/7948/thunderbird0uj.png
  • Philoushka, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Money quote from the article:

    There are KNOWN DATALOSS BUGS in the calendaring code.
    * Don't trust these builds with important calendaring or mail data
    • sifelltneytandi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Do you have eyes? This has been posted a thousand times already.
  • gronne, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Just installed it. Looks pretty good for the first beta release.
  • KevinSmokesPole, on 10/12/2007, -17/+2OMFG A CALENDAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I JUST CAME IN MY PANTS OVER A CALENDAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I DONT KNOW WHY BECAUSE I DON'T GIVE A RATS ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!EXCLAMATION POINTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111ONEONEONEONE
  • mvprj84, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2Wasn't this out months ago?
  • djdole, on 10/12/2007, -8/+1Get CNN on the phone... and get Dan Rather back!
    Who would have thought an open source software project would RELEASE a VERSION!

    OMFG LOLOFLMAO BRBGTT4G0SCRATCHMYASS
    ALHSALDKHG:LSDKHGLSKDJG!!!!!!
    !!!!!
    !!...!
  • galfridus73, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I just installed it on my Thunderbird install (and that's just for testing purposes)... but it looks good. Definitely head-and-shoulders past the Calendar extension for TB.
  • mrm52, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This thing has so much potential but it is a long long way from usable.

    I cant wait! I never want to have to use outlook again and that day is coming close and closer.
    • joeyjojo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7"This thing has so much potential but it is a long long way from usable. "

      Heh. Well, so is Outlook. ;o)
  • punkguitarist, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3Mozilla - Lightning (Calendar) RELEASED!!!! - I think the 'RELEASED!!!' is a little unnecessary.
  • GhostFreeman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Are there plans to add 30 Boxes support to Lightning?
    • CarzorStelatis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0That would require effort on 30boxes' part - currently NO desktop app can 'sync' with 30boxes no matter how much the developers want it to, due to the way 30boxes is designed
  • felchdonkey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Glad to get an update on the calendar I've been waiting for. We need a real replacement for Outlook Exchange Server & clients here, and once the CalDAV support and device sync is working, we'll be able to go to a complete Mozilla solution.

    Firefox + Thunderbird + Lightning = no more need for MS groupware!
    • vurdalak, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0CalDAV didn't work properly in the Sunbird 0.3 (we use Cosmo Server)
      I guess it doesn't work in the Lightning yet :(
  • joshpape, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I'm still waiting for an online contact management (address book) system. I cant find one anywhere online that isnt attached to an online emial system. Does anyone know of one? Google is letting me down here as my searches bring nothing up.
    • djdole, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Plaxo (http://www.plaxo.com/) is the only one I can think of.
      It's not connected (directly) to any email system like yahoo's, google's, or hotmail's contact system, but they do partner with AOL's Aim, but that's optional.
      In addition, you can request your contact info be updated by the particular person.
      The trial is free, but they still want you to pay for extras (read: not worth it).

      ...I don't use it anymore, but tried it out for a while and the concept is sound. :-/
  • djdole, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5God help us if the submitter ever discovers SourceForge...
    He'll cause a one person digg-effect on Digg itself by submitting a !!!! story for every new VERSION out there.
  • wilf_brim, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1This is interesting, but hardly front page on Digg worthy. If this was RC1 or even Version 1.0, then maybe. This is an alpha build and (as noted above) a version 0.1 build. And by admission had "known data loss" issues. I can't believe that anybody would use this for something like calendaring (where data loss is unacceptable). A version 0.1 calendar is the equivalent of buying refurbished disount bungees for bungee jumping (as opposed to just discount bungees).

    Give me a wake up at RC1, and I'll give it a look.
    • Luuvitonen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I remember 0.2 of Phoenix (before it was called FireBird and before that was called FireFox) being quite good already. While the version number is small it might be worth trying out. Though data loss is unacceptable and that might change things a lot.
  • billyboobs34, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3You know what they [mozilla] need to fix which has been pissing me off for a LONG time now about Mozilla Firefox...

    The bug in which you sometimes lose functionality of arrows, copying and pasting, and when you press ' the find bar pops up. This bug has been in every version since at least 1.0.7

    grrr... ok I'm done ranting
  • nnonix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2This will put Thunderbird in direct competition with Evolution. This is good and considering it may get the Evolution folks off their ass, very-good.
    • mrtrick, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I wouldn't say that it's direct competition until it has an Exchange connector.
  • ThePhilomath, on 10/12/2007, -9/+4OMG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    There, now i've reached the digg exclamation point quota for the day.
  • FarcicalFart, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I use Evolution in Linux over thunderbird because of the lack of Calendar extension. (That doesn't mean I use Epiphany) However, this may move me over to thunderbird.
  • osbjmg, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Cool, but less exclaimation points next time.
  • aforonda, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2y use anything but a web app like yahoo cal or something? I just don't want more stuff on my hard drive.
    • thegeekpea, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I agree... Y! Calendar works fine for me. When you use multiple computers, having it on the web is a must.
    • cass1010, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I really like spongecell.com. Slick interface with good natural language entry and the ability to manage it via SMS messages.
  • grapfx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1bout time
  • silenceHR, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1i installed it in my Thunderbird and i am testing it, but it looks pretty good, much better then last Sunbird i tried. Maybe it is 0.1 release, but thnx to person who posted it. I just reorganized my Thunderbird completlly after installing Lightning and now its much more useful to me then before.
    I really needed something like this.

    As for why not using web service... simple, i start Thunderbird and check my mail and its pretty nice to have something like this sitting inside, if i am to use any web service, then i have to start my browser, go to it's page, login and so on. As for HDD space, c'mon, this is 0.5MB. Not like it's gonna eat my HDD. If i can install games that take 3,4 or more GB, then i can spare 0.5MB for something much more useful.
  • damonj, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1when thunderbird, and sunbird (or lightning) can sync with a pda, then i'll be interested.
  • whowantthefunk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2They need to give it a better name...don't get me wrong Lightning is cool. But we have firefox and thunderbird. So we have an elemental "thing" -> fire, thunder followed by an animal type -> fox, bird....lightning is cool for the first part (especially since it plugs into thunderbird, so thunder and lightning) but then the second part should tie in with bird...So something that you always associate with a bird...I was thinking Hawk...it's a kind of bird, but think about it...ThunderBird w/ LightningHawk extension.
  • doggdigg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I have been using tbird and sunbird for over a year. I installed it on my WinXP system and I couldn't get past the addition of a remote or local calendar. It would just hang and not proceed. When I canceled out of this, tbird would crash every time I started it. I had to manually remove the extension to get rid of it...
  • MiamiGuy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Ahh so many calendars to choose from. I have calendar installed in my FireFox and ThunderBird and Sunbird installed separately. I tried an earlier release of lightning for Thunderbird and didn't like it much.
  • kstagg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I'll load it up at home, but not ready to give up Outlook here at the office. If this is an 'alpha' - anybody have an idea when the 'beta' - or dare I say - production release is due?
  • CarzorStelatis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Fantastic - all they need to do is integrate device sync (come on guys, someone already did it www.finchsync.com) and Outlook is dead.
  • DonWilson, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2LMFAOOMG ITS AWESOME NO LINK TO DOWNLOAD BUT ITS KEWL BEANS BECAUSE ITS BY MOZILLA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    • phoque, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0You might try replacing the "http" in the URL by "ftp" since the servers hostname is ftp.mozilla.org... Ever thought of that?
  • CanuckMakem, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Its nice... but until it syncs with my Crackberry I'm stuck with Outlook. :(
  • atomicsmith, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0Thunderbird and lightning
    very, very frightening
    galileo,galileo
    let me go.
  • jeffreym, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Very nice calendar but how do you create, delete or sort the Todo list?
    Is there any documentation for this app?







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