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more like the return of the king

For me at least, MT never lost his crown.

it's kind of an implicit admission that their decision to charge a licensing fee for their application was a mistake, isn't it?

someone call James A C Joyce
http://www.kuro5hin.org/print/2004/2/2/171117/8823

Hopefully the new king will be more digg-resistant, because whenever a wordpress page is dugg, it is usually down after a few hundred diggs.

By reading what's there, despite the open source release they plan to continue to charge for the application (read "how much will it cost to upgrade to MT4?"). WP will forever remain king so long as MT even attempts to charge for their software. MT could add 1000+ new features and I don't think it'd make a bit of difference, particularly while they continue to charge for their software. WP has such a strong following I'm not sure MT has a shot at this point anyhow.

Ah well... don't use either anyhow. :P

Many of you clearly have never looked into MT. The personal license for MT has been free for at least the last 8 months (and frankly for as long as I can remember, and I've been designing MT sites for ages), see here: http://www.movabletype.com/pricing.html

They charge for businesses and for support, and the cost for that is pretty minimal for what it does.

I recall initially before trying to figure out what I was going to use. I knew that MT was the cream of the crop but had wondered what had happened to them. Good to know they're back. I'm going to try and use it on a few of my sites.

They lost the lead to Wordpress exactly because they were NOT open-source. They're doing a mea-culpa and going back to a community-friendly model. The question is: will it blen... I mean, will it work?

moveable type can't and won't take over wordpress, both are good, but one is vastly better.

Personally, I miss the days of Greymatter.

I'm surprised at the WordPress following here. If you've ever had to delve into the codebase, I don't think any of you would be so chipper about it.

Textpattern is a well-written, stable blog platform that can withstand a Digg swarm. On the other hand, I'm looking forward to trying out MT and curious to see how well it works.

MT is releasing it as open source because there's no money in the consumer market. So why spend all your energy building a product that will make less than Typepad and Vox? instead they are making the smart move of selling enterprise services.

And Serendipity continues to get no love.

http://s9y.org

Haven't seen a Perl offering in a while for this breed of apps. Probably cleaner than slashcode too. ;)

Here's a useful review of what's in this release: http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/movable_type_40.php

Speaking from a hosting standpoint, I can't stand supporting MT. It's a resource hog. I really hope the new version addresses that, but if the past is any indication it'll probably just be worse (more features = bloat).

I just set this up on my test site to see what its all about. http://cooleric.com

the source doesn't look that free to me:

http://www.movabletype.org/license_beta.html

Any comments about the Plone blog?

I dumped MT for Wordpress and never looked back. MT is a mess. You can open source that code all you want, that does not make it any more useful or any less spaghetti. It's a horrible Perl/PHP hybrid that's bloated, slow, and hopelessly outdated. The publishing process is painful with rebuilding pages and becomes more and more painful as your blog grows. The dynamic rebuild process is incompatible with countless plugins. The plugin interface itself is deeply flawed in that most plugins require modifications to shared libraries and/or MovableType core files. To top it all off it's a spam magnet.

I really hate to slam on MT so bad be really, they deserved to have the carpet pulled out from under them by Wordpress.

"is there finally a new king of the blogging hill?"

No.

anyone who has a clue Knows That Movable Type is KING of blog software.

not only is it fast and efficient, its secure and very easy to use. and you dont have to be a PHP wiz to mod the hell out of it.

wordpress is overrated, and I hate their templating system.

MT is horrible, WP is by far better.

I would note that since the 4.0 product will be GPL, it will be available for free not only for personal use, but lots more. Commercial use, government use, educational institutions, all will be allowed so long as you follow the GPL.

I'll stick with b2evolution, open source and supports as many blogs as you like

I'm a longtime MT user, and other than comment/trackback spam, the only complaint I've had is the slow rebuild times.

Sooooo sloooowwww. Please don't make me rebuild everything. PLEASE. :(

The first time you make a change to a template in WP and see it instantly switch... ah man you wish it
could be like that in MT.

WP has a dedicated community of thousands of developers who contribute plugins and blog templates free of charge. There is no feature that can be imagined but can not be added to WP with the help of those addons. This, and WP is in constant development (look at the recent updates hitting Digg front page) and is making major leaps with every new release.

MT, I am afraid, is going to have a REAL hard time catching up to WP.

I was able to give birth to a blog in less than 15 minutes with this opensource.
http://www.makstak.com/yo/

need to set up nice image galleries with MT4 now.

Looks cool, but it would take even more to get me to take the effort of making the switch from WordPress.

Would you like to discover what's new with thie Movable Type v4.0 release?

There is a full featured Movable Type Athena project online demo that you can go and check out anytime

http://www.movabletype4.org/

Enjoy a wonderful plublishing platform taking shape!