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- ToastPop, on 04/17/2009, -1/+23That would be funny if the site was actually down.
- firefox15, on 10/10/2007, -3/+22Wordpress just has more backing IMO. The vast amount of themes and extensions outweigh what MT can offer.
- BluKnight, on 10/10/2007, -3/+14Good comparisons and readability. Definitely worth a look.
- bakkouz, on 10/10/2007, -3/+13Ok people. stop saying that Wordpress goes down after being dugg, this is not Wordpress's fault, its the server that hosts the website that has to do with it, not Wordpress!
- grammarpolice, on 10/10/2007, -3/+10Dude, most wordpress sites go down because of cheap hosting. When setting up the installation it asks for the database server info, and most cheap hosting providers gather all of its customer's databases onto one server. To not let every customer's site go down when one site goes very popular, they cut off that persons access to more hosting. There are many sites that use wordpress, and when they hit the front page they don't go down because they have awesome hosting plans and processing power.
- toxicityj, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8its like Opera v. FireFox. Opera is just as good, if not better in some areas, than Firefox as far as browsing experience goes. It's just that firefox has the massive community and endless supply of skins and plugins. Same goes for this MT4 v. WP2 thing. they're both great (better than the other in their own way), but in the end WP2 has the community and skins/plugins.
- thorbergdt, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Content Management System... obviously you probably don't need either WP or MT
- Sarawanan, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7Yeah, I've had my wp powered sites hit frontpage during peak times. No damage ever done, it's just a matter of hosting or lack thereof.
- Sartori, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5One thing not mentioned is that Wordpress only works with MySQL, while Movabletype runs on multiple backends including PostgreSQL a file-based database. I literally can't use WP on my webhost, so I use MT. I'm surprised that the comparison didn't include this.
- prammy, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6Drupal and Joomla to name two.
There is a huge list of open source cms at http://www.opensourcecms.com - chuckstep, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6Drupal
- Icebox3, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3It has nothing to do with WordPress - it's the crappy server it's running on, that can't handle a large influx of traffic.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3MovableType only went Open Source because they noticed how WordPress was growing and expanding so much. MT was in the toilet, they had no choice but to go open source or die out.
Lots of sites that gets dugg, goe down, its not just WordPress, $7-10 dollar hosting only goes so far - championchap, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3From what I heard it was the other way around?
I thought Drupal was more powerful, but a little difficult to set up compared to wordpress.
I've never actually used Drupal though, so could somebody perhaps enlighten me? - lava, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2it seems MT really wants to gain market share now. Anil Dash, VP of Six Apart, even commented on a post where I say I'm switching to wordpress. He was asking why I didn't go with MT. It was surprising, since no one gives a ***** about my blog. You can read his comment here... http://www.herecomesthescience.com/general/switching-to-wordpress/
- plasticmind, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Am I the only one who thinks this article is lame for using screen shots from MT3 to talk about MT4?
- mpn401, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2* >>>>>>>>>> Wordpress
- zushiba, on 10/10/2007, -3/+5WORDPRESS ERROR
- danlovejoy, on 10/10/2007, -3/+5We jumped from MT several years ago when we discovered it was going to cost us $1,500 all of a sudden to upgrade. We needed a multi-blog platform, so we went with ExpressionEngine, which cost us $149 at the time. I think that upgrade (3.0?) was a huge market loss for MT.
- darkhero, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Mashables runs on wordpress and has been for a while. Why don't they run on Moveabletype and try it out for a while. I have used both, if you don't want too many features and a reliable blog get Moveabletype. If you have a small blog and want many features get wordpress.
http://mashable.com/wp-login.php - thailand1972, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Why the hell is this a plugin? Isn't it critical to cache category lists etc that hardly ever change? Cacheing isn't a feature you can plugin, it should be a neccesity.
- dualaudi, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Someone should of told DRUPAL to up their server power before people started giving them props... http://www.drupal.org and http://www.drupal.com seem to be down! I wanted to try them too...
- Icebox3, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2To think a site goes down because of WordPress is incredibly dumb. There are millions of people using WordPress - if, for some bizarre reason, a site could go down because of that software, don't you think the creators of WordPress would've fixed it? Please, think before you type.
- titlesaysitall, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3I despise Expression Engine with every bone in my body, at least from my experience with it. Compared to Wordpress, the later just beats it dead with a club and then hauls the carcass off a cliff into the ocean. The interface is ugly, limited and does not friggin auto save. I love Wordpress on my Blog but my boss has stuck with EE and has designed custom themes around it so switching is out of the question.
- VeniceCA, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Mess or not Wordpress runs well for the average user and is also engining some fairly big sites. I've been very happy with it.
- prammy, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4I see a lot of wordpress blogs linked to digg which do _not_ go down.
A big part of the problem is that the database servers on these shared hosts cannot handle the load. Which is easily fixed by adding the wp_cache plugin so each request does not have to spawn all those queries. - Atomic1fire, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Wordpress is not a cms
its a blogging software
phpnuke or e107 is a cms
you dont see forum modules for wordpress or movable type now do you - thatsiebguy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Actually, its the person running the WP page and the fact they don't use WP_Cache.
- sint4x, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2We all know you could certainly run MT on a 133 Mhz machine and it could handle digg no problem!
- mr804, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2We ran MT until they decided to charge a crapload of money for something that was free before to us. Then we ditched it and started running Wordpress. MT's comment system was slow as donkey balls when you had a huge spam filter back in the day. I hope that's improved.
- gamma911, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Problem with Joomla is it gets really slow unless you have a dedi
- eczarny, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2I find that most web applications written in PHP have "clunky" code. I haven't seen an open source PHP web application written well. However, if you give some time to look at the MT source you will find that it is VERY well designed and thought out.
I do agree though, recompiling entries all the time is a bit cumbersome. - jamesey, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2b2evolution is better than both
- MoneyShot, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2My WordPress blog once made the front page of Slashdot and had zero problems weathering the storm. I credit the WP_Cache plugin I use for that. I also admin the server the blog runs on and was carefully watching stats.
- timdorr, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2So, you're saying Wordpress is better because you have to modify the source code to get it to work the way you want? o_O?
- sint4x, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I think the benefit here is that its is easier to make your own plug-ins if you are familiar with the platform it uses.
- svenjick, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1The best interface (i.e. usability) and mental model is proposed by Spip, IMHO. (now "is it a CMS" is another question which can be discussed...)
- kru1e, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1anyone else notice the site is running wordpress, bias much?
- darkfate, on 10/10/2007, -4/+5I give a plus to wordpress for using php. CGI is the biggest pain because with most hosts, they have to be in a specified folder (which can be changed via htaccess, but it gets sticky) and you have to make sure you have certain modules.
Although I've looked at some core code in WordPress and I think there are a couple ways to change things, but MT seems more clunky with the recompiling all the time. - eczarny, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Every time a user hits a Wordpress page, PHP is invoked and the database is hit. Every time a user hits a compiled MT page, it's just a static fetch.
- SavageBlackCat, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Ability to survive more than 2 hits per hour: anything other than wordpress.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -11/+12Personally, I use drupal because it looks cleaner and it is a bit easier to use. Although wordpress is more powerful, i prefer drupal.
- Nightfall, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Who cares what you use? Both MT and Wordpress are great bloggers. I use Wordpress and it works great for me, but MT has its advantages as well. Not that you see me kicking myself over the decision I made and others shouldn't do the same.
If a site is going down that fast by the way, the webhost has more to do with that than Wordpress or MT for that matter. A lot of these shared hosted sites can't take a digg effect. :) - plasticmind, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1The unsupported version of MT4 is free; if you couple that with MT's RightFields plugin, you can create your own CMS.
- ishkur88, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1what do people have against coding their own software? if you want a job done right, its usually a decent idea to go ahead and write your own scripts. you know exactly what it's doing, and you know what it's capable of. don't knock it 'til you try it. =
- Sarawanan, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Content Management System
- dualaudi, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1definitely not trying joomla now... site is down... http://www.johninjapan.com/blog/
- limezor2, on 10/10/2007, -14/+15Down after 25 Diggs? Must be using Wordpress.
- OrangeTide, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Just use ScriptAlias in your vhost and you can even keep the cgi binaries out of your html trees, also you can do the path trick if you ScriptAlias directly to the executable instead of to the path the executable is in. Keeping php files in the html trees is one of the inherent security flaws of php. (the other being running php as a userid that has write access to your *.php files)
PHP is tough to debug and maintain compared to other solutions. I think past a certain point it's extra work to use php. The advantage is you can run your own php junk on someone else's server without having to tweak server configs. assuming they already have mod_php and mysql installed, which I do not use on my servers. - firefusion, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Textpattern and Modx. I prefer Textpattern
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