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- inactive, on 02/03/2009, -182/+1579Repeating a comment I saw on Engadget "So it's okay to have 10,000 distros of Linux, one locked-down version of OSX, and the complaints come when M$ has 6 versions?"
- biggy83, on 02/03/2009, -71/+852Jesus you guys! Get a grip of yourselves!
The average consumer will always face two versions to buy: the Home Premium and Professional.
Starter & Home Basic -not sold in US, come with the machine. Enterprise & Ultimate are for businesses or high-end market, meaning that you'll not see any of those four sold on your local stores' shelves anytime soon.
What's there to confuse you, for *****'s sake?! - LMN8R, on 02/03/2009, -31/+345So basically, the SKUs are identical to Vista, except for this time around even Home Basic won't be marketed, only used for emerging markets.
Starter and Home Basic - not on store shelves, only for emerging markets.
"The company also says focus will be on two primary editions of Windows 7: Windows 7 Home Premium and Windows 7 Professional."
Enterprise will obviously not be marketed to consumers. Doesn't even seem like Ultimate will be this time around.
So.....what's the problem again? - untitlednet, on 02/03/2009, -16/+293At least Gizmodo got it right:
"Consumers are really only picking between Home Premium and Professional."
http://i.gizmodo.com/5145366/all-the-flavors-of-wi ... - LMN8R, on 02/03/2009, -12/+248The "average consumer" won't have choice, seeing as Home Premium will be the only version marketed to them.
- aspekt9, on 02/03/2009, -62/+29099% of those 10,000 distros are free. You don't have to pay an extra $200 just to get full functionality out of them...
- bsmang, on 02/03/2009, -24/+224ARE.
- UpperUpsilon, on 02/03/2009, -11/+165...because 7 was black.
- YodaOfDarkness, on 02/03/2009, -10/+162because 7 8 9!
- onClipEvent, on 02/03/2009, -99/+250Linux: for real computer tweakers, they know what they want anyway.
OSX: Steve Jobs + control, one version.
Windows: meant for the rest of the +80% in the world, from my 60 yo mom to hardcore gamers....so why make things difficult with 6 versions? i can see why some people jump ship to Apple.
MS should realize that the *average consumer* don't necessarily want choice, they want confidence and certainty. - ATL, on 06/20/2009, -14/+161Windows 7 Ultimate.
I know which one will be the most popular on the torrent sites... - z00k, on 02/03/2009, -12/+158Why was 6 afraid of 7...
- hokie47, on 02/03/2009, -83/+223What is wrong with 6 editions? There are like 100 different linux distro customized for different uses. ***** there are 31 different "editions" at Baskin-Robbins and you guys have not problem there. Are you telling me you are not bright enough to read a paragraph and pick one edition from the six? Oh I forgot it is Microsoft, and we all hate Microsoft.
- theragu40, on 02/03/2009, -11/+136Plus there are realistically only 3 choices for the consumer. Everyone gets all bent out of shape, but the only 3 choices anyone is ever going to hear about are Home Premium, Professional, and Ultimate. Enterprise is for business settings, and the other two are not going to be available in large markets. Everyone calm down.
- matthewf01, on 02/03/2009, -23/+143Actually this engadget article is making a big deal out of something that isn't a big deal at all.
The Home Basic and Starter aren't even going to be available for a good lot of us (and them!) so scratch those.
Business/Enterprise are obvious.
So two, maybe three choices. Josh Topovsky is full of ***** here. I'd rather Digg an article about the Win7 editions from a site that isn't COMPLAINING about them. - johnbobshaun, on 02/03/2009, -14/+122Server. Desktop. 32 bit. 64 bit. Kubuntu. Xubuntu. Edubuntu. Gobuntu. Ubuntu Studio.
So, yeah. Bad example. - piratesarefun, on 02/03/2009, -8/+101because 7 abused 6 as a child
- inactive, on 02/03/2009, -26/+115Man, this pisses me off almost as much as when Honda introduced the Accord EX, LX, DX, and then had the nerve to offer "options" on those base models. When they introduced the choice of either 2 or 4 doors, I had finally had enough, and started riding my bike to work every day!
I mean, who do these ***** think they are anyway?
Oh wait, I actually don't really give a ***** about that, or this, because unlike most of the digg user base I'm not a ***** Applebot programmed to repeat anything negative I hear about Microsoft. - jordn, on 02/03/2009, -2/+91It does confirm multiple editions, but only 3 of those editions will be available to consumers. Those are Home Premium, Professional and Ultimate. The Starter and Enterprise editions will be exlucively available to developing economies and larger scale corperate companies respectively.
- Jektal, on 02/03/2009, -5/+79If you're going to steal something, why steal the crappy version?
- stacks14, on 02/03/2009, -10/+79http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/win7_skus.asp
"most consumers will simply have two choices when it comes to Windows 7: Home Premium and Pro. Just like with XP, when that OS first shipped"
read real sources, and think about what is said, and this will make sense. blindly reacting to engadget's FUD is silly. - perhapsimcrazy, on 02/03/2009, -16/+80There is no problem, it isn't Linux or Apple, so it sucks.
Seriously, when the hell is variety a bad thing? - skram, on 02/03/2009, -63/+127Better than 260 Distros of Linux.
- AdmiralAcbar, on 02/03/2009, -2/+63Don't know why you're being buried... "There is 6" is incorrect. It should be there ARE 6.
- MMaster23, on 02/03/2009, -21/+81You'll really only see 2 version in the market that really matter:
Home Premium has everything the average consumer needs
Professional .. all that a business user needs
You won't see Enterprise unless you need to. Ultimate is resevered for high end machines, you won't see it on that 499$ notebook on sale in Wallmart/Best Buy/whatever.
Home Basic and Starter are limited to developing countries .. don't worry about those.
So it's easy .. there are only 2 versions .. just like your favorite 8 year old OS. Now go bash something else... - ATL, on 06/20/2009, -2/+61because 7 stuck it in 6's hole, then moved onto 8 because 8 would let 7 use both...
- jerrycan, on 02/03/2009, -34/+91Linux is a Kernel, not a company. A direct comparison would be the number of versions Ubuntu has and I think that is 2 (server and desktop?)....
And windows 7 starter should be free for download....come on MS you can do it! - inactive, on 02/03/2009, -11/+60Cannot be purchased:
Starter - For netbooks
Home Basic - For poor countries
Enterprise - 'Ultimate' equivalent of Vista but sold in bulk
Can be purchased:
Home Premium - 'Home Premium' equivalent of Vista, just an upgrade
Professional - Home Premium 7 + file encryption and a few other things
Ultimate - Single license of Enterprise 7, more difficult to find unless you know where to look (most likely NewEgg)
Average person only needs to worry about 2 or 3, thank god. - johnbobshaun, on 02/03/2009, -1/+48I don't think the average consumer will make a choice or even be aware of a choice. They will use whatever is installed on their PC when they buy it.
- jordn, on 02/03/2009, -12/+59That is irrelevant. The point i am trying to make is that each of the target markets that microsoft is targeting will only ever see a maximum of two editions:
Consumer A in developing economy goes to PC shop. --- Windows 7 Starter is available.
Consumer B in developed economy goes to PC shop. --- Windows 7 Home Premium and Professional are available.
Consumer C, the corperate businessmen or women visit the PC shop --- Windows 7 Enterprise is available.
Consumer D is a multimedia junkie/power user/extreme enthusiast and goes to the PC shop. --- Windows 7 Ultimate is the only edition in their eyes.
Sorry to break it down so much, but the anti-microsoft bury brigade is in full force, trolling around and not bothering to RTFA as usual. - seltaeb4, on 02/03/2009, -11/+57I heard there's going to be over 9,000.
- freezerburn666, on 02/03/2009, -10/+55just hope ultimate is as easy to pirate as vista ultimate was.
- DeadlyNinja, on 02/03/2009, -23/+68I was really hoping they would release a Windows Penultimate edition.
- davidwasman, on 02/03/2009, -6/+50because you touch yourself at night.
- bigfatphony19, on 02/03/2009, -20/+64OH NOOO apparently the human brain can't handle 2 ***** choices.
- bmcnally, on 02/03/2009, -16/+60When I go to the store, I don't get confused when I see Warcraft III, Warcraft III Expansion, Warcraft III bundled with expansion, and Warcraft III battlechest. In fact, I like the choices - it helps me decide exactly what I need (The Orange Box).
Why are people treating this like something incredibly different and difficult to parse? You've dealt with this in the gaming marketplace for the last 20 years (Starcraft, Age of Empires, Command and Conquer, Fallout, etc, etc, etc) - Wetzilla, on 02/03/2009, -3/+47Most consumers aren't even going to have ultimate available to them. So it's really only 2, premium and pro.
- jtwyrrpirate, on 02/03/2009, -2/+42ARR!
- inactive, on 02/03/2009, -4/+44No you are required to pay $3.00 for the plain single scoop in a cup, $5.00 for two scoops in a cup, $7.00 for 2 scoops in a cone, and $12.00 for a quart.
- SpiderTeets, on 02/03/2009, -2/+39because seven is odd?
- Hammerheart, on 02/03/2009, -15/+51Um... its not a problem because none of the Linux distros are artificially crippled. Every one of them can be configured to do what all the other ones do if you really want to take the time to do it. You might be able to make the argument that this way you don't have to pay for what you don't use but to me it just creates a hassle when you try to support someone remotely but can't because they didn't spend extra $$ for me to be able to help them make Microsoft's crap continue to work for example. Yeah I can have them go grab VNC or something but its still more needless work than should have to be done.
- ricodued, on 02/03/2009, -4/+39I love you.
- joelmole, on 02/03/2009, -5/+40That's a bit different. The 6 versions of Windows 7 doesn't include Windows Server 2008. That's 6 desktop versions, compared to 1 OS X. I wouldn't count the iPhone, iPod touch, or Apple TV either. There are a gazillion products running Windows Mobile or Windows XP embedded, that's not exactly germane. You can't buy these OSes off the shelf.
- TWallaceWD, on 02/03/2009, -7/+41If OSX has everything, why are Mac people so excited about being able to run Windows on their Macs?
- copper7op, on 02/03/2009, -8/+42Just like Windows XP, there was Pro, Home, and Volume versions of each (they didnt take the same key), and then XP-N that didn't have the built in IE6 (thanks to antitrust lawsuits)
suck it up people. - gargantuan, on 02/03/2009, -2/+35I think the reason people are pissed off is that there's really only one version of windows, but they incrementally cripple it and give it a new name.
They imply that one version has had more work put into it than the other, but that's just not true. Well, actually I'm wrong, it takes effort to restrict an OS like windows to run 3 application concurrently, so in a bizarre twist of events, the version with more time and effort put into it, is the cheapest one. - zephc, on 02/03/2009, -6/+39BitLocker for Enterprise (volume purchase only) and Ultimate (limited availability). So again only the worthy deserve drive encryption? Thanks, Microsoft.
- LMN8R, on 02/03/2009, -8/+40What is wrong with having only 2 versions that are actually marketed to consumers, and having 3-4 other versions that are specifically targeted to emerging markets that you will never ever see on a store shelf or online store to purchase?
"The company also says focus will be on two primary editions of Windows 7: Windows 7 Home Premium and Windows 7 Professional. " - dreadlocks, on 02/03/2009, -3/+33Basic should be called "Secure Edition", once you fire up your Spyware Blocker, Antivirus and Firewall the user will be prevented from actually surfing the web.
- BionicAntboy, on 02/03/2009, -4/+34Don't know why people are digging you down. The original engadget article reported SEVEN editions (from an unsourced Geekzone NZ blog). Even after engadget readers posted the Winsupersite article to the comment section, they STILL have the number of versions at 6 instead of 5, and inaccurate details in some places.
You're 100% right.
Engadget has REALLY gone downhill since Block more or less moved on. -
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