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- qorsair, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14I think you are in fact missing something.
Your system is set to 9:53PM PDT, the time.gov site says it is 9:53PM CDT.
Believe it or not, your system is off by 2 hours. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11NO VISTA RC1 support?? Microsoft, please! Vista - the home of WinFX and the .net Framework 3.0 RC1! How can you let your installer check for XP, and tell me "Unsupported OS"??
I hope someone can fix this so it works on Vista RC1. - qorsair, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9@Rub3X
Let me try to simplify this for you:
Your timezone is set incorrectly on your computer!
Change it to Central and correct the time.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I'll leave you to wallow in your own ignorance. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -8/+14http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/3658/untitleddy2.png
Seriously am I missing something. - qorsair, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7@Rub3X
Wow... This may be an exercise in futility, but let me try explaining it to you:
In the time.gov window it says "You have chosen Central timezone"
On your system's Date & Time Properties it says "Current time zone: Pacific Daylight Time"
9:53PM Central and 9:53PM Pacific are not the same time.
9:53PM Pacific is 11:53PM Central.
Your clock is off by 2 hours.
edit:
@theone3
Yes, the 1 hour difference between the offsets listed by Microsoft & time.gov is due to daylight savings. - arudgick, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6yeah, feels light enough... but uses 60-100meg upon checking. i can spare the memory, but that's a ridiculous hit for this type of app
- raj3, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6http://aycu10.webshots.com/image/3049/2001652806787968734_rs.jpg
- theone3, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6He's right. PDT is GMT-8, CDT is GMT-5 according to the site you're on, but -6 according to Microsoft. Check the timezone tab.
edit: the 1hr diff may be due to daylight savings. - ditoa, on 10/12/2007, -0/+62.0 does not require 1.0 or 1.1 although it can conexist with them. 3.0 is more like 2.0 + some extra stuff, I think they screwed up the naming convention.
As for not wanting .NET, why not? Its a great platform. Why miss out on the excellent applications you could use that require .NET? - anamanaman, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Looks really good and works smooth. Only thing missing is some way to track (or unbold) items you've already read.
Still, great app to show the power of Windows Presentation Foundation. Dont even need vista... - webcrumb, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6"its taking 105 meg of memory"
That's not the app, it's the .NET framework. The majority of that memory use is cache which will be given up as soon as another app needs it (apparently). I seem to think it's also the same with Java (and probably any other CLR), which is one reason people think these things are inefficient. If anything, by using spare memory as cache it's *more* efficient... - IcyStorm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Installed easily, and the interface is nice. Very simple to use and slick. Not something I would use too much though (I'd rather use Picasa and IE7).
- Thermopyle, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6A lot of FUD here.
Max is just developed to show what you can do with WinFX/.NET 3.0
It's not meant to be a fully-fleshed out "OMG BEST APP EVAR LET ME PAY YOU BIG MONIES FOR IT" application.
.NET hate...stems from ignorance. From a developers standpoint, .NET is considered a godsend by most who actually use it instead of sitting around bashing MS. From a users standpoint...sure you have to d/l and install it, but so what? It's not like all of a sudden your computer runs slower, and as pointed out .NET apps that seem to "use" a lot of memory really don't. It's just the nature of the beast. Wouldn't you rather an app "appear" to use a lot of memory and work very snappily while at the same time allowing that memory to be used by other programs that need it? - Jugalator, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I don't understand... What does a feed reader have to do with a photo application?
- ditoa, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Downloaded and installed. Is ok but nothing amazing. Feed reader is weak and the photo options give nothing Picasa can't do better. Shame really I was hoping it would be much better. It is a very nice look application though.
- theone3, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5.NET 3.0 is basically .NET 2.0 with Avalon (fancy 3d stuff) built in and a few minor enhancements
- SimonDonkers, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Similarly why is it that Microsoft is the only company that can make a program that doesn't work with all OS languages. I run XP NL and any app from whatever company in whatever language runs fine with perhaps a 'click next to continue' where I need to click 'volgende'.
How come Microsoft can't get something as simple as that to work? - Amything, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6I agree Max feels really light and I was going to praise it in this comment, but just know I hit CTRL-ALT-Delete and I see its taking 105 meg of memory. All I have done so far is added a couple of Digg feeds.
- stephenwq, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3.Net framework 3.0 aye? I guess this is what vista will mainly be using? (Well, the programs made for it)
- j_bellone, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I am surprised we haven't seen any Apple-zealotry yet about how much better their operating system is...
- GerbilSoft, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"The error message says your time is incorrect, not your time zone."
Your computer's time is set to 9:53 PM PDT, which is 11:53 PM CDT. The time.gov website says it's 21:53 CDT (9:53 PM CDT). Change your time zone and your system time.
Hint: Windows internally stores the system time in GMT (Greenwich Mean Time), and uses the time zone setting to adjust what appears onscreen. - chris9902, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Vista has an RSS reader built into the sidebar, why would you need this aswell?
- aeowolf, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5It's a no go for me. Needs the folders to be NTFS, I'm still on FAT 32. Looks good though....
- digid, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4"Seriously am I missing something."
yah actually you are. set your timezone correctly - theone3, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Rub3x, How the is a computer supposed to know the difference? It doesn't know where you are, only what time you've set. You've said its 5 in location X, when it checks location X it says its 7 there. Therefore, you're wrong. It doesn't assume you've said X but meant Y.
- Francky, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6What is wrong with Microsoft ? XP x64 is from them, yet they release soft that don't even support it. How do they expect others to adopt it then ?! Same thing goes with Media player 11, no support for x64. Or that vmware clone they released a while back, AGAIN with no support for x64... Are they completely daft ?!
- Escamillo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I don't think Max is an actual "product". More of a showcase to showoff some WinFX features. I don't know what Microsoft's final intent for this app is.
A final release would run on Vista (as well as XP SP2 + .NET 3.0) and use the Common Feed for RSS. I speculate that it doesn't use the Common Feed right now because the Common Feed is only available on 1.) Vista and 1.) XP SP2 with IE7; that is, Common Feed is not available on XP systems that don't have IE7, which is the vast majority of systems today. They'll probably start using the Common Feed when IE7 is released. - Escamillo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Yeah, I know it's easy to make an RSS reader with .NET. MS already makes RSS Bandit (it started as an MSDN sample code project before MS put it on SourceForge).
But that has nothing to do with using the RSS Common Feed that Vista (and IE7 on XP) provide. The Common Feed api would make it even easier to make an RSS reader since you wouldn't even have to manage the feeds at all.
"If this is the only stuff MS can think of as for WinFX, it seems to be a hard API to market."
Yeah, but surely your not foolish enough to actually believe that "this is the only stuff MS can think of as for WinFX", are you?
"As for graphics management, Paint .NET uses .NET 2.0 and is an entire light-weight drawing suite; much more impressive than a photo manager."
Paint.NET has its place, Max has its place. Paint.NET uses GDI+ (via the .NET Drawing wrappers) for its graphics last I checked. It's not a showcase for WinFX. - JorgeGT, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3And no Spanish language Windows XP support. If you perform a little registry trick, it installs and runs smoothly. So why is it artificially restrained to English, German and Japanese, since the program runs well? I don't understand Microsoft's language policies :(
- theone3, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6@Ramble
Username = Apt.
Who the hell switches file system just to test beta software? - sorrow, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Well, you can't expect Microsoft to make a program without any flaws, even if they happen to be strange ones!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I really have a problem with the timezone thing. No matter what I do with the time or timezone in my computer, Max refuses to let me in (I'm GMT time). The good news is that the uninstall was much quicker then the install.
- raynevandunem, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3http://www.microsoft.com/max/
http://home.cogeco.ca/~rklauncher/
I agree with pixelperfect here. Someone's totally ripping on copyright here. - macewan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3More is expected of Microsoft because of their position in the industry.
- j_bellone, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Instead of spending time allocating chunks of memory down the road the runtime allocates a huge block of memory and divides it when in need.
- Ramble, on 10/12/2007, -5/+6Then use NTFS you pillock.
- GerbilSoft, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2"Ok morons my cell phone says the correct time as do ALL clocks in my house and car. I go to work on time daily there is nothing wrong with my time. In fact when I change it to central the time is different than time.gov it says 7am when time.gov says 5am. Mk thx"
Windows automatically adjusts the clock to the new timezone you selected. If your current timezone is PDT and the time is 5AM, changing your timezone to CDT will change the clock to 7AM. Thus, you have to change your timezone, *then* reset the clock to 5AM. It's not really that hard. - stephenwq, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1http://blogs.msdn.com/max/archive/2005/09/13/sharewithfriends.aspx
- theone3, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Not AFAIK. Get + burn the redistributable package. And if you don't have 2.0 installed, then you don't have XP SP2? If not, you're skating on thin ice security wise!
- Jugalator, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Not that it's hard to make a desktop feed reader using .NET Framework 2.0 and no WinFX libraries. :-p It has networking and XML parsing classes too... It's actually piss easy, as a big point of .NET was to make web-related services easier -- all since 1.0. If this is the only stuff MS can think of as for WinFX, it seems to be a hard API to market.
As for graphics management, Paint .NET uses .NET 2.0 and is an entire light-weight drawing suite; much more impressive than a photo manager. - theone3, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Vista doesnt have the image sharing capabilities of MSMax though. And its RSS reader is built into IE7, which is also downloadable for XP
- FrugalFreak, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Doesn't microsoft understand we want less ***** from them on our pc's? give me a base lightweight OS and that's it. I dont wan't no microcrap on my pc. will they ever learn? they are dead insistance on putting useless programs on desktops. This is the reason I am not buying vista, because they imbedded antispyware. I am perfectly capable of buying my own add-on software, thank you microsoft.
- djbutnot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1From the looks of the RK Launcher site, it is copying the Microsoft Max site. The Max site has been like that since its release (about a year ago). If you look at the RK Launcher site you see:
Unique visitors
since July 18 2006
Usually, these are when websites are updated. - djbutnot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I used to think the same way about .net, until I started coding it. It is a very nice toolkit.
And, lol at TimTim. You aren't going to be able to do that in Vista. Most of the stuff has been reprogrammed to .Net 3.0. And, I don't think it is that much of a security risk, considering how little I see a critical patch for .net, compared to the rest of the OS. - raynevandunem, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1http://home.cogeco.ca/~rklauncher/
Original URL was broken. - Archon810, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Will somebody finally shoot Rub3X and get us out of this misery?
- GerbilSoft, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"IP address can give you a broad enough location to know the time zone."
AOL IPs don't have any identification for determining the user's time zone, and judging by your intelligence, you most likely are using AOL.
Now will you just change the ***** time zone already? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1IP address can give you a broad enough location to know the time zone.
- KCorax, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2It is absolutely bigger than that. It includes:
- Infocard: Secure PIM framework kinda like what apple just did with todos and calendars in Leopard
- Indigo: Web Services oriented communications stack.
- Desktop search integration: the SQL backend may be gone but the system wide search is available as an elegant .net namespace
- Workflow foundation: An engine to build UI workflows, supports business rules, instances, processes etc.
This is a boatload, not just fancy graphics -
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