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- Latentk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Well put Piggins Kiro and somewhat Reb. Go to school, you get massive discounts, Im buying Studio 8 for only 280 which is incredibly cheap compared to the $999 price tag on Macromedia's website. If you give Macromedia a chance, it will all be worthwhile.
Oh, and STOP defending the act of stealing it. In this digg alone you can find numerous cases with people trying to turn the theft of Studio 8 into something positive. Stealing a $1000 computer program isnt something positive, not in the slightest. - igeo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Need a free account to log in and download.
- dude3609, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1sweet! This means, in a couple days, or probably not even that, a crack SHOULD be available. Stick in there =D
- Mudcrutch, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1bets on how long the cracked versions will be on bittorrent sites.. ?
- BFD8, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I had my laptop stolen and I can't find my original load CDs for Studio MX 2004, but I do still have my serial numbers. Anybody know where I could download Studio MX 2004. Adobe doesn't even bother replying to my several requests for help on this.
- Zivko, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1You don't need a crack, all you need is a volume licence serial number. Look for it hard enough and you'll find it.
- jruckman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0anyone else getting an I/O error when installing from the disk image?
- trek, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Meh. No new features that I really need...
Neither GoLive nor Dreamweaver (nor the eventual GoWeaver or DreamLive or whatever) really follows my web design workflow... nor of many designers I have met. Most have to conform to the way the program "thinks" instead of the other way around.
Some little company with designers at their core will get it right at some point. Until then might as well code by hand. - 6dust, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0>> I doubt macromedia is going "belly up."
Probably not since Macromedia = Adobe. - jruckman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0i tried copying the install file to my desktop too, but it says parts of the image cannot be read
- robsta, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0i've been waiting for this for tooo long.
- spyres, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Sure, one can get cheap "student edition" by going to school, but most of these have licenses which don't allow one to use them for any sort of paying gig.
So the minute you use your cheap shiny new tools to do paid work for someone, you're likely breaking the law. - Xertion, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Please stop drawing parallels between virtual and physical reality. If you can't tell the difference, your truly scare me.
Thanks. - kyrobeshay, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I doubt macromedia is going "belly up."
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Don't even use the excuse "because it's too expensive."
That gives you no right to steal. They offer academic prices-- good prices! And did it occur to you that if you and everyone else shelled out a little money for it, the price would be lower anyway!?
There is no explanation for theft, unless you are stealing to feed your damn family. Intellectual property is still property. Companies have to make money to hire people who buy other things with their compensation. Your theft, and lame justification, just hurts the entire system. Have some intelligence and look at the big picture. - jruckman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0(dreamweaver)
- scottbrown, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Dreamweaver? Hmm, doesn't sound anything like what I use... Notepad, Scite, nano, vi.
...it must be one of those gooey editors. - Misos, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Fireworks 8 isn't much a practical improvement (for me) over MX 2004. Oh well.
- igeo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Dreamweaver seems REALLY slow on my Mac and has crashed several times already.... anybody else?
- kyrobeshay, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@freddybeanbag
What improvements did dreamweaver have? - Xertion, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@derekknight
Like any of them would have bought it so they can do some stupid little flash thing on their personal website anyway. Macromedia is up to version 8 for a reason! They are making money! They make money from professionals not kids.
As far as programmers salaries going down and down, one word, GLOBALIZATION. - zwilliams, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Only thing worth its grain of salt in the Macromedia 8 suite is Flash 8 Pro in my opinion. The rest of it, I'll pass on.
- liquidice, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0today
- kyrobeshay, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Is the one on pirate bay for windows or mac?
- Kizzle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Here's an account I made
sdlfjsdlkfg@gmail.com
Password: digg - motionblur, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Homesite 5.5 > all
I can remember when Homesite was the defacto editor. I still use it religiously. - ebjcoat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0So the full version is not out yet?
- freddybeanbag, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0*BOUGHT* this today, and I like it. Good Dreamweaver improvements thus far, and I'm excited to get into some Contribute. Flash also looks good.
- Odo08, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Wow, take a drink, we got "off topic". Now can anyone compare GoLive with DreamWeaver 8? I own GoLive CS2 and DW 2004 MX and like them both for different reasons. One of the things I really like about GoLive is the pixel level control when moving objects in layout mode. Does DW 8 have anything similar?
- KevinJ, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Ill stop pirating software like this when they sell it for a price that is reasonable...like $50. If a game is 3gb and is $50 why does decent software thats 200mb have to be $500? Honestly, how is a amatuer STUDENT flash artist supposed to afford that?
- Piggins, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@CoolHandLuke
http://www.linux.org/dist/index.html - any one of those will fix your "inferior product"/"PATCH" problem. - Piggins, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@kiro
1. - I'm not your buddy.
2. - I agree with you on "crock-o-*****" and I am glad that you made my point for me - It "is both ignorant and immature" - in fact it is as ignorant and immature as the people in this comment thread that think stealing, or "cracking to try" the software is legit. Thank you for the help on that.
3. - "I just hate people who misquote me and then try and argue back with nothing." You agreed with Xertion in your comment which says Macromedia will make money off the professionals not kids - implying it's OK for the kids to steal the software. At least that is how I read it, if I misquoted you my apologies. - CoolHandLuke, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Salaries go down because the company loses money on the product and has to outsource to compensate, which forces programmers to take lower paying jobs or not work at all. So many "kids" think that because the price is so high they somehow "deserve" the product for free, this is also a crock-o-*****. Also because the "kids" aren't the primary audience for the product that gives them the right to steal it - again a crock-o-*****."
*sigh... Maybe salaries go DOWN because inferior products are frequently released to the masses requiring the download of PATCH before one can even install and USE the product. There are way to many games and other software out there where the PATCH is released before the product.
Salary going down? How about you make a program that doesn't have to be patched straight out of the box, then maybe you'll receive that raise you've been brown nosing so hard to get. - einsteindesign, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Honestly, how is a amatuer STUDENT flash artist supposed to afford that?"
Academic license, anyone?
"Ill stop pirating software like this when they sell it for a price that is reasonable...like $50. If a game is 3gb and is $50 why does decent software thats 200mb have to be $500?"
It's called "return on investment". You spend $6 million developing a game that will sell 750,000 copies you can make a tasty profit at $50 per unit. You spend $6 million developing something that ships 50,000 units and it's not so bright and sunny. The profit has to cover marketing expenses, tech support, piracy losses, and FUTURE DEVELOPMENT of the product. So of *course* it's going to retail for $200-500.
Bottom line, it's not OK to steal just because you don't agree with the price. If you feel that strongly, why dont you try stealing a boxed copy of some $500 app from BestBuy or wherever? Since the developer shouldn't be paid, why not screw the big storre retailers too! Right?
BOZOS. Rationalization != justification. Retail pricing != entitlement. - dirtyword, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Globilization is not a crock of *****. You're wrong.
- JRMillion, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Software may be overpriced, but comparing the price to a game is about the dumbest possible comparison. Software should not be priced per MB :)
- pinsomniac, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I'm not going to comment on the piracy debate, but will say this RE: "My university computer store sells Studio 8 for $300, which is VERY reasonable considering the amount of money you can make in freelancing (if you're good, that is)."
True, but you should be careful. Academic licenses are only valid for non-commercial purposes. You'll have to pay full price if you plan to freelance with it; otherwise, you're still technically using the program illegally. - CoolHandLuke, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@Piggins
I never said I was talking about operating systems. - dbr_onix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0None of these companys audiences are the people who download it.. Most of the time people download software because they can't afford it, or wouldn't have bought it in the first place.
A large webdesign companys (Marcomedias main target), is *not* going to download it illegaly.. Anyone who's using the software for a buisness is going to buy it. And the "kids", who download this, become good at webdesign (or in my case, programming), may well go on to become professional web designers, and have to buy the super-shiney-enterprise version of Studio 8 (Just realised, "Pinnacle Studio 8"/9, but oh well)
Mostly people steal due to need, and the ones that steal for no reason are idiots, and idiots dont need webdesign software :P
- Ben - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0So where are the links to the keygens?
- changita, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I haven't been able to find any serials for 8. Anyone else?
- esourcemag, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0how come no one ever talks about Director from Marcomedia???
- igeo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The tabs rocks..... Command and Tilde is the shortcut to switch between them in case you care....
- dorkstyle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Finally! Tabs on OS X!!
- madmax187, on 05/06/2008, -0/+0***** ADOBE GREEDY SALTY RICHY BIGGOTS WHO ONLY EXIST FOR THEIR FINNANCIAL GAIN, BACK IN THE DAY EVERYTHING ON THE INTERNET WAS FREE. THEN THE RICHY ***** MOVED IN AND DECIDED LET'S RAISE PRICES, LET'S MAKE IT SO ONLY 90210 RICHYS WHO LIVE IN ***** BEVERLY HILLS CAN AFFORD IT! WHEN IT COMES TO THE INTERNET I STILL DONT PAY ***** NEVER HAVE NEVER WILL I THINK THAT EACH SIDE ON THIS ARGUEMENT HAS GOOD POINTS BUT SOME OF YOU GUYS JUST SOUND LIKE RAGING RETARDS DEFENDING CORPERATE *****!
- Piggins, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@kiro
HAHA yeah I know, there I go again - espresso does this to me :) - igeo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Curious what people are using out there. GoLive CS2 or Dreamweaver 8?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Piracy? Psh, if the program does not offer all versions in a trial, I'll crack it. If I like, I'll buy it. If not, I won't even consider it. Simple as that. We don't need flame wars.
- kyrobeshay, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Haha, there Piggins goes again. And by the way, saying that Macromedia makes money off the professionals and not the kids does not imply in ANY way whatsoever that it's ok for the kids to steal. I mean, i pirate software all the time, but i'm not saying it's the right thing to do, yes, i am at fault.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0hmmmmm interesting
http://www.bogeydope.com
-mrglass -
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