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- jrm125, on 07/08/2009, -1/+23Say what you want about it, 3.1 made things easier on a lot of folks. Still....part of me misses DOS.
- falafelkiosken, on 07/08/2009, -5/+19no NeXTSTEP?
- jrm125, on 07/08/2009, -0/+13Nah, there were actually a bunch of handy things you could do quickly and easily through command line switches, etc. And all you had to do was type. No searching around.
Granted, you had to LEARN those commands, but once you knew them you could really breeze around. - manitoba98xp, on 07/08/2009, -1/+14It has. In fact, it gets a Ribbon UI in Windows 7.
- dougm68, on 07/08/2009, -0/+12The Amiga was way ahead of Windows and MAC of the period of time they were all three viable choices. If Commodore could have made significant advertising campaigns, the computer landscape would be a lot different today. The Amiga ads back then really sucked for such a good pc.
- doctechnical, on 07/08/2009, -1/+12A Windows advocate once asked me to name one thing that was easier to do from the DOS prompt than from the Windows interface. I immediately answered "Concatenate two files into one. COPY FOO/b+BAR/b FOOBAR" Good luck doing that in Windows without a 3rd party app.
- kidcodea, on 07/08/2009, -1/+11AMIGA OS
intuition
true multitasking
multimedia
a milestone in personal computing - sneakyness, on 07/08/2009, -1/+8I always thought renaming files (mv file.omg file.wtf), moving an entire folder's contents (mv * /differentspot) were always much easier/faster than clicking around.
- Myztry, on 07/08/2009, -2/+9If you look back to what the Amiga was doing 24 years ago, Windows set computing back immeasurabily. Not just by taking a further decade to gain base Amiga features like pre-emptive multitasking, message based architecture, multi-screen rendering, [Amiga] super keys - but by making software dependent on systems lacking any real fundamental design.
The Amiga was the whole package. It wasn't just a GUI over someone elses hacked OS. Everything about the Amiga was ground breaking and custom built for a revolutionary purpose. Multi-tasking GUI OS's didn't exist so they created one. GPU's didn't exist so they built the Blitter chipset. Multi-media sound didn't exist so they built multi-channel stereo sample chipsets. Decent modern disc storage didn't exist so they put 880k on 720k 3.5inch drives while providing usable 32 character cased hierarchical file-systems. Mouse with a menu button. And it just goes on and on.
Microsoft sued Apple. Apple sued Commodore. They didn't sue Commodore over the Amiga. Jay Miner provided them with a design that was just too far advanced to be anything but laughed out of court.
It's not like Microsoft weren't aware of the Amiga. You can be bloody sure that while writing the Amiga Basic they had a ***** huge notebook sitting there for things that would become 'future research'... - doctechnical, on 07/08/2009, -0/+7Lotus 1-2-3 put a whole lot of computers on a whole lot of desks (see also "killer app") but from my memory it was more because it allowed middle managers to figure out their quarterly department budgets in hours instead of days.
/remembers "load-us" fondly - MacParrot, on 07/08/2009, -0/+5The Amiga OS WAS some amazing software. Far advanced from anything that either Apple or Microsoft had. It's a shame that Commodore's management was so incompetent that they managed to destroy the company in such a small amount of time.
- SwampyUK, on 07/08/2009, -0/+5I believe it was:
copy /b file1+file2 file3
Just tried it in XP and it still works :) - insertAliasHere, on 07/08/2009, -0/+5Paint made a big change from Win3.1 to Win95. Then, it stayed pretty much the same all the way to Windows 7.
- amitait, on 07/08/2009, -0/+5Print Version, all in one page:
http://www.maximumpc.com/print/6909 - sneakyness, on 07/08/2009, -4/+9NeXTSTEP is the *****, and got the ball rolling for my favorite language, Objective-C. All those NS's, yeah, they stand for NeXTSTEP, although technically It's OpenStep now.
- kenelbow, on 07/08/2009, -0/+4Back in the mid 90's I lived in Champaign, IL and my next door neighbor was none other than Bruce Artwick, the man who wrote and sold the Flight Simulator to Microsoft. Being a teenage kid at the time I had no idea what a huge contribution he made to software programming. Looking back its strange that he picked that city and neighborhood to live in after having cashed in on the success of his company. Next to my parent's $200,000 home was his giant house with a 6 car garage and an indoor swimming pool. I loved going over and hanging out with his step kids though. They had all the coolest toys.
- insertAliasHere, on 07/08/2009, -0/+4You're half right. The System/360 was the hardware, OS/360 was the operating system that it ran on.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_System/360#Operat ... - codereview, on 07/08/2009, -0/+4@Myztry:
very much agreed
@jrm125:
I felt the same way when I moved away from DOS to Windows.
Then to Linux and after a few days of Bash, you don't want to go back to either ;) - sneakyness, on 07/08/2009, -6/+10at what point did you think this comment would be a good idea?
Nobody cares about Crysis. - Myztry, on 07/08/2009, -0/+4The Amiga CLI was beautiful with pipelining to any device and wildcards.
1. The command were just standard programs. There was no difference between a CLI command and GUI program (except one chose not to create windows). Every program could accept args from either the CLI or the GUI. They enumerated the same.
2. Pipeline could be done to any device so instead of typing MORE/CAT/whatever you could "COPY ANYDEVICE:dir/file CON:width/height" and a console window would be created displaying the text.
3. Wildcards could be complex with ? for a single char replace, * for any length replace (even between other wildcards) and # for a numerical replace.
Oh, and there was no DOS screen as such. Everything was graphical and they did away with character mapped displays all together. - MattBD, on 07/08/2009, -0/+4You can always use FreeDOS. Although I find DOS really creaky compared to Unix shells.
- Myztry, on 07/08/2009, -2/+6The 1985 Amiga was a multitasking OO design. Don't get too excited...
- MacParrot, on 07/08/2009, -0/+4My brother-in-law had a Lisa. That was my first experience with a GUI. My actual first computer was an OLD Mac Plus running System 6.04 in 1987. Considering it was a 68K running at a blazing 7.8MHz, it was quite amazing.
My actual first experience with a computer was a Digital Vax 11/750 (I think that was the model) - Phrea, on 07/08/2009, -0/+4MS bought QDOS for $50.000, not $75.000.
- GeorgeStone2, on 07/08/2009, -1/+4@Merky1
I disagree. The people that aren't looking under the covers generally wouldn't be doing so anyway.
They would learn the commands they needed to use and that would be that. - evil-doer, on 07/08/2009, -2/+5nice title.
not only did you lop off the IB of IBM but there was no software called IBM OS/360. it was called IBM System/360. or S/360 for short. - FearlessFreep, on 07/08/2009, -0/+3It also shows an X Window display, which really isn't Unix per-se (although you could argue that X belongs on that list as well)
- Nairebis, on 07/08/2009, -2/+5Load notepad. Alt-F o file1. ^A ^C Alt-F o file2. ^V Alt F s file3.
Though, I can't actually remember the last time I've wanted to concatenate two files. That's a pretty useless operation. There are other shell operations that are better examples. - jejones, on 07/08/2009, -1/+4Feh. The Burroughs B5000 predated the 360 by three years. It and its successors were stack machines designed to run programs written in an extended version of Algol 60 that supported multithreading and coroutines--and long before Unix, its operating system was written in a high level language. Its job control language evolved from a simple set of commands into Work Flow Language, a high-level language on a par with the Bourne shell.
- mrBitch, on 07/08/2009, -0/+3Speaking of NeXT, what's with the "macbook" label on the "UNIX circa 1969" screenshot of an X window display?
http://dl.maximumpc.com/galleries/classicsoftware/ ... - SamSks, on 07/08/2009, -0/+3It has been said that VisiCalc and its clone Lotus 1-2-3 sparked the LBO boom in the 80s because the corporate raiders could model the companies books and get a relatively accurate idea of how to make the deal profitable.
- Myztry, on 07/08/2009, -0/+2$25k for the original license then a further $50k for the remaining rights.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/86-DOS - DamonToo, on 07/08/2009, -1/+3Long live my Tandy 386!
- rac1234, on 07/08/2009, -0/+2I remember Macs seeming pretty cool long before System 7.
- compgeek, on 07/08/2009, -0/+2dugg for Wolfenstein 3D. Good times with that game when I was younger. I can still fondly remember playing it on my old 286 although it barely ran and I needed to hack it to get it running. Figured out how to get it running at age 9 though so I guess in some ways it was not only my first experience with games but also with hacking as well.
- martalli, on 07/09/2009, -1/+3Good Lord, the NeXT computers were so expensive that no one was really going to consider them for typical office or home usage.
- MrZaiko, on 07/08/2009, -2/+4MS Paint has never changed since
- insertAliasHere, on 07/08/2009, -0/+1It's been able to do that for a while now.
- macromorgan, on 07/08/2009, -3/+4Ahh yes, I remember fondly my old 68k Mac running System 7. That was back before it was cool to have a Mac.
Dialing up the internet with a telnet session through ClarisWorks to download the latest plugins for Escape Velocity.
/nostalgia - Myztry, on 07/08/2009, -2/+3Microsoft still doesn't have Intuition. Windows has a frame manager incapable of managing Windows intuitively. Having to catch wm_paint messages in order to implement the window invalidation redraws yourself is just lame.
The Window manager is supposed to manage the windows. Handle redirecting rendering to front/back buffers except in compositing rendering. Bill Gates was a ***** moron when it came to technical aspects, and he got to play leader to an industry. It's just so wrong, and no the application pool in contaminated with software bending to his technical stupidity. - wolfing, on 07/08/2009, -0/+1that must be the enhanced DOS versions :) I remember doing that like 'type FOO + BAR > FOOBAR' or something like that
- mrBitch, on 07/08/2009, -0/+1Yes, even all the way back then in 1981, Microsoft's first big product was something they bought from someone else... FTA :
" .. Enter Bill Gates and the young Microsoft Corporation. Through family contacts Gates had learned about the pending PC and offered an Operating system for it.
This OS, as it turns out, was one he had to purchase from a small outfit called Seattle Computer Products. Microsoft renamed their QDOS (Quick and Dirty Operating System) to MS-DOS and licensed it to IBM (who called it, unsurprisingly, PC-DOS) while retaining the right to market it to others." - antdude, on 07/08/2009, -0/+11 print page (will prompt a print dialog box): http://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2009/07/07/Poll-Sexy-r ...
- ratsg, on 07/09/2009, -0/+1Its always been cool to have a Mac.
- doctechnical, on 07/08/2009, -0/+1for %a in (foo*.uue) do copy totalfoo+%a totalfoo
Back in the day before sophisticated usenet programs, that was the bee's knees.
/obligatory oldfart "Get off my lawn!" - sproket, on 07/08/2009, -0/+1Yeah but can it save anything other than BMPs unless you also have office installed?
- doctechnical, on 07/08/2009, -4/+4Yes, at the command prompt :) As has been pointed out, there are a number of ways to skin this cat, but they all are done at the command prompt without GUI. That was my point.
- Lanttu42, on 07/08/2009, -1/+1Now you done it. Forced me to join digg and stop trolling. ;) Yes. You can join ascii files with notepad. You can join ascii files with almost anything that you can imagine. But, did you noticed that /b parameter and do you have any ideas what it does? Try notepading three zip files that was used to be on flobbies and make it to one working zip file.
- Nebarik, on 07/08/2009, -2/+2why are people burying you? the image DOES say macbook
- BlackSheep882, on 07/08/2009, -2/+2I care about Crysis
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